Scientific Theory vs Facts.

[جوري]

^^ glad someone knows how the null hypothesis works for a change!

peace

 

[barney]

Arr!
We theorise that their is a force that pulls the ball down, we theorise that it is due to the amount of cheesecake sold in Quiksave in Corby on Friday nights.
we take a ball drop it on a friday night and compare it to Quicksaves sales records.
The ball dropped at 1m/s.
Next friday we repeat the experiment. The ball drops at 1m/s and the cheesecake sales have slumped. We repeat several times and we can now discard the cheesecake/fall rate corelation.

 

[fsmdude]

 

[جوري]

LOL-- that was deep.. love that atheist wonted candor-- I can tell much intellections went into that schematic diagram...

cheers

 

[Abdul Fattah]

Nice try, but really shows that whoever made this chart has absolutely no idea what faith means and why people believe. How about this chart:

BTW, no evidence has been found so far that rejects faith...
I guess I pwnd you with that one and accept your apologies... ^_^

 

[fsmdude]

Abdul Fattah : Hahahahaha!!! Your «reply» is so going in the Richard Dawkins forum! If, as you say, that's a «muslim pwnage», well, :exhausted hahaha

1: «Faith be improved to fit the evidence». WTF? Dude, faith is, by definition, exempt of facts and evidence. Facts and evidence are what make the difference between knowledge and faith. Knowledge= facts, faith=doesn't give a **** about facts.

2: «Use faith to better understand the universe» Faith is used to understand your universe, the one in your head. It has nothing to do with reality (real reality, not the one you made up in your head).

3: «Reject faith»: never seen someone do that. Faith cannot be rejected (except if you think criticaly), because it's based on nothing (absence of facts). If someone has faith than the earth is plane, no matter what evidence you show him (pictures, mathematical explanation), he'll just say: That's my faith and I believe it. Everything you showed me was made by the devil, trying to turn me away from god.

«BTW, no evidence has been found so far that rejects faith...»: Err, yes. Homeopathy, reflexology, religion (Adam and Eve, impossible stuff. It's genetically impossible to start with only 2 individuals. But when you say that to the religious nuts, they say the same thing than the plane earth guy.

 

[fsmdude]

I always find funny when religious people try to prove their faith with facts, whitout realising that they're destroying it. It's, like, a self-destruction. You don't need an atheist or an agnostic to get a religious personn pwed, they can do the job by themself.

 

[جوري]

I love the 'wahahaha's' of an atheist who could barely put a grammatic/ sensical conviction together, yet has such a grip on every scientific discipline!

Sob7an Allah.. but I suppose there is where one comes for their daily comic relief!

 

[fsmdude]

«I love the 'wahahaha's' of an atheist who could barely put a grammatic/ sensical conviction together, yet has such a grip on every scientific discipline!»

Ben tu m'en reparlera quand ta langue natale sera le français, mon grand. Et non, j'avoue que je ne maîtrise pas toutes les disciplines scientifiques (et j'ai jamais dit ca).

 

[جوري]

Ben tu m'en reparlera quand ta langue natale sera le français, mon grand. Et non, j'avoue que je ne maîtrise pas toutes les disciplines scientifiques (et j'ai jamais dit ca).

al'3iloom layes laha 3ilawa bilogha, wa'daleel 3la zhalik katheraan min al'senyoon wa'yabanyoon, la yath7adathou ay lougha ajnabyea be'labawa wa ma3a zhalik ajado fi'il3iloom wa naj7ao be'tawfoq fi teb, wal'handasa. Na3am a3raf anaka la toujeed ay 3ilm wa'lakana tat7adath be' alsentihim. izh kan alkalam min fidaha fa'sikoot min zha'hab!

J'éspére que cela aide!

cheers shmo

 

[Trumble]

How about this chart:

I AM a religious person, if not a theist. However for some reason I find

"can the faith be improved to fit the new evidence"

very worrying. It just seems to be a ticket for corrupting whatever faith it happens to be in order to 'fit' the new evidence, the most visible manifestations I can think of being the constant outbreaks of Qur'anic sciento-gibberish from Harun Yahya and the like. Although I will admit my own religion isn't immune either, with 'parallels' to quantum physics and such. Most Buddhists, though, think it a complete waste of time, and wisely so IMHO. The Buddha knew nothing about quantum physics and certainly wasn't talking about or describing it.

 

[Abdul Fattah]

Abdul Fattah : Hahahahaha!!! Your «reply» is so going in the Richard Dawkins forum! If, as you say, that's a «muslim pwnage», well, :exhausted hahaha

1: «Faith be improved to fit the evidence». WTF? Dude, faith is, by definition, exempt of facts and evidence. Facts and evidence are what make the difference between knowledge and faith. Knowledge= facts, faith=doesn't give a **** about facts.

2: «Use faith to better understand the universe» Faith is used to understand your universe, the one in your head. It has nothing to do with reality (real reality, not the one you made up in your head).

3: «Reject faith»: never seen someone do that. Faith cannot be rejected (except if you think criticaly), because it's based on nothing (absence of facts). If someone has faith than the earth is plane, no matter what evidence you show him (pictures, mathematical explanation), he'll just say: That's my faith and I believe it. Everything you showed me was made by the devil, trying to turn me away from god.

«BTW, no evidence has been found so far that rejects faith...»: Err, yes. Homeopathy, reflexology, religion (Adam and Eve, impossible stuff. It's genetically impossible to start with only 2 individuals. But when you say that to the religious nuts, they say the same thing than the plane earth guy.

I never said my faith was scientific or proven, I'm just saying you're representation is gravely inaccurate. If you come here to mock people I suggest you leave as quickly as you came. We have no need for stuck up self righteous know it alls. And if you think that you as an atheist is going to explain me, a theist what faith you're really mistaken. Congrats, you're the first person ever on this forum that I'm going to add to my ignore list.

 

[Abdul Fattah]

I AM a religious person, if not a theist. However for some reason I find

very worrying. It just seems to be a ticket for corrupting whatever faith it happens to be in order to 'fit' the new evidence, the most visible manifestations I can think of being the constant outbreaks of Qur'anic sciento-gibberish from Harun Yahya and the like. Although I will admit my own religion isn't immune either, with 'parallels' to quantum physics and such. Most Buddhists, though, think it a complete waste of time, and wisely so IMHO. The Buddha knew nothing about quantum physics and certainly wasn't talking about or describing it.

Yeah perhaps I shouldn't have put "improve" but rather specify...