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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_w-YWwC1lI

Nice explaination of how nutty scientology is.
It still holds excactly the same credence as any other religion though.

He is however the first Prophet to benifit from Antipsychotic Drugs. Shame those hadnt been invented thousands of years ago.

Also, whilst you are swapping tinfoil hats about ..this one has me in stitches.
http://www.truthism.com/
 
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Greetings,
Keltoi said:
My only question about scientology would be why so many Hollywood actors and wealthy individuals seem to be drawn to it.
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Scientology explicitly aims to recruit celebrities to its ranks in order to give itself public appeal. Numerous 'Celebrity Centres' around the world were set up for this purpose.

The celebrities get treated far better than the average joe joining the organisation, and they are largely unaware of the hard sell and psychological manipulation that ordinary adherents are put through.

Here is an amazing BBC documentary about Scientology. The reporter totally loses it towards the end after being subjected to a fair amount of harassment from the Church. It's fascinating.

Peace
 
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I try to be open-minded, but Scientology is the only "religion" I can honestly say adherents (those who know the 'upper levels') are morons....or master manipulators.

Woodrow, I dont understand how this is a ploy by atheists and agnostics. For any who know the mythology behind it, or the quotes/history of L. Ron Hubbard and his associates, Scientology is really just a cheap rip-off if Buddhism with terrible, I mean GOD AWFUL mythos (ie. Earth existing for 14billion yrs and life being on it, Xenu, etc.)

Its really nothing more than a ploy for tax breaks.
 
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Isambard said:
I try to be open-minded, but Scientology is the only "religion" I can honestly say adherents (those who know the 'upper levels') are morons....or master manipulators.

Woodrow, I dont understand how this is a ploy by atheists and agnostics. For any who know the mythology behind it, or the quotes/history of L. Ron Hubbard and his associates, Scientology is really just a cheap rip-off if Buddhism with terrible, I mean GOD AWFUL mythos (ie. Earth existing for 14billion yrs and life being on it, Xenu, etc.)

Its really nothing more than a ploy for tax breaks.
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I should have specified that it is a ploy for some athiests and some agnostics. The reason I say Athiests and Agnostics is because I can not see how it would have any attraction for any one who believes in a Religion.

It is simply a utilization of existing tax laws.
 
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Woodrow said:
I should have specified that it is a ploy for some athiests and some agnostics. The reason I say Athiests and Agnostics is because I can not see how it would have any attraction for any one who believes in a Religion.

It is simply a utilization of existing tax laws.
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As I said, it steals from Buddhism quite a bit then renames the concepts, then claims itself brilliant and original. So those ignorant of the Eastern philosophies it would hold some appeal.

I agree with you that it is a ploy for tax evasion, but its goes agaisnt the spirit of free-speech that many atheists/agnostics hold so dear by creating blocks agaisnt those who speak out agaisnt it (much more effectively than Islamic radicals).

Besides, there are already psedo-religions with which regular non-theists can free themselve from taxes. Ie. Satanism

Scientology is a different entity all together
 
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Scientology I always found that quit intresting. I guess the people who actuall practice it don't believe in a higher power they just believe in life its self. The man who created this religion is an American author named L. Ron Hubbard. He believed that his relgion is an "applied religious philosophy", but they don't believe in the existence of aliens and aliens creating the earth. Most of them go buy Darwins theory. They believe more in what they call "The Three Parts of Man" which are Mind, Body, and Spirit.
 
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Isambard said:
As I said, it steals from Buddhism quite a bit then renames the concepts, then claims itself brilliant and original. So those ignorant of the Eastern philosophies it would hold some appeal.

I agree with you that it is a ploy for tax evasion, but its goes against the spirit of free-speech that many atheists/agnostics hold so dear by creating blocks against those who speak out against it (much more effectively than Islamic radicals).

Besides, there are already psedo-religions with which regular non-theists can free themselve from taxes. Ie. Satanism

Scientology is a different entity all together
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i would say many if not most religions borrow or are influenced by other religions or stories.
 
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ranma1/2 said:
i would say many if not most religions borrow or are influenced by other religions or stories.
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Conclusion: There is an original true religion, that those in error are trying to copy.
 
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ranma1/2 said:
no thats not the conclusion.

some religions maybe original but be no more true.
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Relax, That was slightly tongue in cheek. I could not resist the temptation of saying that to you. I was just trying to show that statements do not always elicit the desired response and it is easy for all of us to be misunderstood.

Although I do believe Islam is the original true Religion, I am aware that some, probably many other religions do appear to have started based on other criteria. I do agree that many of todays religions have copied and modified previously existing religions. Scientology appears to be an example of this, copy something existing and modify it to suit a modern purpose.
 
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No, originally they all started from the same criteria. A search for some sort of meaning to human existence beyond the daily struggle just to survive, and as a means of explaining otherwise inexplainable phenomena.

At least, that is, until some people figured out that religion could be a powerful tool for some or all of making money, obtaining and keeping power over others, and guiding people to behave in the way particular individuals thought they should behave.
 
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Getting back to Tom Cruise's religion...

:p

But seriously, I don't know enough about it to make a judgement either way. It thus would be unfair and ignorant of me to buy into all the anti-Scientology hype.
 
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I just remembered an episode of South Park..

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Greetings,
Shukri said:
they don't believe in the existence of aliens and aliens creating the earth.
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Aliens are a crucial part of the belief system of Scientology. However, their teachings on this subject are kept secret until a member has reached the OTIII level. For this reason, junior Scientologists are unaware of it.

Here is a site that explains this. It's very obviously anti-Scientology, but the evidence is pretty clear.

Peace
 
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There also several quotes from Mr. Hubbard about creating a religion for money and how ppl are willful idiots. He claimed he never said of this when it took hold.

Atheists may argue that religions of today have things that clearly refute the religion, but lets face it. It doesnt compare to scientology where you have literally, him saying its a joke.
 
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It does not appear that any members are Scientologists. This does border on back-biting for us to speak of something without anyone present to represent scientology.

Possibly we all disagree with what Scientologists believe. But in fairness this accomplishes nothing and only shows our opinion.
 
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