Sick and tired of BBC Syrian Propaganda !

[جوري]

and no, no one is manipulating the media since the videos come straight from Syrians themselves, and they're out there protesting, and no one is helping them. In fact Iran and hizbuAllah are sending in their mercenaries to complete the job... they're truly sharr barrya

 

[TruthLogic]

Anyone's salat or Hajj is not counted or discounted by people.
The prophet PBUH did say pray as you see me pray, and Shiites don't pray like he taught, nor perform hajj like he did, and he certainly didn't take the time to stand upon another Muslim's grave to curse them out.
Who you consider an excellent scholar is inconsequential. Scholarship isn't about parroting the words you want to hear, rather the truth whether or not you acquiesce to it is a different story and the same goes for whether or not you think shias are Muslim, they're free to be under that impression, they're simply not free to make that impression the consensus because it isn't!

best,

Ahhh you back -

The person who backs the destructions of syria , Iran and Hezbollah ( feel free to add any other Muslim group too the list )


Imran hossien : which part of what he says is " not the truth " ???
If you wish to imply he is a liar please give the explanation !

And as for calling him a parrot is just showing more of your self up .

Peace

And NO ! Again ! Only Allah swt can decide whose salah is valid
, which hajj , fast , zakat , shada will count !

NOT YOU ,
NOT ME
And defiantly NOT Google can tell us who is NOT a true Muslim !

This is a redicolus argument only found on the Internet , or possibly in some extreme circles !

I for one have never hears any one utter Shia are NOT muslims !
Like I said only Allah is the judge ?

 

[TruthLogic]

and no, no one is manipulating the media since the videos come straight from Syrians themselves, and they're out there protesting, and no one is helping them. In fact Iran and hizbuAllah are sending in their mercenaries to complete the job... they're truly sharr barrya

FACT : the biggest user of mercenries is the satanic west !

FACT : Saudi has put up 300 million of blood money which has surely attracted many Many mercenries ,

 

[جوري]

Ahhh you back -

I was never gone

The person who backs the destructions of syria , Iran and Hezbollah ( feel free to add any other Muslim group too the list )

I certainly don't wish destruction on Syria or its righteous Muslims.. I do however wish destruction on the despotic regime and its supporters in shaa Allah.

Imran hossien : which part of what he says is " not the truth " ???
If you wish to imply he is a liar please give the explanation !

we've a thread here on imran hussain and many have brought their reservation on how he sways from sunnah.. not saying everything he says is untrue, but there's much to discard.

And as for calling him a parrot is just showing more of your self up .

Where did I say imran Hussain is a parrot?

Peace

And NO ! Again ! Only Allah swt can decide whose salah is valid
, which hajj , fast , zakat , shada will count !

NOT YOU ,
NOT ME
And defiantly NOT Google can tell us who is NOT a true Muslim !

This is a redicolus argument only found on the Internet , or possibly in some extreme circles !

I for one have never hears any one utter Shia are NOT muslims !
Like I said only Allah is the judge ?

Indeed, Allah swt decides whose salat is valid.. hopefully those who are ignorant can learn and not so remain in the dark..

best,

 

[جوري]

FACT : the biggest user of mercenries is the satanic west !

FACT : Saudi has put up 300 million of blood money which has surely attracted many Many mercenries ,

Yup, they equally suck but it doesn't exempt Iran, HizbuAllah, China, Russia from far worse human rights abuses and ethnic cleansing.. so what is your point?
People who are revolting are well aware of that and trying to bring it to an end .. In shaa Allah, Allah swt will aid them east and west to establish true khilafah rashida on the path of the prophet.. not on the path of a persian empire or a satanic NATO one.. hopefully Saudis will muster enough courage to follow in that path..
right now if Jordanians would revolt and I think they're starting to, it would bring an end to Monarch rule or at least the start of the end of Monarchs and hopefully enable troops to go through its strategic location to bring a certain demise to the colonial settler state..

 

[TruthLogic]

Has anyone been to Syria? I mean how confident are you all in knowing what's going on? Please present evidence to support your views. If you have no evidence and just believe whatever you want to believe, your misleading yourself. And no, not secondary sources. How about primary sources for use as evidence. As in original government documentation, legislation or even video clips of what's going on. To rely on that person said the rebels are are backed by Saudi mini munchers who are supported by Iranians muffin munchers is all hearsay.

