Shahaadah in English

[Abdullaah]

First of all this is not a simple topic, this is about tawheed which is the foundation of al islam the whole religion.
secondly, I have asked the admin staff to censure this forum and exercise their right to ban argumentative non muslims on this forum and even those who come up with bidah kufr and open fusuq to save the minds and hearts of the muslims particularly new muslims who are to be found in this forum. If you neglect this duty be prepared for your standing before Allaah as a person who was responsible for this forum and exposing muslims or potential muslims with the false arguments of individuals who are inclined on trying to extinguish the light of Allaah with their mouths or in this case with their fingers and keyboards. Otherwise fear Allaah and give up this role and shut up shop but its better to exercise more responsibility banning those who are coming here with open fusuq debates/arguments meant to hide the truth and make people doubt. ban them for there is no freedom of speech for a kafir or munafiq or person of bidah who comes here to spread error. Finally, any person who believes that there is a diety besides Allaah or a god besides Allaah is a mushrik out of the fold of islam. This is proven by the ayah in surah Al anaam and the entire Quran if you would read and understand.
Sahih International
Say, "What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, " Allah is witness between me and you. And this Qur'an was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches. Do you [truly] testify that with Allah there are other deities?" Say, "I will not testify [with you]." Say, "Indeed, He is but one God, and indeed, I am free of what you associate [with Him]."

however, if you were to say there are false dieties that is correct because they are FALSE dieties meaning there are not dieties in reality. So we dont believe there is a diety or a GOD except ALLAH( who is the Lord of All creation and is one and only). Whatever others falsely worship are not dieties they are for example a stone or stones, trees, humans etc. And finally, when the Quran explicitly tells you and is clear on an issue we dont refer to sheikh hebel. I add to this point, muwahid I also gave you another ayah in surah al nahl before refuting your misled claims about there being another god but you seem to think that there are other gods such as budha so the evidence is clear on this subject and I advise the admin to ban muwahid if he is inclined to still reject the truth and is spreading lies and error in this forum and all whose debates and arguments are false and repetitive even in the face of clarifications.

 

[Muwaahid]

Bismillah​

As-Salaamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuhu here is a quick translation of the Arabic Text I originally pointed out and I hope that Allah blesses this translation and that He makes it evidently clear to everyone! Allahumma Ameen

Meaning of the Shahaadatayn [the two testifications]:
Meaning of Shahaadah: An Laa Ilaaha illa Allah [There is no deity possessing the sole right to be WORSHIPPED truthfully and by right except Allah. It is the creed [Al-Ittiqaad] and belief [Al-Iqraar] that verily none possesses the sole right [yustahiqqu] to be worshipped except Allah, and holding fast to that and to work [righteous deeds] according to it [sincerely for Allah's sake]. So Laa Ilaaha is negating the Istihqaaq [the Right] to be worshipped from everything/everyone besides Allah no matter who they are. And illa Allah is Ithbaat [affirming] that right of worship soley for Allah Alone. [My note:notice how the shaykh mentions Ibaadah And the meaning of these words collectively are: Laa Ma3booda Bi Haqqin Illa Allah There is no object of worship possessing the sole right to be worshipped except Allah And the khabr [laa] necessitates or obligates the implied word [Bi Haqqin] By Right or in Truth And it is not permissible to imply bi-mawjood [in existence] and that is because it opposes what has occurred. so those ma3boodaat [things that are worshipped(deities)] other than Allah are in existence abundatly so from it necessitates that the worship of these things is worship of Allah, and this is the most false of faslehoods and it is the Madhhab [ belief] of the people of Wihdatul Wujood [belief that everything in existence is an expression of Allah so no matter who or what you worship, you will still be worshipping Allah] those who are the most disbelieving of people on earth. And these words have been explained with two corrupt explanations and they are:

A. That the meaning of it is [i.e. laa ilaaha illa Allah]: Laa Ma3booda illa Allah [there is no object of worship except Allah] [My note: This is your saying There is no god but Allah] And this is false [baatil] and that is because the meaning: that every thing that is worshipped truthfully or falsely is Allah, just as was explained previously.

B. That the meaning of it is:There is no Creator except Allah. And this is a part of the meaning of these words, but this is not what is Maqsood[intended or desired] and that is because it doesn't affirm anything except Ruboobiyyah [Lordship] and it is not sufficient and it is the Tawheed of the Mushrikeen.

