منوة الخيال;1528688 said:No, they don't!
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[TD="align: left"]Distortion of the Qur’aan by the Raafidis .[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]She loves a man who is not a Sunni and wants to marry him.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Who was the first khaleefah and what is the story of Ghadeer Khum?.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]An Ismaili is asking about the differences between us and them.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Ruling on praying behind a Shi’i.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Refutation of one who casts aspersions upon Saheeh al-Bukhaari.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Is it imitating the Raafidis to let the arms hang by one's side when one is tried?.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]A brief look at Baabism and Baha’ism.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]What the Shi’ah do on ‘Ashoora’ is bid’ah (innovation) and misguidance.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]The status of the imams of the Ithna ‘Ashari Shi’ah.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Ruling on calling a child Momin (Mu’min).[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]Discussion of the hadeeth, “The Qadariyyah are the Magians of this ummah”.[/TD]
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[TD="align: left"]A Sunni who is influenced by what the Raafidis say and is confused about what is true and correct.[/TD]
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One scholar doesnt speak for 1.5 Billion Muslims. The facts are Muslims, as an Ummah have never declared Shia as Non Muslims. If they were universally declared as Non Muslim as you say then why are/have they been allowed to perform Umrah/Hajj? Why are they allowed to step foot in the blessed cities of Makkah and Madinah? Yes, you have the odd group who consider Shia as Non Muslims but they do not speak for all of us. Shia are Misguided, no doubt about it but they are Muslim in the eyes of most Muslims, those are are the facts whether we like it or not . Most of the Q and A links you posted are referring to an extreme group of Shia so we really shouldn't be so quick to label all Shia Non Muslim.
If you dont belong to Ahlus sunnah wal jammah you belong to every sect or atleast take it to the extreme level. This includes wahhabis (Under disguise extremist-salafis). You claim they dont exist, the creator of the sect was a traitor and shook hands with british spies.
In the 12th century there was even a war between muslims and people from najd, the people of najd got defeated. Now the house of saud + their wahhabi movements rose form there. Now i take it to the next level
''If you dont belong to Ahlus sunnah wal jammah you are shia''
what the bloody hell for arguments are that?
This a shaykh i want to take bayyat from, he speaks gentle and soft, is from yemen and is sunni. Noor shines on his face Masha'Allah
Now i take it to the next level right? What if it was meant that both extremist factions (alewites and wahhabis) were meant to clash with each other and to cause further on more disunity in our ummah? KSA has already admitted that they sent men+ weapons into syria.
In 1953 the CIA staged terror attacks and a propaganda campaign against the people of Iran.
We gunned down civilians, blew up school buses and mosques!
Then we blamed it on Muhammed Mossadeq and even dropped pamphlets from the air. Down with Allah, up with Mossadeq.
This started a successful coup and he was removed.
منوة الخيال;1528709 said:That's not one scholar I assure you.. We're not responsible for how shias view themselves and I pray to Allah swt to aid those of them with the right intentions to the right path.. As I have personally been working on three shiite friends to no avail, They still pray only three times if at all observant, they still hold on to magical beliefs and still curse or at least point out what they perceive as 'flaws'
If you're not from ahel as'sunnah then you're a shia and I have gone over a brief definition and have already quoted the noble Quran:
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Indeed, those who have divided their religion and become sects - you, [O Muhammad], are not [associated] with them in anything. Their affair is onlyto Allah ; then He will inform them about what they used to do.
and tons of other verses on the matter.. willful ignorance isn't an excuse especially when seeking knowledge specifically Islamic knowledge is obligatory on every Muslim. I'd understand in the case of some poor villagers with major economic and geopolitical problems that they're raised and die on what they know and don't sway as the prophet PBUH used to seek refuge from the three things, disease, poverty and ignorance as they go hand in hand.. but what is the excuse of these will to do folks with access to books and a free mind to discern?
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He's a sufi?
And what does that mean to you personally that one of 73 is on the right path? since I fail to see the contradiction in my statement.. Rather what you've just posted affirms it.Its well known the Ummah will eventually split in to 73 sects and only one will be on the true path
in adherence of Ali ibn Abu talib's wisdom I'll not waste my time much further... I"l however post a map of Jordan for folks to decide if being surrounded by Iraq, Saudi, Egypt, Palestine, Syria and Israel is more strategic or if your state of amentia (in any of what you write) has some semblance of truth or reality, common sense or even a remote strateg thought!you claimed that jordan was a more strategic location? wrong
منوة الخيال;1528856 said:
And what does that mean to you personally that one of 73 is on the right path? since I fail to see the contradiction in my statement.. Rather what you've just posted affirms it.
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If you're not from ahel as'sunnah then you're a shia
منوة الخيال;1528858 said:This forum is taking a sad turn from Aqeedah.. rather than steering folks to the straight & narrow we create an umbrella under which all forms of deviance is considered virtuous... sob7an Allah...
منوة الخيال;1528862 said:Quran & sunnah aren't opinion, they're the essence of Islam. If you desire another path you're welcome to it!
Sorry to say but its this sort of self righteous attitude which has destroyed the Ummah. Calling people who disagree with your way of thinking Deviants, Non Muslim, Pigs etc etc is hateful, if you think this is the way to 'steer folks to the straight and narrow path' then may Allah help us all.
I will sign off with posting this beautiful Nasheed and hopefully we can all learn a thing or two about how we should behave towards one other.
Indeed and thank you for confirming me it with the hadith you shared!You claimed
Show me that he taught that it is OK to split with factions and I'll gladly eat my statements up!How can you only be either Shia (Non Muslim) or part of Ahles Sunnah when its well known the' Ummah' (All Muslim) will split in to 73 sects? Its totally contradictory to what our Nabi Peace Be Upon Him taught us.
Again, not about my way of thinking it about deviating from Quran & sunnah, I reference you to my earlier posts (with direct quotes from the Quran) and the hadith you yourself were so generous as to share.Sorry to say but its this sort of self righteous attitude which has destroyed the Ummah. Calling people who disagree with your way of thinking Deviants, Non Muslim, Pigs etc etc is hateful, if you think this is the way to 'steer folks to the straight and narrow path' then may Allah help us all.
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