Sharia law in UK is 'unavoidable'

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Heera Singh said:
Eve.. don't you find it very unfair for a woman who has been raped, to have produce 4 male witnesses? In fact, i think the people who should be 'stoned' are those 4 males who watched her get raped and didn't do anything about it...

those 4 people who wouldn't do anything while their fellow sister is getting raped, are nothing more then cowards...
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Exuse me? I have said no such thing.
I have established certain truths for you
1- there is no Islamic state anywhere currently in the world implenting shari3a law
2- No one here on this board Muslim or otherwise, unless they are actually graduate of schools on Islamic law can give you a fatwa as to what evidence was needed, presented or required for a ruling, using an analogy, quite simple, reading an article about a topic in medicine doesn't make one a doctor, anymore than some radio host speaking about a raped woman's injustice is judge, juror or executioner.. Unless you were directly involved with the case, I'd rather be spared the schmaltzy sense of Justice and non-existing self-righteous altruism !

peace
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
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B]Well it'll shed light on the matter....or is everything on the net fabricated...[/B]
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I don't know use your best judgement!

Emigrate to to the Panjab, you'll see how Sikhi law is implemented. If you and others want shariah, go to and reside in Sudan, Iran, SA, Qatar, (many others) you'll have laws to live by that meet your criteria....

Gur Fateh
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I have no interest in migrating anywhere to see how you imaginary sense of Islamic or sikhi 'law' is being implemented.
I really dislike repeating myself on every post...
any mediocre curricular history book for fifth graders can already establish for you dissolution of the caliphate and, pan-Arabism, secular rulings through out the Muslim world.
Precisely the reason, most people are screaming to bring back the caliphate is due to the sort of injustice that runs rampant in those places!

cheers
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1- there is no Islamic state anywhere currently in the world implenting shari3a law
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there are countries that refer to or implement Sharia Law in some cases, aren't they? For example, the rape case about 6 or 7 months back.

Is the statement of a woman who has been raped to provide 4 male witnesses to prove her innocence, a wrong one?
 
Heera Singh said:
there are countries that refer to or implement Sharia Law in some cases, aren't they? For example, the rape case about 6 or 7 months back.

Is the statement of a woman who has been raped to provide 4 male witnesses to prove her innocence, a wrong one?
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Yes it is wrong. You don't need a witness for a rape case - the victim is the important aspect here. Only in adultery cases are witnesses required but that is another matter. As I have stated many times before, common sense runs throughout the rulings and law system of Islam. Unfortunately, not every muslim country is run by people with common sense. Hence we get stupid cases with even stupider end results.
 
snakelegs said:
i don't really see the big deal here. i think in new york, jews have their own courts for stuff like the above and it hasn't hurt anybody.
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Do they have stoning to death?

Do the women cover from head-to-toe? (I have no problem with the Hijab, as Sikh women too are told to cover the head with veil or Dastaar/turban - But it bans the covering of the face (purdah) as Dhan Guru Amar Das Ji Mahraaj said it shows the women to be inferior)
 
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BTW PA - Isn't the shariah based on the hadiths? then this isn't what was revealed by Angel Gabriel, it's the sayings and doings of Muhammed. It's not the word of God?
 
Also, how do you plan to implement it, when the Shia don't follow the Sunni version? You have internal disputes over it allready. EG: Nikah Mut'ah (for Shia) Nikah just for Sunnis. It's impossible.
 
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What would you do in cases of apostasy?

See this can go on and on. It's best to leave things as they are, because nobody will benefit from shariah. Obey the laws of this country please.
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
What would you do in cases of apostasy?

See this can go on and on. It's best to leave things as they are, because nobody will benefit from shariah. Obey the laws of this country please.
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Obey the laws of this country,where teenagers are alcoholics peadophilles get locked up for few years and they are told go hunt some more kids,where mothers leave they children behind at home and hit the night clubs and then get drunk and get rapped why because she was wearing a mini skirt ,obey the laws eh? im tired of switchin on the telly in the morning and to see the jeremy kyle show dealing with all sorts of problem from family disputes ,cheating,incest and yeah thats the british law for u SON!

there's no control,no shame,no decency and no nothing
 
Ahmedjunior said:
Obey the laws of this country,where teenagers are alcoholics peadophilles get locked up for few years and they are told go hunt some more kids,where mothers leave they children behind at home and hit the night clubs and then get drunk and get rapped why because she was wearing a mini skirt ,obey the laws eh? im tired of switchin on the telly in the morning and to see the jeremy kyle show dealing with all sorts of problem from family disputes ,cheating,incest and yeah thats the british law for u SON!

there's no control,no shame,no decency and no nothing
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How silly of me, forgive my insolence...