C. That the meaning of it is: Laa Haakimiyyah illa Allah [There is no rule or ruling except Allah's Ruling or Judgments] And this as well is a part of the meaning [of laa ilaaha illa Allah] but it is not what is Maqsood [intended or desired] and tha is because it is not suffcient, and that is because if one were to single out Allah alone in Haakimiyyah ONLY and made dua [supplication] to other than Allah or did any act of worship whatsoever for other than Him then he would not be considered a Muwaahid [one who establishes all acts of Ibaadah for Allah alone] and all of the aforementioned explanations are false or defficient, and this is ONLY what we wanted to bring to your attenion because verily you will find it in some of the books in circulation.

AND THE CORRECT AND AUTHENTIC MEANING OF THESE WORDS WITH THE SALAF AND THE MUHAQQIQEEN ARE:

Is that you say: Laa Ma3booda BI-Haqqin illa Allah There is no deity who possesses the sole right to be worshipped in truth and by right except Allah. Kama sabaq [just as what has been preceeded.

My words: So a persons Shahaadah is not complete until they apply the Nafee [negation] and Ithbaat [affirmation]. Deny any other deity that the people have taken as gods/lords besides Allah in worship and to affirm that right of worship solely to Allah alone. Please note that the Shaykh mentioned Ibaadah throughout this whole discussion. And that is the Tawheed that we were created for as I mentioned in some of the previous post. All the prophets and messengers came with Tawheed completely, Tawheedul Ruboobiyyah and Tawheedul Uboodiyyah/Uloohiyyah and Tawheedul Asmaa'i was Sifaat. But in general they all came is Tawheedul Uboodiyyah meaning to single out Allah alone for all aspects of worship. And when I mentioned what was the first order in the Qur'aan? I meant in the Mushaf where Allah says:

"O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous "
2:21​

Insha Allah I hope this clarifies the issue. Wa Billahit-Tawfeeq

 

[~Zaria~]

to say that "there is NO god but Allah" is not a true statement, for there are many gods besides Allah!

Allat and Uzza and Yaghooth wa Ya'ooq and Nasraa, and Jesus the son of Mary, Buddah, Uzair, other idols and images, graves, tombs, desires, monks and righteous people are considered Aaliha [gods] but the determining distinction is understood in light of understanding what the true shahadah means.

.......

So we should never explain the shahadah as there is no god but Allah because there are many gods besides Allaah but...but...but... they are not worthy of being in worshipped.

Assalamu-alaikum,

Akhee, it may not be your intention in mentioning that: 'there are many gods besides Allah', (which has been done repeatedly in this thread), but please realise that this statement in itself is shirk, and has the ability of creating confusion amongst our non-muslim viewers.


This does not form part of Tawheed.

Allah (subhanawataa'la) says in Surat Ikhlaas:

قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ - اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ - لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ - وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَّهُ كُفُواً أَحَدٌ

Say: "He is Allah, One.
Allah, He begets not, nor was He begotten.
And there is non comparable to Him.''

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This surah was revealed because people were worshipping things other than Allah or associating partners to Him.

The above quoted statements affirm the existence of these idols/ partners as actual deities.......which is untrue.

These were false deities, and have no right to be even called 'gods besides Allah'.

Allah is ONE.



To say that: "There is no god but Allah" is absolutely true <---- There is nothing truer than this: there IS NO God, but Allah.
How can this be considered shirk?

In the same way, to say: "There is none worthy of worship except Allah" ,is also true.

At the end of the day, it is our intention when saying the shahada that matters.


And Allah (subhanawatáala) knows best.


:wa:

 

[Mustafa2012]

I agree with what you have said and there is no objection against that.
The only objection, as I said earlier, was against the connotation that saying "There is no god but Allah" can be construed as shirk.

My argument regarding the negation of all deities was not about negating their existence, but it was about negating their deity-hood.

Ok, thanks again for clarifying.

Of course as Muslims these false idols are not worthy of our or anyone's worship.

For the purposes of reference and discussion, we find that the Qur'aan and Sunnah speaks much about the other deities besides Allaah that the people used to worship. The Qur'aan does not ignore them completely.

So we cannot totally ignore them and blank them out of our minds by using the translation "There is no God but Allaah" because in their ignorance the people considered these false deities as something worth worshipping.

 

[Mustafa2012]

Assalamu-alaikum,

Akhee, it may not be your intention in mentioning that: 'there are many gods besides Allah', (which has been done repeatedly in this thread), but please realise that this statement in itself is shirk, and has the ability of creating confusion amongst our non-muslim viewers.

This does not form part of Tawheed.

