Sick and tired of BBC Syrian Propaganda !

[Jedi_Mindset]

Walhi you tickle me with your logorrhea, jabs at what I read and the avalanche of conspiracy videos-- you know what you've convinced me of all the dung.. I'll go make that call to the rebels to disable them & convince them to stay at home and be killed by direct air strike from the Bashar forces.
As Ali ibn Abu taib said: "Whenever I argue with a fool, I lose"

best,

No they can keep their weapons, until they stop paving a way for western intervention. Saturday is your day, they're gonna hold a conference on syria worldwide.

I am not foolish, its you who are

1# misunderstanding
2# al-jazeera rethoric
3# forcing everyone to bow down to your opinion
4# everyone who is anti-west is a pro - assad supporter. dont rely on the west, rely on Allah

Dont use the sayings of Ali(Ra) in your own emotions, thats a direct insult to him(Ra). When the west invades we are gonna see who was right

 

[جوري]

, have you ever met a muslim in real life who would like too see the downfall of Syria , Iran and Hezbollah ?

I certainly don't wish destruction on Syria or its righteous Muslims.. I do however wish destruction on the despotic regime and its supporters in shaa Allah.

http://www.islamicboard.com/general/134313856-sick-tired-bbc-syrian-propaganda-5.html#post1528397

Like I said, you need to work on your reading & comprehension. I don't understand half of the crap you're vomiting here and the other half is preposterous.
I'll give you this much, your ability to spam is admirable!

best,

 

[جوري]

No they can keep their weapons, until they stop paving a way for western intervention. Saturday is your day, they're gonna hold a conference on syria worldwide.

I am not foolish, its you who are

1# misunderstanding
2# al-jazeera rethoric
3# forcing everyone to bow down to your opinion
4# everyone who is anti-west is a pro - assad supporter. dont rely on the west, rely on Allah

Dont use the sayings of Ali(Ra) in your own emotions, thats a direct insult to him(Ra). When the west invades we are gonna see who was right

I sure hope your milatonic mind can sustain you until saturday
You've to admit the Ali ibn Abu talib quote really hits the bull's eye .. Feel free to add to your ammo for your future critics, as you seem to recycle the same rhetoric somehow we could have abridged the course of this funny thread into three lines of the same between you and your pal, the rest is a fantastic form of introspection...
lastly it isn't about opinion or bowing down you fool.. this isn't the arcade. We're not playing a video game for a win or lose.. What was I expecting otherwise treating you like an adult, engaging you when it appears you've barely toilet trained..

 

[GuestFellow]

I'm confused. What are the disagreements between members?

The focus of the topic is about Syria and how the BBC reports the events that unfold. All media organisations are biased to a certain extent, even sources made by Muslims. Bias can be intentional or unintentional. We need to consider that it is difficult to report events that are changing on a regular basis. Reporters have little time to cover what's really going on and the general public are busy enough with their own lives and do not have the time to investigate these events. Under these circumstances, it is difficult to obtain information.

Now I assume this topic is about establishing that the BBC is producing propaganda material. If this was true, then I suspect other people would have noticed this too and would not be reluctant to point this point. In the past, BBC impartiality has been questioned, even by groups that the public perceive to be the right wing.

Can anyone actually show how BBC is launching some sort of propaganda campaign about Syria? Let's define the term propaganda as a starting point:

Information, ideas, opinions or images, often only giving one part of an argument, which are broadcast, published or in some other way spread with the intention of influencing people's opinions

Source:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/propaganda?q=propaganda

Present evidence for your arguments. This evidence that actually proves that the BBC is full of propaganda. Imagine if BBC reporters were confronted with your evidence, would they be able to explain there way out of this?

 

[جوري]

I'm confused. What are the disagreements between members?

They seem to be under the impression that I am in contact with Syrian rebels and otherwise behind the 'Arab Spring' also solely responsible for the death of Gaddafi, and Saddam and their fall from power.. and that by opposing HizbuAllah gorillas, Iran mercenaries who were caught in Syria killing Sunnis and not siding with Russia's decision to send planes on ships to arm the Assad forces against civilians or China's vetoes (both nations with horrible abuses toward Muslim and frankly at war with Chechen who are Muslim and should be inspired by all this to oppose Russia) that I am pro NATO and that I wield the power to stop NATO from coming in simply by accepting the videos they post here as factual.

That's it in a nutshell..

 

[IslamicRevival]

All the scholars have already so qualified them along with despotic regime.
Your feelings and their impression isn't what plays a factor in this.
To begin with a Muslim who raises a weapon in another Muslims's face has already committed kuffr.

