Should we give money to beggars?

squiggle said:
hmm jus the otherday something happened that made me feel bad, I was standing at the bus stop and this non muslim came upto me and asked if I had 30p for the bus, I only had pound coins on me so I said "nah m8" but he didn't look like a begger he looked like a person who genuinely needed 30p to get home.

Afterwards I felt so bad like I should've gone to the shop which was 2 mins away and got change or jus gave him the pound imsad and then I began thinking, that was the perfect opportunity for dawah also imsad I could've used that situation in so many ways like " I'll give you it with the condition you look into Islam at some point and see what it's about" imsad

Just a few weeks ago this non muslim british born came upto my uncle and asked him for some money for food, my uncle asked him about his situation and he said "my dad's kicked me out and I've been sleeping rough" then my uncle advised him "look this is britain they have places to stay, they don't like homless people on the street go to your local council they'll provide you with somewhere to stay"

so then my uncle gave him £2 for food and he asked if he could have £3 my uncle said your having a laugh ain't ya, you can get a decent meal with £2 but then my uncle gave him anyway with the condition that he looks into Islam at some point.

2 weeks later he took his shahadda in the masjid at a conference infront of many people.

I told my uncle there was a new revert at the conference, I showed him a video of the person reverting on the internet and he shouted,

"I KNOW HIM!! that's the guy who I gave money to for food the other week" :)
Click to expand...

Wow, thats fantastic :)
 
Blackpool said:
With you being out of work I would presume you're on benefits until you find yourself a job. If you did go homeless then you would be able to find accommodation immediately to prevent you living on the streets. There are more than a few in Blackpool. There are 198 hostels for "homeless" people in the North-West area.

Rather than getting themselves in a hostel and sorting themselves out they would rather scrounge aswell as take the other benefits. Nothing but scroungers and I cannot stand them. Why is it that these scroungers are arrested here in the UK if caught by the police?

I was robbed a few times when I was 14 by these scroungers. I no longer have sympathy.
Click to expand...

Just to inform you a little more. The council will only give you somewhere if you have no where to go.

When my parent's kicked out my brother, the council wouldn't give him a place nor would any of the homeless charities because there was a room at the family home for him. He ended up sleeping in his car for two months until he came home and worked something out with my parents.

Like I said, maybe you shouldn't be so quick to judge people who are sleeping on the streets.
 
squiggle said:
hmm jus the otherday something happened that made me feel bad, I was standing at the bus stop and this non muslim came upto me and asked if I had 30p for the bus, I only had pound coins on me so I said "nah m8" but he didn't look like a begger he looked like a person who genuinely needed 30p to get home.

Afterwards I felt so bad like I should've gone to the shop which was 2 mins away and got change or jus gave him the pound imsad and then I began thinking, that was the perfect opportunity for dawah also imsad I could've used that situation in so many ways like " I'll give you it with the condition you look into Islam at some point and see what it's about" imsad

Just a few weeks ago this non muslim british born came upto my uncle and asked him for some money for food, my uncle asked him about his situation and he said "my dad's kicked me out and I've been sleeping rough" then my uncle advised him "look this is britain they have places to stay, they don't like homless people on the street go to your local council they'll provide you with somewhere to stay"

so then my uncle gave him £2 for food and he asked if he could have £3 my uncle said your having a laugh ain't ya, you can get a decent meal with £2 but then my uncle gave him anyway with the condition that he looks into Islam at some point.

2 weeks later he took his shahadda in the masjid at a conference infront of many people.

I told my uncle there was a new revert at the conference, I showed him a video of the person reverting on the internet and he shouted,

"I KNOW HIM!! that's the guy who I gave money to for food the other week" :)
Click to expand...
MashaAllah , too good to be true
 
squiggle said:
Afterwards I felt so bad like I should've gone to the shop which was 2 mins away and got change or jus gave him the pound imsad and then I began thinking, that was the perfect opportunity for dawah also imsad I could've used that situation in so many ways like " I'll give you it with the condition you look into Islam at some point and see what it's about" imsad

Just a few weeks ago this non muslim british born came upto my uncle and asked him for some money for food, my uncle asked him about his situation and he said "my dad's kicked me out and I've been sleeping rough" then my uncle advised him "look this is britain they have places to stay, they don't like homless people on the street go to your local council they'll provide you with somewhere to stay"

so then my uncle gave him £2 for food and he asked if he could have £3 my uncle said your having a laugh ain't ya, you can get a decent meal with £2 but then my uncle gave him anyway with the condition that he looks into Islam at some point.2 weeks later he took his shahadda in the masjid at a conference infront of many people.
Click to expand...

Although this has a great outcome, maashaAllah, are we allowed to do that? Link aid with people having to look into our religion, and making that a condition of helping them?

What if people say, "No, we don't want to look into Islam." Does that mean we're not going to help them?

Are there any recorded instances of rasoolullah sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam having helped people in this way, i.e. only giving on the basis of them looking into Islam?
 
Last edited:
Gossamer skye said:
what counts is your intention.. you sincerely want to help someone.
if she is needy then you'll have helped her insha'Allah
if she is conning you then her 7isab is with Allah swt and you'll still be rewarded for your good deed insha'Allah..

and Allah swt knows best

:w:
Click to expand...
True. But because the thread starter doesn't know how to tell if a beggar is faking, it is better to give a beggar something to eat or drink, rather than money. That way, if they're real, they get something to eat or drink, and if they're fake, they might eventually decide to stop this sham when it fails to turn a sufficient profit.
 