Allah (subhanawataa'la) says in Surat Ikhlaas:

قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ - اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ - لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ - وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَّهُ كُفُواً أَحَدٌ

Say: "He is Allah, One.
Allah, He begets not, nor was He begotten.
And there is non comparable to Him.''

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This surah was revealed because people were worshipping things other than Allah or associating partners to Him.

The above quoted statements affirm the existence of these idols/ partners as actual deities.......which is untrue.

These were false deities, and have no right to be even called 'gods besides Allah'.

Allah is ONE.

To say that: "There is no god but Allah" is absolutely true <---- There is nothing truer than this: there IS NO God, but Allah.
How can this be considered shirk?

In the same way, to say: "There is none worthy of worship except Allah" ,is also true.

At the end of the day, it is our intention when saying the shahada that matters.

And Allah (subhanawatáala) knows best.


:wa:

Assalamu alaykum wa rahmat Allaahi wa barakaatuh,

Please excuse for addressing your reply. I hope you don't mind.

When brother Muwahhid said,

To say that "there is NO god but Allah" is not a true statement, for there are many gods besides Allah!

Allat and Uzza and Yaghooth wa Ya'ooq and Nasraa, and Jesus the son of Mary, Buddah, Uzair, other idols and images, graves, tombs, desires, monks and righteous people are considered Aaliha [gods] but the determining distinction is understood in light of understanding what the true shahadah means.

I don't think he meant that there are actually many gods worth worshipping besides Allaah. Of course that would not make sense. What I think he meant was that there are many other things/beings worshipped besides Allaah which people consider as gods.

The translation, "None has the right to be worshipped except Allaah" simply acknowledges that there are other things that are worshipped besides Allaah but none of these things are worthy of being worshipped and that Allaah has the most right to be worshipped.

Now you said you believe that the translation, "There is no God but Allaah" to be correct, and ideally speaking from a Muslims perspective this is completely true.

However in order for us to convince a polytheist or a disbeliever that what they are worshipping is not worthy of worship we have to use some term of reference to refer to the things that they worship. The word "ilaah" in Arabic is a general word used to refer to anything that is worshipped. In English we use the word "deity" and some use the word "god" but I don't like to use this word for obvious reasons.

Now the reason that Muwahhid and myself believe that "There is no God but Allaah" is not an accurate translation of "La ilaaha illa Allaah" is because from the words of the scholar he has quoted you will notice that the issue in the statement "La ilaaha illa Allaah" is that is not focused on denying the existence of other (false) deities.

The Qur'aan does not deny their existence or completely ignore the idols or false deities that were worshipped. On the contrary, it acknowledged them but put forth many arguments and examples to make people see why everything besides Allaah was not worthy of being worshipped and only Allaah was The One truly worthy of being worshipped.

So the issue in the statement is to acknowledge that none besides Allaah has The Right to be worshipped. This is why we are saying that the translation "There is none that has The Right to worshipped besides Allaah" is a more accurate translation and many of the Arab scholars as well as English speaking scholars and daa'ees use this translation as well.

The problem with using the translation "There is no God but Allah" is that if taken literally it only means that there are no other gods in existence besides Allaah but it doesn't negate the right of other deities that are worshipped besides Allaah, nor does it affirm the right of Allaah to be worshipped alone, which is why we are making such a big deal of it.

 

[جوري]

Say: "He is Allah, One.

Great post.. but that is mistranslated too..
Do you notice how it doesn't say 'qul hwa Allah wahid', rather 'Qul hwa Allah Ahad'? there's a difference between Wahid and Ahad.
Wahid means one, whereas Ahad essentially means indivisible and this is directed toward Anyone who associates partners unto Allah, in whatever form of shirk..

And Allah swt knows best,

 

[Muwaahid]

Assalamu-alaikum,

*****wa alaykum salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu

Akhee, it may not be your intention in mentioning that: 'there are many gods besides Allah', (which has been done repeatedly in this thread), but please realise that this statement in itself is shirk, and has the ability of creating confusion amongst our non-muslim viewers.