Which Scholars? The majority of Muslims classify Shia as Muslims, albeit misguided and its been this way for decades. Yes there are some who have extreme views which totally contradict the teachings of Islam but you cant judge every single Shia based on the actions of a minority. Shia are Muslim and nothing less, If they werent, the Ummah would universally accept them as such, just like we universally accept Qadyani's as being Non Muslim.

 

[TruthLogic]

Sister :

Allah swt has condemned those who use these kaffirs as protecters !

We have several warnings in the holy Quran !

The rebels ( a part of them at least ). The Saudi regime fall into this catagorie !

Your thoughts ??

 

[جوري]

Sister :

Allah swt has condemned those who use these kaffirs as protecters !

We have several warnings in the holy Quran !

The rebels ( a part of them at least ). The Saudi regime fall into this catagorie !

Your thoughts ??

The Syrian regime is also kaffir, and thus the rebels and the folks on the streets aren't taking it for protectors- Iran/china/Russia are also kaffirs that we shouldn't take for protectors (especially given their history against Muslims).. When you speak of kaffir protectors it should apply to all kaffirs not selective kaffirs like the 'saudi regime'.It applies to Inside and out kaffirs.. Hope that clarifies things for you.

best,

 

[TruthLogic]

Which Scholars? The majority of Muslims classify Shia as Muslims, albeit misguided and its been this way for decades. Yes there are some who have extreme views which totally contradict the teachings of Islam but you cant judge every single Shia based on the actions of a minority. Shia are Muslim and nothing less, If they werent, the Ummah would universally accept them as such, just like we universally accept Qadyani's as being Non Muslim.

Bro like it or not Iran Syria and Hezbollah are the only muslim forces in the middle east standing in the way of total Zionist domination of the middle east ,

The satanists whish too remove these obstacles ,

And some muslims have jumped on board ,

Just like how the Arabs helped too destroy the khalifa

The same is happening today with Syria and Iran !

And no I am not a Shia , but I can see past the sects !

We have more that unifies us , than the small issues which devide us ,


Any Shia here as I wish to discuss some of their practices .??

 

[جوري]

The majority of Muslims classify Shia as Muslims

No, they don't!
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[TruthLogic]

The Syrian regime is also kaffir, and thus the rebels and the folks on the streets aren't taking it for protectors- Iran/china/Russia are also kaffirs that we shouldn't take for protectors (especially given their history against Muslims).. When you speak of kaffir protectors it should apply to all kaffirs not selective kaffirs like the 'saudi regime'.It applies to Inside and out kaffirs.. Hope that clarifies things for you.

best,

Sister you can't spin the Quran to suite your agenda !

You can't lable hundreds of millions of Shia os none Muslims , we've been through that ,

Quran commands "Muslils " not too take these none believers as protectors !

That applies too Saudi allied with USA
Turky allied with NATO
Libyan rebels allied with NATO
And the same with some or most Syrian rebels

 

[Cabdullahi]

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/forgery.html

^surat al walayah and surat al nurayn try to find it in your quran.

 

[TruthLogic]

Guess the sister had the anti Shia propaganda at the ready ,?

 

[جوري]

Sister you can't spin the Quran to suite your agenda !

You can't lable hundreds of millions of Shia os none Muslims , we've been through that ,

Quran commands "Muslils " not too take these none believers as protectors !

That applies too Saudi allied with USA
Turky allied with NATO
Libyan rebels allied with NATO
And the same with some or most Syrian rebels

In what way are Saudis kaffir and Assad Muslim? per Quran that is perhaps you can elucidate the exclusion in his case and that of Iran/China/Russia with some verses?
furthermore, I don't care what impression the shiites are under, their judgement lies with Allah.. The prophet and the Quran spoke against Shiism(divisions) schisms and altering the religion or rituals. I have already quoted the verse on the matter in the previous page which you can re-visit as I so hate repeating myself. And you can see the scholars speak against them and you can also see the fatwas on top.

best,

 

[Cabdullahi]

Sister you can't spin the Quran to suite your agenda !

You can't lable hundreds of millions of Shia os none Muslims , we've been through that ,

Quran commands "Muslils " not too take these none believers as protectors !

That applies too Saudi allied with USA
Turky allied with NATO
Libyan rebels allied with NATO
And the same with some or most Syrian rebels

Syria with russia and china
Iran with russia and china

I told you to bring proof...the doctor has brought her proof as to why shias are not considered muslim, its your turn now, which is overdue, to bring evidences to back up your statements.