GOOD POINT :

And here in lies the obvious use of propaganda ,

All the western media reports rely on the LonDon bases Syrian human rights observatory , which give out selfconflicting daily reports in Syria ,
Yet no one knows how they get these reports !

The UN use this one man opertion for it's Syrian reports , the BBC uses the UN as a source , and all the rest of the western media use each other ,

Only recently has the BBC after over a year of pumping out Syrian propaganda has used the official Syrian government tallies of number of persons killed !


Basicaly they CAN apparely ONLY count the number of killed in Syria and forget how too add up when it comes too other conflict zones !

 

[TruthLogic]

Yup, they equally suck but it doesn't exempt Iran, HizbuAllah, China, Russia from far worse human rights abuses and ethnic cleansing.. so what is your point?
People who are revolting are well aware of that and trying to bring it to an end .. In shaa Allah, Allah swt will aid them east and west to establish true khilafah rashida on the path of the prophet.. not on the path of a persian empire or a satanic NATO one.. hopefully Saudis will muster enough courage to follow in that path..
right now if Jordanians would revolt and I think they're starting to, it would bring an end to Monarch rule or at least the start of the end of Monarchs and hopefully enable troops to go through its strategic location to bring a certain demise to the colonial settler state..

THE point WAS that your wrong on the mercenries part ! As it's more likely that NATO has sent it's mercenries too Syria !


As for your "plan " to usher in Khalifa !

I have a small issue with the siding with Isreal and isreals friends PART !

Sounds more like a NATO plot to use Muslims again !

Islam don't néed NATO no fly zones or protection or help to spread ! LIKE YOU ARE IMPLYING !
snap out of it !

 

[TruthLogic]

Good so we are in agreement !
Calling Shia NONE Muslim is WRONG !
We can't do Allah Job (. And yes even with the help of Google ;-)

 

[جوري]

well they're not Muslim, the prophet and the companions weren't shiites or Alwaites (so something to ponder).. read carefully what I wrote. I said they seem to be under that impression and expounded on why they are not!

now, if your house is on fire, are you more worried that someone will break through your front door, or of your dying kids inside?

Something to ponder because I sure as hell don't know where your priorities are...whether the reported death is 100 and is actually ten is an abomination beyond comprehension.
this is what Alwaite pigs are doing.. it is neither the BBC not Al jazeera.

Either way it doesn't matter to me what you believe or make believe. You can spread your shia agenda and bull crap until the cows come home.. In shaa Allah, Allah swt will yotim ni3matah wa yo'ayed be nasrihi sha3b syria wa yo7rir ahlaha min kul at'tugha..

ameen

 

[IslamicRevival]

I tend to agree. Most mainstream news channels are unreliable sources and cannot be trusted, they try and cover up the truth rather then speak the truth. I dont know whats going on in Syria and no one should pretend they know unless they've seen what is trully happening out there with their own eyes. We should be open minded and realise whats happening in Syria right now is no diferent to what happened in Libya...and we all know who was behind it all, NATO!

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

I tend to agree. Most mainstream news channels are unreliable sources and cannot be trusted, they try and cover up the truth rather then speak the truth. I dont know whats going on in Syria and no one should pretend they know unless they've seen what is trully happening out there with their own eyes. We should be open minded and realise whats happening in Syria right now is no diferent to what happened in Libya...and we all know who was behind it all, NATO!

Yep, i agree with this. You are on the right path Masha'Allah. How could we trust the ones who are responsible for the destroying of the khilafah? It was in world war 1 when it officialy ended. Also the same time of the balfour decleration.

From the east, from the west, from the north, from the south. From land, sea, and air.


The revivals is in my eyes much better then the arrivals since its more halal and from sunni view. Also its pretty good. What sis Bluebell said is true either, the caliphate was already weakened from the inside in which britain also played a role in by funding arabs from extreme-salafists movements to overthrow the caliphate. And it was france who gave Alewite power after they left.

