Should Isreal Exist?

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Does Israel have the Right to Exist?

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no. the jews in todays israel were given lands and rights when they moved there and look at what theyve done in return.
whos to say when palestine get a state israel isnt going to trouble them? they want the land of Al aqsa and until they get that they wont stop.
they do ot know the meaning of 'peace'

i can say more but ill stop now
 
Guess what I voted for.
What's the bloody point in using the 'promised land' excuse when they are a secular state?!
The sooner it is back in Muslim hands the better. Look at the peace that was there when it was.
But saying that, I also believe that the ahle kitab should be allowed to live there peacefully under Muslim rule.
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KAding said:
Was the creation of Israel in 1948 a mistake? Perhaps.

But it exists now, so let it be. Most countries in this world are artificial construct, the borders of practically all of them were determined by war, many even by offensive conquest aimed at exapansion. In that regard the Israeli case is a bit more complex, since most of the wars Israel fought were wars of survival.

Yes, it is a Zoinist and Jewish state. But there are already more than a million Arabs/Muslims living within that state. They probably have more freedom and a better standard of living than in any arab country. These calls for war and the destruction of Israel will only lead to more war and suffering. Arabs have tried a few times to eradicate Israel and failed, losing land in the process.

Tough luck, they took a gamble, and they lost. Live with it. If you want to have progress and development, war is not the best method.
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In Israel there are over 1 million Muslims consist of Arabs, Jews and immigrants.

Muslim family laws are recognized.

Imams and mosques are sponsored by the state.

Yeah.... there are 10 Arabs in Knesset. Are there any Jews in Palestinian or other Arab nations Parliament.

Bnei Sakhnin is an Arab football club supported by Jews too.
 
nurofislam said:
what are you trying to say? that Palestinians shouldn't fight for their land??
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What are you trying to say? That they should pick up rocks and not the QUr'an?

Akhi, if you'd have spent any time in Gaza or any of the West Bank you would notice that the mosques are empty (well, apart from the old men) Anyone who has spent any amount of time in that cursed country will back me up - I was truly appalled. I'll say no more except that I pray for them to recover.

And maybe it is OUR failing. Too often we pray for the downfall of the Israeli regime where maybe we should be praying for those Palestinian boys to rediscover their faith. Insh'Allah khyr.

Wa Allah hafiz
 
well I am not following the rules by posting twice but I could not help noticing all the quotes and double psoting.

No debates!

...and the poll shows more than 100%
 
Salam
They are on occupied land, so no, they should not exist. And the US and the UK should stop supporting such an open terrorist state.
Wassalam
 
Salaam,

i voted no why simple,
Casue no country in this time and age should be built on the backs of anotehrs.

Isreal came about thru genocide of palestinian,Muslims and chrisitans..

Israel should remain if they respect both muslim and chrisitan,but now they dont..
 
I'm trying to stay within the rules but I'm not gonna let others that's not playing fair to get a pass.
 
knuckles said:
I'm trying to stay within the rules but I'm not gonna let others that's not playing fair to get a pass.
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I do appreciate that, and I know it is so hard to not reply to other posts! Hold yourself!!!
 
Not in palestine, May God curse anyone who supports the Zionist entity Israel

ameen
 
The Jews are the people who,when are abstained from doing something, they do something else!!!
When they were forbidden to deal with new clothes, they started selling old clothes an this was the beginning of the second-hand trade.
When they were forbidden to deal with merchandise and other things, they started dealing with waste products! The Jews were the developers of the present-day waste product trade in the world!
The Jews taught man how to use old rags and how to use the fat removed from the animals while cleaning.
They are actually nomadics who do not have the right to exist!!!
Even if they exist, why should they settle in such clean places like the Middle East.
If they are allowed to exist in the middle east for the next century, they will turn it into a hell!!!
They should wiped out of world!!!
 