The above mentioned things NEVER take place in any of the Muslim countries. I mean you NEVER hear of any Muslims being hung, amputated, lashed, or sentenced to death or even sent to jail in Muslim states, BECAUSE my word shariah law is such a deterrent!!! :argue:
 
The day shariah is allowed here will be the day hell freezes over! YOU HEAR ME!! MUHAHAHAHAHA...HA....MU...HA...
 
ok avarallahnoor i dont wanna cause a fuss u stick with what u think and il stick with mine
 
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AvarAllahNoor said:
BTW PA - Isn't the shariah based on the hadiths? then this isn't what was revealed by Angel Gabriel, it's the sayings and doings of Muhammed. It's not the word of God?
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Sharia is based on Quran, Hadith and sunnah. So it is in laymans terms the word of God with the execution of the Prophet [saw].

There should only be one justice/legal/law system in a country. Having more in one country creates confusion, especially with sharia law as it is quite different to the norm.
 
the archbishop of canterbury knows the sharia is the best law appropriate for britain other wise he would have not said anything
 
Ahmedjunior said:
Obey the laws of this country,where teenagers are alcoholics peadophilles get locked up for few years and they are told go hunt some more kids,where mothers leave they children behind at home and hit the night clubs and then get drunk and get rapped why because she was wearing a mini skirt ,obey the laws eh? im tired of switchin on the telly in the morning and to see the jeremy kyle show dealing with all sorts of problem from family disputes ,cheating,incest and yeah thats the british law for u SON!

there's no control,no shame,no decency and no nothing
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You are generalizing people. Not everybody is like that. Sure, there is a decadency in west Countries, but obviously, you didn't travel around a lot to know about that topic. Not all teenies are like that !
Middle East countries are no way better. You think it is nice to hear when muslim teachers teach the pupils to slaughter Zionists, kill all unbelievers or when some little girls make statements like 'I wanna be a suicide bomber when I'm grown up'. ?
According to your words, you must not be very old else you would not make such silly comments.
Sharia law is NO solution and west countries will never tolerate that. And believe it or not, the muslims I know personally here in my country, neither !

Da !

Peace
 
The guy is an idiot. In his own words, he believes it to be a form of appeasement which historically has always worked so well...*rollseyes*

As mentioned before, if you wasnt shariah-based law system, off you to middle-eastern countries. I see no reason why one minority should be granted an entire court/law system (paid for out of everyone's pocket) and not give every single either minority the same deal.
 
Historical question:

Where and for how long has Sharia been assiduously applied (according to universal agreement among Muslim scholars)?
 
guyabano said:
You are generalizing people. Not everybody is like that. Sure, there is a decadency in west Countries, but obviously, you didn't travel around a lot to know about that topic. Not all teenies are like that !
Middle East countries are no way better. You think it is nice to hear when muslim teachers teach the pupils to slaughter Zionists, kill all unbelievers or when some little girls make statements like 'I wanna be a suicide bomber when I'm grown up'. ?
According to your words, you must not be very old else you would not make such silly comments.
Sharia law is NO solution and west countries will never tolerate that. And believe it or not, the muslims I know personally here in my country, neither !

Da !

Peace
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Cmon!! the majority of the teenagers have no control,if u disagree thats fine but why is it that everyday on the news underage drinking is mentioned why is the government not acting up,
and as for the muslim teachers telling the youngsters to slaughter zionists or what ever, i was in a muslim school in the middle east for 12 year and i cant remember a teacher telling me kill those unbelievers and 12 years is alot in fact the closest thing they said was do not imitate the unbeilevers and stick close to ur religion.
About the sharia law not being the solution u maybe right it probably wouldn't work ppl are to attached to theyr so called buzzing life of chilling out as they say

peace
 

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