Shoe thrower’s story

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Assalamualaikum warahmatullah,

That is not the Westerners who should be blamed 100%, but we Muslim ourselves had dragged ourselves into today's current situation. This had happened since the fall of Ottomania Caliphate where Muslim Arabs had been rioting over Muslim Turks Caliphate and began emphasizing on Arab nationalism rather than Islam as the religion that brought us from different nations together. That nationalism thinking of course had been promoted by Western World for their colonialism benefit. We kill each other and quarreling too due to different sects while we should all agree that Allah is the Only One and we accept Muhammad as His last messenger.

Also Muslim Kingdoms in Andalusia, after 800 years of Golden Age Islam had contributed toward Europe, had been intoxicated in luxurious life after their forefathers had been striving to establish Muslim Community in Western Europe. Look at how the Muslim leaders co-operate with their non-Muslim Awliyaa, what had happened when we had left the teaching of Allah in avoiding non-Muslim Awliyaa?

I do not want to find faults in non-Muslim Westerners, not all of them are with bad agendas I do understand. We Muslims in Asia and Africa had experienced being colonized by Western World since 15th C. Began with Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, and English. Muslims never colonize Western World in the true meaning, not all of the Western community in Balkan had been Islamisized by Muslim Ottoman Caliphate when they entered Eastern Europe as the fact that Filipinos had been largely Christianized by Roman Catholic Spanish Conquistadors. Even Muslims in Spain had suffered Inquisition by Papal authority after Ferdinand and Isabelle had gained power even more worse than what had been experienced by Protestants if they refused to leave their motherland and their religion.

Muslims in my country who had no bloody history with Western Christians as we are previously of Hindu-Buddhism faith before peacefully accepting Islam too had experienced mal treatment in 1915 colonial period. Example, local Muslim leader who's called as Tuk Janggut had been prosecuted by British brutally just because he and other Muslim folks refused to pay non-reasonable tax imposed by British on their ancestors inherited land. Worse, British had humiliated his corpse and hanging his dead body upside down until it is rotten and being paraded everywhere in Town. There is no media to spread the news and propaganda like CNN at that time. Today international medias had been conquered by CNN and BBC. I do not support extremism but it seems like there is no fair justification.
 
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LOL!! If someone had thrown a shoe at Saddam when he was alive, that person would have been killed!!

The shoe throwing is in sorts an example of the right of free speech!! It is because of the freedoms brought by the coalition.

With freedom comes responsibility! How can anyone expect the Iraqi to understand freedom and the responsibility that comes with it? They have been living under a dictator.

If the Iraqis understood they would not have stolen from and ransacked their museums that are meant for all people to enjoy.

The Iraqis really need some civic classes!!

who will give Iraqis civic classes? barbarians as yourself?
 
who will give Iraqis civic classes? barbarians as yourself?



Well, if the Iraqis would quite acting like they belonged to the millitias and sects you mentioned and started acting like the Muslims they claim to be, then rather than fighting and killing each other, maybe they could be the ones giving civic lessons. But here is the thing, instead of doing that, they are acting as bad or worse than the westerners you so hate. So, like malayloveislam says:
is not the Westerners who should be blamed 100%, but we Muslim ourselves had dragged ourselves into today's current situation

The difference between you and him is that because he sees it, he can also help the Ummah to get out of it. But since you pass all of the blame on to someone else, you will never be able to fix what needs to be fixed. The USA will leave, and either there will be civil war, or another despot. And of course it will again be the westerners fault. The Arabs were fighting each other in sects before Muhammad, and they are still doing it 1300 years after Muhammad. Apparently the culture of shoe throwing and power grabbing is more ingrained than Islam is.
 
Thats a good point. I wonder how many of those Bush-throwners aimed Osama ben Laden et consortes. I guess, very few.

Yeh, because OBL is really giving press-conferences where anyone who hates him can throw shoes at him.:rollseyes And all this time I thought he was in hiding...
 
Yeh, because OBL is really giving press-conferences where anyone who hates him can throw shoes at him.:rollseyes And all this time I thought he was in hiding...

I was rather talking about that computer games that North Malaysian mentioned. :)
 
Peace be upon those who follow the guidance,

so, i want to see if i understand this correctly:

the US and it's allies do the following:

bomb the WTC buildings for the 2nd time! along with WTC #7 killing in the neighborhood of 3000 people

evidence:

http://onedollardvdproject.com/DVD-new/Order.html

or google Zeiteist II The Myth of 911 and Zeiteist IIIThe Men Behind The Curtain

9/11 Mysteries & Terror Storm or

google 9/11 Mysteries Part 1 the Demolitions

Loose Change II, TerrorStorm, 911 Eyewitnes, Road to Tyranny

or google Loose Change II and Loose Change the Final cut

David Ray Griffin: 911 and the American Empire

or just google David Ray Griffin and watch them all!

HERE, you can purchase (or just google these) for about $1 [yup ONE American dollar!]:

Loose Change: Final Cut
9/11 The Myth and Reality a Lecture by Dr. David Ray Griffin
LOOSE CHANGE 2ND EDITION
9/11: Blueprint for Truth, Architect Richard Gage dissertation on why the official story cant be true.
A lecture by Webster G. Tarpley.
September 11 Revisited: Were Explosives Used to Bring Down the Buidlings?
9/11 Mysteries

and because the 1st trade center bombing didn't work as planned the Murrah building in OK had to go:
OKC Bombing: The Forerunner to 9/11

and let's not forget that MORE people will die because the Bush administration LIED about the air quality in NYC:
Loose Change: Final Cut
and back from Ron:
Ground Zero Air Quality

i buy from both Ron and Alfons, they can be trusted to fill the orders quickly

AND THERE'S ALSO:
the fact that PNAC preplanned the Bushwars BEFORE he was elected to office:
Oil Smoke and Mirrors
and this website:
http://tvnewslies.org/html/stop_ignoring_9_11___pnac.html