 

[جوري]

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/forgery.html

^surat al walayah and surat al nurayn try to find it in your quran.

Got to stop that agenda now, got to stop the agenda that they don't curse the prophet and sahabis, that they don't curse Saida Aisha, got to stop the propaganda against zawaj al'mut3a, got to stop it against the sunnis they slay every day, stop it against their personal Safavid interests for the Muslim world.

 

[TruthLogic]

[]

^surat al walayah and surat al nurayn try to find it in your quran.

Wow we scraping the barrel Here aren't we

Desperate lies

Now the Shia belive in another Quran !

Cough !!!

Complete utter lies !

All Muslims belive the Quran is yeh complete unchanged book of Allah

It's wrong to spread lies bro !

 

[جوري]

Wow we scraping the barrel Here aren't we

Desperate lies

Now the Shia belive in another Quran !

Cough !!!

Complete utter lies !

All Muslims belive the Quran is yeh complete unchanged book of Allah

It's wrong to spread lies bro !

There are all kinda of shia that run the gamut (they compose 10%) of Musims.. some are close to Sunnis, those of them are the ones in Lebanon and though they call themselves shia they follow traditional Islam, the rest run the gamut from tho who believe Ali should have been first khalif to those who worship him all together to those who believe in reincarnation, to those who believe in other prophets, to those who cut verses out of the Quran, to those who add suras to the Quran, to those who worship the Quran. If you're not a traditional Muslim from Ahel As'sunna wal'jama3a, then you're shia which by its very definition means 'faction' Islam isn't OK with factions so it doesn't matter to which faction you belong if you're not Muslim you're shiaa..

best,

 

[Cabdullahi]

Wow we scraping the barrel Here aren't we

Desperate lies

Now the Shia belive in another Quran !

Cough !!!

Complete utter lies !

All Muslims belive the Quran is yeh complete unchanged book of Allah

It's wrong to spread lies bro !

http://www.discoveringislam.org/quran_distortion_tahreef.htm

Unfortunately, classical Shia books discuss "Tahreef" (Distortion of the Quran) theory in which they question the completeness and accuracy and make the allegation that the Quran has been wilfully distorted because the present Quran does not contain evidence that supports the core doctrines of Shiism, most importantly, the Imamate doctrine.

- The Quran has been purposely altered by the drunkard Caliphs {Abu-Bakr (r.a), Umar (r.a) and Usman (r.a)}; The present Quran is false; It’s the duty of Imam Mehdi (Shia's 12th Imam) to bring it in its original form; When Imam Mahdi comes, then the Quran will be recited in its original form. (Quran Translation by Maqbool Hussain Delhvi, Chap.12, p. 384 & p.479 – Published in India)

- Original Quran will not be known until the manifestation of Imam Mahdi (Shia’s 12th Imam). (Anwaar-ul-Na'umania, Vol. 2, p. 360 - Published in Iran)

- The present Quran is abridged whereas the Original Quran is kept by Imam Mahdi." (Hazaar Tumhari Das Hamari, p. 553)

- No one possesses complete knowledge of the Quran except the Imams. (Usool Kaafi, Vol. 1, p. 228)

- After the death of Holy Prophet (s.a.w), the original Quran was in the custody of Ali (r.a) and he brought it to Abu-Bakr (r.a), but Abu Bakr refused to allow this original version. That is why Muslim Ummah was deprived of original Quran. (Sheikh-e-Saqifah, p. 138 – Published in Pakistan)

- Shaikhain (Abu Bakr & Omar) refused to accept the Quran which was compiled by Ali (r.a). (Fasal-ul-Khitab, p. 64)

- Insult to the Holy Quran. (Tohfa-tul-Awaam, Vol. 2, p. 293)

- The Quran descended (was revealed) in four parts, whereas present Quran consists of three parts. (Shia Aur Tehreef-e-Quran, p. 62)

- The present Quran is in an altered, corrupted and distorted form.. (Fatuhat-e-Shia, p. 129)

- An acceptance of the belief that the Quran has been altered. Shia accuse Abu Bakr (r.a) of being involved in the alteration. (Ayat-ul-Qaloob, Vol. 2, p. 832)

 

[TruthLogic]

[]

^surat al walayah and surat al nurayn try to find it in your quran.

Wow we scraping the barrel Here aren't we

Desperate lies

Now the Shia belive in another Quran !

Cough !!!

Complete utter lies !

All Muslims belive the Quran is yeh complete unchanged book of Allah

It's wrong to spread lies bro !