******What I posted is sufficient as a reply to your denial of these other gods [this lower case "g" is there for a reason] Do you know what a deity is? A deity is anything worshipped whether it is worshipped truthfully or in falsehood. If we were to look up the meaning of Tawghoot in Usoolu Thalaatha [which is on this site completely translated wa Lillahil Hamd in the Aqeedah section, May Allah reward those who took the time to post it and bless those who read it Ameen] Shaykhul Islaam Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhaab [rahimahullah] said:
"And the Tawaagheet [plural of Tawghoot] are many and the heads of them are five:
1. Iblees may Allah curse him
2. Whoever is worshipped and is pleased with being worshipped
3. Whoever calls the people to the worship of himself
4. Whoever claims to have knowledge of the unseen
5. Whoever rules or judges with other than what Allah sent down

Each of these has an abundance of information under them however this is not the proper time to explain them in detail. As for you saying that I mentioned abundantly throughout my post [and im paraphrasing] there are many gods then yes, you are right, I did say that because there are. Does Allah any where in the Qur'aan ever speak of people worshipping others besides Him? Or worshipping Allah but associating others along in WORSHIP with Allah? Why did Allah create creation? Why did Allah send down the Books? Why did Allah send the Prophets and Messengers? Why will we be asked those three questions in the grave? What do those questions center around? Why will Allah ressurect us? Why would Allah punish those who associated partners in worship with him? WHY? WHY? WHY? If you read the previous post then you would realize that what you brought to this discussion [no disrespect intended] but was irrelevant and it has already been answered completelty, and I do not mean to say this in a rough way but the post is clear insha Allah. I honestly believe that the only confusion arises is only a result of not understanding the shahaadah in the first place and being reared upon that bad information and never really looking into it. Did you know the Shahaadah has conditions? If not fulfilled in their entirety then it wont benefit the one who says it? Did you know there are nullifiers of it, that if one does one of the nullifiers of it, their shahaadah is worthless? There is a need to study Tawheed. Many Muslims don't understand the shahaadah although we recite it everyday in our 5 daily prayers. Did you know that?

This does not form part of Tawheed.

Allah (subhanawataa'la) says in Surat Ikhlaas:

قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ - اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ - لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ - وَلَمْ يَكُنْ لَّهُ كُفُواً أَحَدٌ

Say: "He is Allah, One.
Allah, He begets not, nor was He begotten.
And there is non comparable to Him.''

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This surah was revealed because people were worshipping things other than Allah or associating partners to Him.

*****Exactly see, you answered your own question, so those things that were worshipped or those individuals who were worshipped along with Allah did they deserve that worship? Did they deserve that magnification and adoration and supplication? No! Why? Because Allah created the heaven and the earth with any previous example, Because He created us and sustained us, and He has complete and perfect sovereignty and dominion over everything in the heavens and earths, and He is the only One worthy of woirship, that is the right of Allah over his servants sister. In the title of the book Kitaabu Tawheed Alladhee Huwa Haqqu Allah Ala Abeed [the book of tawheed which is the [haqq]right of Allah upon His servants. All throughout this discussion have you noticed Haqq , Yustahiqqu, Istihqaaq?

The above quoted statements affirm the existence of these idols/ partners as actual deities.......which is untrue.

****if what you are saying is true then why would Allah mention it throughout the Quran abundantly? Why would we give dawah to non-muslims if what they are upon is correct?Why would the messengers be sent inviting people to worship Allah alone? They are real and actual deities but...but...but... they are not worthy of worship, they are worshipped in falsehood, they are NOT worthy of worship! they are NOT worthy of worship! they are NOT worthy of worship! People worship them? Yes people worship them but they should direct all their love and devotion and adoration and humility and worship to Allah alone. Who was with Allah when He created creation? No one! Did Allah need help when He created the heavens and earths? No! Was there anyone to help Allah in this? No! Allah did it all by Himself! So why would anyone worship someone else along with Allah? Subhaana Allah!

These were false deities, and have no right to be even called 'gods besides Allah'.

****Allah called them deities, Allah's Messenger called them deities, if you have a problem with that, take it to Allah. Im not trying to sound rough or mean but this is serious. I didnt come with anything from myself, from my back pocket, from left field, I brought texts, ayaat, the statement of a scholar in support of my position. And believe me I have many more proofs to bring insha Allah,

Allah is ONE.



To say that: "There is no god but Allah" is absolutely true <---- There is nothing truer than this: there IS NO God, but Allah.
How can this be considered shirk?

******That has already been discussed in the translation of the post please read it again.

In the same way, to say: "There is none worthy of worship except Allah" ,is also true.

At the end of the day, it is our intention when saying the shahada that matters.

*****Nope thats wrong, at the end of the day it is not our intention it is understanding an implementing what is required when saying our shahaadah. Please read the conditions of the Shahaadah, do ypu think the ulema [scholars] of Islam were bored and desired to make Islam a hardship upon the people so they concocted philosophies and principles to prevent them from twiddling their thumbs? They worked extremely hard to facilitate this religion for us in helping us understand what Allah expects from us.