shahidiceprince said:
.......They are actually nomadics who do not have the right to exist!!! Even if they exist, why should they settle in such clean places like the Middle East. If they are allowed to exist in the middle east for the next century, they will turn it into a hell!!! They should wiped out of world!!!
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That is a VERY harsh word to be used. Not only it is harsh, it is also racist & bigotry in nature! Dont penalised the whole Jewish people for the crimes of the Zionists Government! Dont mistaken the Zionists movement with the whole of Jewish people as there are even some Jews who go through great length to opposed Zionisms. Surely all of us should have known that they are even addressed in the Quran in a more subtle terms, Ahlul Kitab! There are indeed good jewish people throughout the history of time. You should learn more about it in the first place.

Should Israel exists? Yes, but NOT to the expenses of the Palestinian people. Just go back to the original boundary as have been drafted in the previous UN resolution. PERIOD.
 
shahidiceprince said:
They are actually nomadics who do not have the right to exist!!!
Even if they exist, why should they settle in such clean places like the Middle East.
If they are allowed to exist in the middle east for the next century, they will turn it into a hell!!!
They should wiped out of world!!!
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Probably the most sickening post I've ever seen on this forum. Racist garbage, pure and simple.

That apart, it's amazing so many here are saying "no". Is it really so hard to understand that unless that attitude changes you provide the Israelis with complete justification for virtually everything they do that you object to? The Arab/muslim world is totally impotent to get rid of Israel... the Jewish Israelis aren't going anywhere. Why not accept that Israel will remain, try and get along, and in so doing actually HELP the Palestinian people to get a better life? If you do that, there is an excellent chance of the boundaries Syed Nizam mentioned being re-established, and of pressure, including sanctions, from the West to force the Israelis to comply.
 
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salaam members,
I feel that as much as jews have a right to their own state , it should not be on land that was acquired illegally.
As a muslim ummah it should be our duty to promote harmony as it is not the jews we are against ,just the zionist government. Inshallah the people of palestine will have a place to call their own.
W'salaam
 
they should knock those stupid walls down

they should make it into 1 state (if that is even possible)
they shuldn't have checkpoints-it all goes back to wats that word again? anyway like hitler treated them and how the whites treated the blacks during apartheid and also the segregation in america

on the whole everybody needs to grow up a little and realise that things arn't going to change for the better unless the people want it to change
 
Assalamualaikum..
seen this topic was active.. respectively give my own opinion wether Israel should exist... For me Israel shouldnt be anywhere near M-E... but seeing its technicaly there.. we have no choice but to accept it.. the solution IMO is go back to the 1967 borders.. make two state.. and help out the new palestinian state to compete with Israel..a strong palestinian state will be a defiant force against israel intrusion or influence in the MIddle east... even though the Us is helping Israel.. (bear in mind the George bush addressed to the lobbyist in washington gathering for their 100th anniversary...he said i quote"The Us support for israel will not waever and will persistant as we are natural allies" is that a support of one man representing his nation or its the very will of the nation itself"?
even the Us with its hellbending mission to persue world wide Democracy will have trouble juggling its national defecit and the 5 billions is it or more Dollars per year aid to Israel.. for certain majority of the Us citizen dont even know how much Their goverment is spending on Israel... ive read some say israel is a benefit for M-E for its Hitech industry.. well most are just reverse engineered items.. and for anyone who thinks America is the land of freedom and justice and opportunity.. well think again... the are just like any other country.. its not a context too smear insults.. but the Us isnt perfect... if u say why Imigrants run for the Us.. its only because that the only way out..
Sorry if my opinion is a tit harsh.. but truth must be told.. goverments now isolate events from theyre own public to stay in power... A New CAliphate must be established... its the Only way...
 
Israel doesnt have the right to exist.The jews are collected from all over the world this means that they dont have astate , so they ocuppied the palestinian land and turned its nation to refugees
So this is Democracy to take ones house by force and leave him homeless.but we believe strongly that the right will return to his owners sooner or later
 

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