Should a muslim wear a poppy?

[Woodrow]

Here in the USA the poppies are made by disabled veteran's confined to VA hospitals. They are sold one day a year on Veteran's day They are to be a reminder that we are alive today because others died for us yesterday.

 

[Raphael]

Here in the USA the poppies are made by disabled veteran's confined to VA hospitals. They are sold one day a year on Veteran's day They are to be a reminder that we are alive today because others died for us yesterday.

Maybe I'll wear one after all.

 

[Woodrow]

I think a lot depends on the reason people wear them that makes it haram or halal. to some it is simply a means to donate money to a disabled person. To some it is honoring American Soldiers. To some it is a reminder of all the young people who died in wars world wide. The meaning differs, from person to person. There is no, holiday or ceremony connected with them.

 

[mahi]

Personally I'm iffy on them, and wouldn't really wear one. But i have no problem buying one from the old man who stands at the bigger train stations. Maybe I don't agree with policies and really I don't even know where the money actually goes, but they say its for the families so thats good enough. If not buy it for the families, buy it to show that better representations of ourselves that has been oft been lacked.

 

[Ar-RaYYan]

As some of you said you wear poppies because to remind us of all those soldiers around the world who have died to fight oppression and persecution. Thats a good reason and i wouldnt mind wearing if that was the only reason. But in reality i feel as another brother said its mostly to commemorate those soldiers who have died from certain nationalities.
Beside that we got the issue of imitating non-muslim. Doesnt it apply to this situation?

I didn't know they were using it for current military action! I thought it was just WW1 WW2!

This year in Britain (more than ever before) the poppy are particularly connected with those dead and alive British soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Most of the billboards i have come across are of fatherless child and his mother holding a picture of their father/husband who died in Afghanistan/Iraq or pictures of troops in Afghanistan. I dont think i feel comfortable wearing a poppy to remind me of soldiers who are fighting an illegal war and not much considerations are given to millions of Iraqis and afghans who lost their lives because of this illegal occupation.

Another issue is where does all that money go to?
dont some of those money go to improve the service for troops in Afganistan?


brother Brasco go to post 7.

 

[cat eyes]

I Was thinking the poppy stood for the English rose how dumb am i :giggling:

 

[sarajulldin]

I am wearing one at this moment in time at work, I wear one each year and only wear one for reminder to me about the wars we had not the current ones in Iraq an Afghanistan

These are illegale wars, but we have to remeber this is not the fault of those people who fight for our governemnts.

I personally think its a decent way in remerbering those who died, and also serves a reminder for all those innocent who have also died due to the wars.

 

[cat eyes]

but by wearing one wouldnt you also be supporting the war on muslims? we all know that people join the army to get a chance to kill a muslim. my grandad and also my great grandad were both in the army and my great grandad was shot in the arm by the british fighting for independence for my country but in those days you joined the army because you basically wanted to fight for peace. English people are wearing for there own people not for anybody else. do you believe they care about the thousands of muslims thats being killed everyday

 

[sarajulldin]

but by wearing one wouldnt you also be supporting the war on muslims? we all know that people join the army to get a chance to kill a muslim. my grandad and also my great grandad were both in the army and my great grandad was shot in the arm by the british fighting for independence for my country but in those days you joined the army because you basically wanted to fight for peace. English people are wearing for there own people not for anybody else. do you believe they care about the thousands of muslims thats being killed everyday

very true, but i dont believe people are joining to kill muslims, they joining to defend the UK. I agree with you, but if we dont remeber you grandad and great grandad then how do we?

 

[alcurad]

oh, right. I thought poppy as in the one you extract opium from..

 

[Ar-RaYYan]

^it seems some of you are confused over the word 'poppy'. Is there another term for it in america?

 

[Woodrow]

^it seems some of you are confused over the word 'poppy'. Is there another term for it in america?

Here we are speaking about the "Buddy Poppy" sold by disabled vets for any donation or given free if a person does not want to give a donation. The red color is to remind people of the blood spilled in wars and the poppy flower is to be a reminder of the graves filled by those wars.

It is usual worn by people like myself who were disabled by combat or those who had family and or friends killed or disabled in combat.

It is a remindar carring many meanigs by whoever wears it. For most it is a reminder of all those who died in war. It also gives the message that "War is not healthy for animals and Humans"

 

[OurIslamic]

Is there a specific day when one should wear a poppy to commemorate those who have fought for Islam? I am interested in wearing one.

 

[czgibson]

Greetings,

English people are wearing for there own people not for anybody else. do you believe they care about the thousands of muslims thats being killed everyday

Any decent human being cares about the deaths of others.

Your statement below is possibly the most paranoid, ignorant and upsetting thing I have ever seen on this forum:

but by wearing one wouldnt you also be supporting the war on muslims? we all know that people join the army to get a chance to kill a muslim.

Peace

 

[Supreme]

Greetings,


Any decent human being cares about the deaths of others.

Your statement below is possibly the most paranoid, ignorant and upsetting thing I have ever seen on this forum:



Peace

I missed those. How distressing how someone could even think that way.