And Allah (subhanawatáala) knows best.

:wa:

Yes Allah Subhaanahu wa Ta'aalaa knows best

 

[Mustafa2012]

****Allah called them deities, Allah's Messenger called them deities, if you have a problem with that, take it to Allah. Im not trying to sound rough or mean but this is serious. I didnt come with anything from myself, from my back pocket, from left field, I brought texts, ayaat, the statement of a scholar in support of my position.

Please read the conditions of the Shahaadah, do you think the ulema [scholars] of Islam were bored and desired to make Islam a hardship upon the people so they concocted philosophies and principles to prevent them from twiddling their thumbs? They worked extremely hard to facilitate this religion for us in helping us understand what Allah expects from us.

Yes Allah Subhaanahu wa Ta'aalaa knows best

I'm glad you mentioned this akhee.

Some people don't want to acknowledge that other deities besides Allaah are being worshipped or exist in the minds and hearts of people but there are so many references to other deities in The Qur'aan and hadeeth about other deities.

So how can we completely ignore them and not address them for purposes of refuting them?

 

[AabiruSabeel]

Since we have now started going in circles and repeating the same over and over again, let's summarize all the points and lay this topic to rest.

1. The translation of the Kalimah لا إله إلا الله is "There is no god but Allah".

This Kalimah has two parts: negation and affirmation. The first part, "There is no god" negates the god-hood of everything and the second part "but Allah" or "except Allah" affirms that Allah is the One and Only God. Anything else besides Allah is not god, hence they are all unworthy of worship (which is directly implied here)

We all agree with this point :alhamd:.
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2. The meaning of the Kalimah لا إله إلا الله "There is no god but Allah" is لا معبود بحق إلا الله "There is none worthy of worship except Allah".

That is to say, the implied meaning of "There is no god but Allah" is "There is none worthy of worship except Allah".

And this is what the Shaikh explained when he said و معنى هذه الكلمة اجمالا: لا معبود بحق الا الله (translation: the meaning of this Kalimah in brief is There is none worthy of worship except Allah)
The Kalimah itself is لا إله إلا الله "There is no god but Allah" and it will remain لا إله إلا الله forever. We cannot replace the Kalimah لا إله إلا الله with لا معبود بحق إلا الله.

But we can say, The meaning of the Kalimah لا إله إلا الله "There is no god but Allah" is لا معبود بحق إلا الله "There is none worthy of worship except Allah".
(Note the difference between the words Translation and Meaning. The first point speaks about the translation of the Kalimah and this point speaks about its meaning)

We all agree on this point as well :alhamd:.
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3. There are false deities besides Allah whom disbelievers worship but they are all false and whoever calls them a deity without specifying that they are false is committing shirk.

Whenever we speak of any other deity besides Allah, we must inform the reader/listener that they are false and they are not worthy of worship and that they are nothing more than stones, mud, wood, plants, planets and stars.

There is no negation in the existence of the false deities but there is negation in the deity-hood of those false deities.


Again, we all agree on this point as well :alhamd:, so let's just lay this topic to rest.
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[Muwaahid]

As-Salaamu Alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuhu, Here is a great explanation of Laa Ilaaha Illa Allah, Some of the Scholars of the past used to say which is actually a Qaa'idah [principle] "Wa Bi-Dhidhdhihaa Tatabayyanu Ash'yaa'oo" Meaning things become distictively clear by their opposites." You won't know the East except by knowing what is West, You won't know what is up except with knowing what is down and what is similiar to this in meaning. And there are other examples in this especially in the hadeeth when that great Sahabi mentioned"kana naasu yas'aloona rasoolallahi [sallallahu alayhi wa sallam] anil khayr wa kuntu yas'aluhu anish- sharr mukhaafatan an yudrikanee" The people used to ask the Messenger of Allah [sallallahu alayhi wa sallam about the Good, but I used to ask the Messenger of Allah [sallallahu alayhi wa sallam] about the Evil for FEAR OF FALLING INTO IT" So below is a link to a lecture you can listen to, it is my ardent hope and desire that all the Muslims listen to it and from it tremendously. Nas'ala Allahu Subhaanahu wa Ta'aala An Yanfa3naa Bimaa Sami3naa Min Ayaatihi wa Dhikru Hakeem! Allahumma Ameen

Wrong Meaning of Laa ilaaaha illa Allah
http://abdurrahman.org/audio/AbuMuaawiyahAqeelIngram/