Secularization among Dutch Muslims

[GuestFellow]

Greetings,

I think this is excellent news.

Less religion equals less opportunity for conflict. I'm not aware of any exceptions to that rule.

Peace

Greetings,

I doubt it. Even if there was no religion in the world there will still be conflict. People will always find something to complain about. I'm curious what types of conflict are you referring to? I get a feeling people put all the blame of today’s world problems on religion.

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

Greetings,

I doubt it. Even if there was no religion in the world there will still be conflict.

I agree. If you read my post again, you'll see that it doesn't actually contradict what you've said here.

People will always find something to complain about. I'm curious what types of conflict are you referring to? I get a feeling people put all the blame of today’s world problems on religion.

To do so would definitely be wrong. Human failings are all too obvious.

One conflict I'm referring to would be the never-ending Israel-Palestine dispute. Was it entirely caused by religion? No. However, I'm convinced that religion is one of the main things that makes it so difficult to end. When people are certain that god is on their side, no rational argument can convince them otherwise. And so it continues.

Take religion out of the equation, and it would be far easier to solve.

Placing the holiest sites of the three largest monotheistic religions within a few hundred miles of each other also shows a remarkable lack of foresight by the creator, but that's another issue.

Peace

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Placing the holiest sites of the three largest monotheistic religions within a few hundred miles of each other also shows a remarkable lack of foresight by the creator, but that's another issue.

Peace

Nah we humans are too stingy. We give people the opportunity for others to ridicule God, when it is but us with the shortcomings. I see it more for unity purposes..the fact that we have something in common...

 

[Bittersteel]

Less religion equals less opportunity for conflict. I'm not aware of any exceptions to that rule.

Coming this from someone like you,it is very disappointing.
I fail to find the rationality in your statement or that of the thread starter.Why blame religion when people are to blame?
and besides when you provoke someone isn't it natural to get a response?After all it was an European,a British in fact,who stated "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

 

[Zone Maker]

It is a known fact that land, resource, etc are the main causes of war.
When I read the post that says "religion causes conflict" it reminds of a joke that says:
(How many eggs does a rooster lay?)

 

[GuestFellow]

Greetings,

One conflict I'm referring to would be the never-ending Israel-Palestine dispute. Was it entirely caused by religion? No. However, I'm convinced that religion is one of the main things that makes it so difficult to end. When people are certain that god is on their side, no rational argument can convince them otherwise. And so it continues.

Take religion out of the equation, and it would be far easier to solve.

Placing the holiest sites of the three largest monotheistic religions within a few hundred miles of each other also shows a remarkable lack of foresight by the creator, but that's another issue.

Peace

I disagree to some extent. I read this book: Teach Yourself the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

ISBN-10: 0340943254

It is mostly political orientated. I would avoid listening to the media since it never did portrays the true aspect of this conflict from both sides. Muslims, Jews and Christians lived very peacefully in Palestine...

Besides the problem the world face are not religious based at all. Poverty, corruption, global warming and the energy crisis. These problems even without religion shall still exist.

Forget about fighting over land. Just worry about looking after the environment otherwise we will have nothing to fight for. =/

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

I disagree to some extent. I read this book: Teach Yourself the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

ISBN-10: 0340943254

It is mostly political orientated. I would avoid listening to the media since it never did portrays the true aspect of this conflict from both sides. Muslims, Jews and Christians lived very peacefully in Palestine...

Besides the problem the world face are not religious based at all. Poverty, corruption, global warming and the energy crisis. These problems even without religion shall still exist.

Forget about fighting over land. Just worry about looking after the environment otherwise we will have nothing to fight for. =/

Here's something I wrote about one of your previous responses to a post of mine:

I agree. If you read my post again, you'll see that it doesn't actually contradict what you've said here.

The same applies here.

Peace

 

[GuestFellow]

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I'm simply stating that religion is not the direct cause of conflicts. Just simply used as a motivational factor. Just like nationalism. People just use nationalism to justify war and brutality.

People will find other ways of justifying war and conflicts.

 

[Karl]

Greetings,

I think this is excellent news.

Less religion equals less opportunity for conflict. I'm not aware of any exceptions to that rule.

Peace

Less religion equals more communism, socialism, feminism and all other nasty isms imsad