 

[TruthLogic]

I tend to agree. Most mainstream news channels are unreliable sources and cannot be trusted, they try and cover up the truth rather then speak the truth. I dont know whats going on in Syria and no one should pretend they know unless they've seen what is trully happening out there with their own eyes. We should be open minded and realise whats happening in Syria right now is no diferent to what happened in Libya...and we all know who was behind it all, NATO!

The propaganda has been at a unprecedented high level , even aljazerera employes have left the station for it's continoius bias againt syria ,

Like pakistans Imran Khan says it's a information war ,

 

[TruthLogic]

well they're not Muslim, the prophet and the companions weren't shiites or Alwaites (so something to ponder).. read carefully what I wrote. I said they seem to be under that impression and expounded on why they are not!

now, if your house is on fire, are you more worried that someone will break through your front door, or of your dying kids inside?

Something to ponder because I sure as hell don't know where your priorities are...whether the reported death is 100 and is actually ten is an abomination beyond comprehension.
this is what Alwaite pigs are doing.. it is neither the BBC not Al jazeera.

to me what you believe or make believe. You can spread your shia agenda and bull crap until the cows come home.. In shaa Allah, Allah swt will yotim ni3matah wa yo'ayed be nasrihi sha3b syria wa yo7rir ahlaha min kul at'tugha..

ameen

Sister we are going around in circles and what you say is against the basic principles of islam !

Again NO NO NO! We do not posses the authority to class the Shia as NON MUSLIM !

Sure they have some issues , but the prophet has said many sects would form,

And using logic and common sense it's obvious the Shia issues will come too a stop once the Imam appears!

Our prophet was NOT a Sunni also !
Sects is what has devided us !

We are Muslim before anything else ,



And about the killing of Kids ,

The syrian army gets ZERO benefit from killing kids ,
Think about it !

However looking into world history it's obvious the satanists have in the past (eg south America ). Used death squads too bring down governments ,

 

[TruthLogic]

Another example of how the western media manipulates the Syrian story ,

1. They never or hardly use footage or reports from Syrian news channels ( even despite some Syrian news channels being broadcast in English )

 

[Cabdullahi]

According to what you are saying all sectarian issues will disappear when the mahdi comes...what if i told you they are waiting for another mahdi...a mahdi different to the real mahdi.

A fake mahdi?

If they're waiting for a fake mahdi,obviously the issue of sects wont go away so when will the issues of sects go away

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

This is the kurdish president of syrian national council:

Very clean shaved, hasnt a proper beard or hair, he looks very secular in my eyes. It doesnt look like he is from the muslim brotherhood at all. Make a smililarity with him and david cameron and you wont find differences except the skin color. Sorry, but if you think this guy can lead...i would think twice before choosing him, may Allah guide him. Ameen

He has this arrogant expression, dont know. But he chose himself to lead, not the people. You guys think i judge of the unseen but i cant even see the mark of prayer on his face.

I've just read report that syrian TV station got attacked. And that some staff members got executed. i dont know by who, but certainly not Assad since the syrian TV is still state-owned. possible SAS?

 

[syed_z]

Asalaam O Alaikum brothers and Sisters....


Brother Jedi hope your doing fine... and I hope you know that many Ottoman Caliphs were also clean shaved and had moustaches too and they were still ruling as Khalifas of the Ummah and their empire was Ottoman Khilafah as we all know it therefore the issue of beard or clean shave is not an issue at all, personally i dont think it is.

A muslim can have a long beard and could be corrupt and could be clean shaved and be a pious. So thats not an issue.


2nd of all we all know why Syria is facing unrest and why all the funding and training and weapons are being infiltrated from Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq because Syria is paying the price for its opposition to Israel and being in alliance of Iran and Russia (which means they are not allies of Saudi Arabia and USA/Israel) and therefore all the countries mentioned are working for USA/Israel and NATO to take Assad out. So lets face it that this is not an actual revolution any more now it has become an armed conflict in which groups are being funded with arms and weapons, many of whom are not even Syrians, who attack Syrian security forces.


3rd of all and this is also a fact that Syria is ruled by Alawite Shias who branch out from the main body of Shias and believe that Hazrat Ali (r.a) has divine qualities etc and therefore they are definitely misguided people. The Assads are a ruling family that has ruled like almost every other ruler of the Muslim world who is corrupt. They have no legitimacy to rule over the Syrians forcibly.