THERE IS DISAGREEMENT on how many Iraqi children have died as a result of sanctions BEFORE the war, but between 100,000 and 500,000 are the numbers usually cited:
http://www.cis.org.au/POLICY/winter02/polwin02-2.htm

US ATOMIC WARFARE, yes that's correct over 500,000 tones of depleted uranium have been use in Iraq/Afghanistan:

http://www.uslaboragainstwar.org/article.php?id=17544

http://www.willthomasonline.net/willthomasonline/US_Veteran_Reveals_Atomic_Bombs.html

WARNING: GRAPHIC IMAGES:
http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/depleted_uranium_iraq_afghanistan_balkans.html

this video from Ron has 6 Iraq war docs:
Combo, Iraq War: Six Documentaries

or google:
Beyand Treason

as for the SECTARIAN VIOLENCE, ever heard of British commandos driving around dressed up like Arabs?:

http://www.breakingnews.ie/archives/?c=WORLD&jp=cwcwkfojidkf&d=2005-09-19
google it a tad different[British dressed as Arabs] and you get:
http://newsmine.org/content.php?ol=...dressed-like-arabs-fired-on-police-patrol.txt

http://www.rense.com/general67/cmndo.htm

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread171758/pg1

as for the PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER, you MUST see:

5 DVD Set "Evidence of Revision" is a 5-DVD, 8 about the Kennedy assassination, this is a must see, the most complete documentary on the Kennedy killings. [from Alfons]

or watch it here free:

http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id844.html

and watch these vids from Ron:
Combo: Election Fraud Videos

as for the BUSH FAMILY involvement, watch this:

http://johnmccarthy90066.tripod.com/id749.html

or you can order it from Ron as:
Combo: JFK & Son [Ron's copy is better than Alfons']

SO ALL THIS CRAP HAPPENS and there will be some people sitting around celebrating Winter Solstice, happy as pigs in sh*t, and they will be talking about HOW UNCIVILIZED IS THE GUY WHO THREW HIS SHOE????

SUBHANALLAH!!!!!!

you may now return to your regular programming!

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Iraqi shoe thrower set for trials

An Iraqi journalist who flung shoes at US President George W Bush will go on trial on 31 December, his brother and a judge have said.

Muntadar al-Zaidi is accused of "aggression against a foreign head of state" over the 14 December incident.

The 28-year-old, hailed as a hero by some in the Arab world, could face a jail term if convicted.

His brother says he has been abused in detention and plans to file a legal suit over his injuries.

The journalist hurled the shoes - a grave insult in the Arab world - at Mr Bush as he addressed a news conference in Baghdad, during a surprise one-day visit.

Calling the US president a "dog", he said he was acting for "widows and orphans and all those killed in Iraq".

'Sales spike'

Investigating Judge Dhiya al-Kenani told the AFP news agency that the trial date had been set for the last day of 2008.

"The investigation phase is over and the case has been transferred to the Central Criminal Court," he said.

Aggression against a head of state carries a prison term of between five and 15 years - but media reports said Mr al-Zaidi could eventually face a lesser charge of "attempted aggression".



President Bush ducks as the shoes are thrown during a news conference

The journalist's brother, Uday al-Zaidi, confirmed the court date, but made accusations against the Iraqi authorities of beating and abusing his brother.

His brother had lost a tooth and had burns on his ears, he told the Associated Press news agency after visiting him in detention on Sunday. He was planning to sue, he told the agency.

Mr Kenani rejected the allegations of abuse. The only marks on Mr al-Zaidi's face were bruises, the judge said, and they were small ones received during the arrest, he told AFP.

Mr Bush himself has sought to play down the incident. Last week his spokeswoman said he had "no hard feelings" over the matter.

But it has been gleefully seized upon by anti-Bush protesters around the world - and is reported to have boosted the business of one Turkish shoe-maker.

According to the New York Times, sales at the Istanbul-based Baydan Shoe Company have spiked after it claimed to have made the footwear hurled at Mr Bush.

Ramazan Baydan told the newspaper it was definitely his shoe, and boasted of new orders coming in from across the world.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/7795428.stm

imsad
 
oh lord...i never thought this day would come :D,just imagine the pleasure and utter europhia of smacking a shoe in george bush's face......lol. HAHA ...
 
Peace be upon those who follow the guidance,

so, i want to see if i understand this correctly:

the US and it's allies do the following:
bomb the WTC buildings for the 2nd time! along with WTC #7 killing in the neighborhood of 3000 people


SO ALL THIS CRAP HAPPENS and there will be some people sitting around celebrating Winter Solstice, happy as pigs in sh*t, and they will be talking about HOW UNCIVILIZED IS THE GUY WHO THREW HIS SHOE????

No, you don't understand this correctly.

What I want to know is why, if he is "to be hailed as a hero in the Arab world", that others didn't stand up previously and become heros for throwing their shoes at Saddam Hussein or Osama Bin Laden or the people who killed Benazir Bhutto or the folks who were part of the Mumbai tragedy, or those who strap bombs to themselves and then walk into supermarkets and blow themselves up taking as many of their neighbors and fellow citizens with them as possible? I suspect it is because the Arab world doesn't see these other people as being as evil (not in the way they do Bush). And then I also pause to wonder what sort of value structure one must have to think that they not evil?
 
I missed this thread.. this was good..
although admittedly I think Bush should have been stripped of his clothes, had some dogs assail his genitals with his naked pictures plastered on the web, and then hung for Christmas day as saddam was for Eid...

one should implement democracy by living the examples of its presenters after all...

I salute that Iraqi gent..

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