For those of you who are completely clueless:

The Royal British Legion, sometimes referred to as simply The Legion, is the United Kingdom's leading charity providing financial, social and emotional support to millions who have served or who are currently serving in the British Armed Forces, and their dependants.

The British Legion was founded in 1921 as a voice for the ex-Service community as a merger of four organisations: the Comrades of the Great War, the National Association of Discharged Sailors and Soldiers, the National Federation of Discharged and Demobilized Sailors and Soldiers and the Officers' Association. It was granted a Royal Charter on 29 May 1971 to mark its fiftieth anniversary which gives the Legion the privilege of the prefix 'Royal'.[1]

Earl Haig, commander of the Battle of the Somme and Passchendaele was one of the founders of the Legion, and was President until his death.

Perhaps known best for the annual Poppy Appeal and Remembrance services, including the Festival of Remembrance, the Legion was born as a campaigning organisation and has been active behind the scenes in promoting the welfare and interests of the Services and ex-Service community for 86 years.

The Legion fight nearly 36,000 ongoing War Disablement Pension cases for war veterans and make around 300,000 welfare and friendship visits every year.

Ongoing Legion campaigns include calls for more research into: Gulf Illness and compensation for its victims; upgrading of War Pensions; the extension of endowment mortgage compensation for personnel serving overseas; and better support for Service personnel resettling into civilian life. In 2007, the Legion launched the Honour the Covenant campaign urging the Government to honour the Military Covenant.

Educate yourselves.

 

[Woodrow]

Is there a specific day when one should wear a poppy to commemorate those who have fought for Islam? I am interested in wearing one.

Here in the USA they are usually sold on Nov. 11. This was the date WW1 ended. In the past it was called Armastice Day today it is called Veteran's Day. But there is no specific day to wear them or not wea them. ome vets now sell them year round and a person can usually find them for sale in ny VA hospital year round. Although they are sold as reminders of those killed or injured in war they are actually a symbol of Peace. As they remind us that wars kill.

I can understand the concern of many of my Brother's and Sister's in thinking they serve to finance wars. But the money for them goes to help Vets in need especially those forgotten by the government. Disabled vets and relatives of disabled vets are probably the most outspoken group in protest of illegal and/or unjustified wars. We served to be protectors not to be invaders or aggressors. We do get very angry when we see our young citizens being sent off to fight in unneeded or unjust wars. Vets do not want to see any more disabled vets joining our ranks. War has caused enough of us and it is time to stop the madness.

One of America's most out spoken veteran's, click on the link:

http://webhost.bridgew.edu/jhayesboh/iraq.html

 

[OurIslamic]

Here in the USA they are usually sold on Nov. 11. This was the date WW1 ended. In the past it was called Armastice Day today it is called Veteran's Day. But there is no specific day to wear them or not wea them. ome vets now sell them year round and a person can usually find them for sale in ny VA hospital year round. Although they are sold as reminders of those killed or injured in war they are actually a symbol of Peace. As they remind us that wars kill.

I can understand the concern of many of my Brother's and Sister's in thinking they serve to finance wars. But the money for them goes to help Vets in need especially those forgotten by the government. Disabled vets and relatives of disabled vets are probably the most outspoken group in protest of illegal and/or unjustified wars. We served to be protectors not to be invaders or aggressors. We do get very angry when we see our young citizens being sent off to fight in unneeded or unjust wars. Vets do not want to see any more disabled vets joining our ranks. War has caused enough of us and it is time to stop the madness.

One of America's most out spoken veteran's, click on the link:

http://webhost.bridgew.edu/jhayesboh/iraq.html

Thanks for the information

 

[cat eyes]

Greetings,


Any decent human being cares about the deaths of others.

Your statement below is possibly the most paranoid, ignorant and upsetting thing I have ever seen on this forum:



Peace

really? then why are they always crying about the amount of british soldiers being killed all the time on sky news but they never mention the amount of muslim deaths?? i have nothing against british people both my parents are from british origin all my aunties and uncles and great uncles are all british believe me i have nothing against English people but its your government and your media please don't get me wrong. they are brainwashing your people

 

[Thinker]

What is it ? :embarrass

Red poppies grew like weeds on the fields of France where countless thousands of soldiers died during the trench warfare of WW1, the thousands of blood red poppies were taken as a symbol of the thousands who died in those fields.

 

[Supreme]

really? then why are they always crying about the amount of british soldiers being killed all the time on sky news but they never mention the amount of muslim deaths?? i have nothing against british people both my parents are from british origin all my aunties and uncles and great uncles are all british believe me i have nothing against English people but its your government and your media please don't get me wrong. they are brainwashing your people

One reason for the record on British deaths is that it's of far more importance to the British public as a whole, but another reason is that the Army is an institution that keeps demographic statistics on its own members, thus it is easy to keep track of British casualties, whereas Muslim casualties, whether it be civilian or insurgent, are very hard to keep track of, as there are no official body counts conducted.