Therefore the Syrians started the revolution to take the Assads out but revolution has been hijacked by external forces just like the case of Libya.

 

[Jedi_Mindset]

Asalaam O Alaikum brothers and Sisters....


Brother Jedi hope your doing fine... and I hope you know that many Ottoman Caliphs were also clean shaved and had moustaches too and they were still ruling as Khalifas of the Ummah and their empire was Ottoman Khilafah as we all know it therefore the issue of beard or clean shave is not an issue at all, personally i dont think it is.

A muslim can have a long beard and could be corrupt and could be clean shaved and be a pious. So thats not an issue.


2nd of all we all know why Syria is facing unrest and why all the funding and training and weapons are being infiltrated from Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq because Syria is paying the price for its opposition to Israel and being in alliance of Iran and Russia (which means they are not allies of Saudi Arabia and USA/Israel) and therefore all the countries mentioned are working for USA/Israel and NATO to take Assad out. So lets face it that this is not an actual revolution any more now it has become an armed conflict in which groups are being funded with arms and weapons, many of whom are not even Syrians, who attack Syrian security forces.


3rd of all and this is also a fact that Syria is ruled by Alawite Shias who branch out from the main body of Shias and believe that Hazrat Ali (r.a) has divine qualities etc and therefore they are definitely misguided people. The Assads are a ruling family that has ruled like almost every other ruler of the Muslim world who is corrupt. They have no legitimacy to rule over the Syrians forcibly.


Therefore the Syrians started the revolution to take the Assads out but revolution has been hijacked by external forces just like the case of Libya.

This is what i was trying to say but as soon you post it you get labeled as a Assad supporter by people who cant place the puzzles together(Brainwashed by foreign media). Its for full spectrum dominance, they dont care about al-assad he is merely a pawn. Its a fact that groups for covert operations has done great influence on the uprising, its not just about Assad anymore its about to kill the entire alewite population. A very childish act by those scholars who support this, they're donkeys. The sunnah of prophet muhammed(Saw) is not shown here. The asseds started to killing civilians, doesnt mean you need to do the other way around.

This more then just al-assad killing protestors and oppostion killing alewites and gov supporters. Its both extremes fighting together. Saudi-extreme salafists (wahhabis) terror groups vs the alewite shirk infested pro-bashar gov.

Most syrians choose the side of the oppostion groups because they scream la ilaha ill Allah, what they dont know is that also the SNC and many groups have their own agenda. U are extremely right bro, when you say that some groups arent even syrians at all. This is disgusting towards the real oppostion.

There has been a report few days ago about around 40 germans smuggled weapons into syria, but i need to check upon that. They dont know that some FB and youtube accounts are created by CIA/zionists. Especially facebook, because its owned by CIA itself.

Willing to stand against the tide(the masses)?

 

[TruthLogic]

According to what you are saying all sectarian issues will disappear when the mahdi comes...what if i told you they are waiting for another mahdi...a mahdi different to the real mahdi.

A fake mahdi?

If they're waiting for a fake mahdi,obviously the issue of sects wont go away so when will the issues of sects go away

Not they or we

All of the Ummah is waiting for the one Imam,

Look brother , it's crazy too suggest that YOU can class Shia as NONE Muslims , ( thankfully this sort of crazy talk is limited too Internet were anonymity is guaranteed )

Now you say there will be TWO mahdis / imams !

Come on please screw your head on correctly before logging onto the forum,

How many Sunni do you think will follow the Imam ?


And yes it's garanteed
That the SHIA must stop cracking their heads on swords as the Imam will put a stop too that ,

It's logical too also assume all Muslims will also start to pray as tue Imam will and all differences will be vanquished ,

Yes I am aware that Shia believe that the Imam is already alive and is hidden by Allah swt will

We believe the imam is alive and living and will be revealed ,

Only Allah swt knows best

 

[جوري]

Again NO NO NO! We do not posses the authority to class the Shia as NON MUSLIM !

All the scholars have already so qualified them along with despotic regime.
Your feelings and their impression isn't what plays a factor in this.
To begin with a Muslim who raises a weapon in another Muslims's face has already committed kuffr.