Shamil Basayev - Hero of the Caucasus and the Islamic World

[Chechnya]

Was Basayev's behavior islamic?

Beslan, no. His decade long fight against the Russian military, yes - him saving the Chechn people from total annhilation in the first war, yes. I love him greatly for that - and so should all others here.

And if it isn't why do you allow praise for him on the board? Isn't that a violation of the posted rules?

Already answered - its not our fault you cant read. Im not gonna repeat it again for little kids who have the attention span of a 2 year old :rollseyes

I would have thought that Basayev's behavior was un-islamic, but considering the attitude on this board I'm beginning to wonder.

Yes, Beslan was very unislamic.

Until you get into your think skull, that Shamil repented what he did in beslan and offered to die for it, you wont understand anything.
An education is a great thing - i reccommend it to you

I've completely run out of patience.

I have no more patience for the barbarity and lack of humanity shown by SOME of the posters

I have no more patience for the barbarity and lack of humanity shown by SOME of the posters like yourself who seemingly want the Chechen people to continue to be slaughtered.

I have no more patience for the administrators who will not enforce their own rules.

I came to this board to learn about Islam and I have. I wont be posting or coming here anymore.

:thankyou:

If you ever decide to get that education, please do return to us.

I truly pray that none of your precious little children are ever in the hands of someone like Basayev, even though I know you wont return the favor for my little ones.

Rather than pretending to care about us - do us a favour, sort your own people out.
Try not to re-elect mass-murderers who have been slaughtering muslim women and children. Only when you have achieved this can we talk properly. Adios!

 

[Keltoi]

This is all a matter of perspective. Blunderbus is upset because he feels there isn't enough condemnation of what happened in Beslan. Those posters whose perspective is that of Chechen supporters feel they have condemned the massacre, but feel outraged that Westerners seem so upset about Beslan but say nothing about the atrocities committed by Russians upon the Chechen children. It is a product of perspective. As small as the world is getting, (globalization), there is still a disconnect between much of the world and the those forgotten countries like Chechnya whose plight gets little to no global media attention. If we can all agree on anything, perhaps it is that Belsan was an evil act, the atrocities by the Russians were and are evil acts...and the best we can hope for is an end to violence from both sides.

 

[blunderbus]

I had to come back one more time...

"that Shamil repented what he did in beslan and offered to die for it"
That's a crock and you know it! He never quite got around to turning himself in, did he? But that's someone elses fault too, isn't it? That offer was just for the benefit of people like you!

There is NEVER a justification for specifically targeting children. They were like wolves hunting rabbits and you're too full of evil to have any compassion for those tiny victims. They were kafir so there lives are not important to you, why don't you just admit it. Do you smile when you think of your brave muslim warriors raping 9 year old girls? Or your heroes shooting fleeing children in the back? I bet you wish you could have dealt out some of your own misery to the little kafirs. Do you chuckle when think of little children being forced to drink their own urine? You do if they are kafir children (not really humans anyway right?) Don't lie and say you have any feelings at all for them, you called their murderer a "HERO!"

You say that I don't care about the deaths of innocents?! I didn't start a thread calling a child butcherer a hero, you did! You brought it up. Get it? You're the one that made light of the deaths of innocents NOT ME.

"Rather than pretending to care about us "
You can't point to a single post I've made celebrating anyone who deliberately massacred Muslim children.
Did I call the Russians who commit atrocities in Chechnya "heroes"? I did not. You call an admitted mass child murderer a "Hero" and you have the audacity to suggest that it is ME that is cold hearted!

"If we can all agree on anything, perhaps it is that Belsan was an evil act, the atrocities by the Russians were and are evil acts...and the best we can hope for is an end to violence from both sides."
I completely agree with this but Chechnya doesn't. To him only one half of this is evil, the other is heroic. It all depends on the religion of the victim and victimizer.

"Chechen supporters feel they have condemned the massacre"
yet love the man that carried it out, give me a break!


Chechnya,you have no soul, no heart, no humanity. You only see people as human beings if they are like you. Their suffering isn't important as long as you get what you want. You are EXACTLY like the Russians committing the atrocities in Chechnya, no difference, NONE. You and everyone like you disgust me. People like you are the reason there is so much death and pain in the world.

"If you ever decide to get that education"
You've given me quite an education already. I thought it was self apparent to EVERYONE that terrorizing, raping and murdering children is ALWAYS wrong and anyone who purposefully does it is not to be admired, but I was wrong. Some people don't have the humanity to grasp that simple concept.

 

[Muezzin]

This thread ran its course long ago. Locked.