Insane Insaan said:
Although this has a great outcome, maashaAllah, are we allowed to do that? Link aid with people having to look into our religion, and making that a condition of helping them?

What if people say, "No, we don't want to look into Islam." Does that mean we're not going to help them?

Are there any recorded instances of rasoolullah sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam having helped people in this way, i.e. only giving on the basis of them looking into Islam?
Click to expand...

Of course you help them anyway even if they say no but what is the harm in telling some 1 to read Qur'an :hmm: it's not like your charging to help them. if anything your giving them a gift.

and there's many other ways you could do dawah if, you could just simply say "I'm helping you cos my religion tells me too do good" and that would make them think also.

when I mentioned the condition bit it wasn't said with seriousness and strict face, it was said jokingly in a smiling playful way where the person knows even if they say no you'll still help them.

you know when people laugh and joke and say things in such a way that they're taken light heartedly? that's what I meant :hmm:
 
I was confronted with this situation this past weekend. I was in "Little India" New York, (Jackson Heights) this whole weekend......buying more sarees for my wife:p

On the street was a Muslim woman holding a a card that said she lost her job and had a couple of kids to feed. She walked up to me several times and would just say "walaikum Salam" and show me the paper. .......I did hand her $20.00. and asked her if she wanted food from the buffet their, she said no. A few minutes later i was waiting outside and just looking at some of the stuff the street venders had...(I had looked at enough sarees after 8 hoursssssssss:exhausted) I was looking at what one of the Muslim venders had, he noticed me and said that the sister is always begging money and that i shouldn't have given it to her.

I don't know if she was lying or not, but i felt better knowing I helped either way.

God be with you.
 
The employment rate is at its highest since the great depression. It's not exactly "easy" to get a job these days. Therefore, you have to develop a thought process regarding beggars. You can either give to ALL or not give to ANY. You may make a mistake when trying to check if someone is in true need vs someone who isn't.
 
:sl:
To be honest with you i would not give money to a beggar not in europe anyway because in the west theres no excuse and benefits are open to the person they ask people on the road because they use that money to get drugs so id be doing it for the safety of the person once a kid asked me for money he was looking very pale and extremely thin.

at that point i knew straight away he was a junky so i refused him..and you know by the way they behave to that they are stoned off there faces so you have to be careful who you give money to. we are all aware they use it for drugs because they are desperate and they will try anything..but of course i would try and give them dawah if possible and get them to a shelter but its impossible that a person can be dirt poor in the west because so many resources are open for them especially refuges.
 
I saw another old muslim lady today and she could not walk properly. imsad
I gave her some money and she said thank you.
 
Life_Is_Short said:
I saw another old muslim lady today and she could not walk properly. imsad
I gave her some money and she said thank you.
Click to expand...
I really feel helpless when i see old people. The money we give might help them 1 or 2 days :( :( .. how do they sleep , how do they take medicines ( let alone medicines what abt food ) .. whom do they have for talking with .. :(
 
zakirs said:
I really feel helpless when i see old people. The money we give might help them 1 or 2 days :( :( .. how do they sleep , how do they take medicines ( let alone medicines what abt food ) .. whom do they have for talking with .. :(
Click to expand...

I get that feeling too of helplessness sometimes imsad
 
S<Chowdhury said:
I get that feeling too of helplessness sometimes imsad
Click to expand...

Fullfill that feeling of helplessness by helping someone....everyday. Even something small. If you can't aford to donate money, help physically, or donating time, or telling them about God. Just telling them about God will strengthen your faith as well as build up their faith in God and or create belief in God that never existed for them before. How fullfilling would it make you feel to help someone else with their faith?.....Awesome right:D? That is better than any ammount of money you could ever give them.:D

God be with you.Amen
 
I feel we should but when the time comes i back out. Reason being, many beggars will use the money they receive in buying drugs, alcohol etc This puts me off instantly
 
my mum all ways says to me " don't give them, this is britain they have benefits from the government to live off and shelters to live in and council will provide housing eventually.

they could even rent a place and claim housing benefit so their rent gets paid, what more can you ask for. alhamdulilah we are blessed to have it so easy.
 
squiggle said:
my mum all ways says to me " don't give them, this is britain they have benefits from the government to live off and shelters to live in and council will provide housing eventually.

they could even rent a place and claim housing benefit so their rent gets paid, what more can you ask for. alhamdulilah we are blessed to have it so easy.
Click to expand...

I think your mum is referring to some alcoholist and druggists. :hmm:
 
squiggle said:
my mum all ways says to me " don't give them, this is britain they have benefits from the government to live off and shelters to live in and council will provide housing eventually.

they could even rent a place and claim housing benefit so their rent gets paid, what more can you ask for. alhamdulilah we are blessed to have it so easy.
Click to expand...

Here in the USA homelessness is a major problem in every large city. Many people are not eligible for any benefits and there is a shortage of shelters. A disabled male,who is a USA citizen, between the ages of 18-65 will nearly always spend at least part of his life on the streets and homeless. Oddly a non-citizen seems to be more eligible for US benefits.
 
squiggle said:
my mum all ways says to me " don't give them, this is britain they have benefits from the government to live off and shelters to live in and council will provide housing eventually.

they could even rent a place and claim housing benefit so their rent gets paid, what more can you ask for. alhamdulilah we are blessed to have it so easy.
Click to expand...

My Grandad said that too when I was a kid.
I don't give money to homeless or beggars as they might be spending it on drugs.
 

Similar Threads

Back
Top