Sikhism

[AvarAllahNoor]

hi

today I saw a Sikh man belong
walking along
wearing an orange turban
with a red shirt on

my mind instantly associatively connected he
with the Dreaming belonging to King Solomon
of phoenix strong
Why?

true this is happening to me
despite being in poetry
what is it his dress has signified in reality?

thanking all answers formally before framed of kind of mind
Sikhi truly the believing
but why?

Is a long kind of try
to explain this day of my
wonderment that I
but for the last every prophesy
is that repeating kind
never ending until fulfilling
so shall I?

Alaykumuassalamu wa Ramathuallahi wa Rabarakathuhu

Once again your post confuses me sister.

 

[sikh]

hi i m a sikh..or may b i m not , because with what guru nanak dev jee said , it is too difficult to be either a hindu, a muslim or a sikh. Guru Nanak Dev ji wasn't a hindu or a muslim, he said " na hum hindu na musalman"..... i registered myself here at the forums , to make a simple request , i've observed that a lot of people would simply debate forever and do a little with what allah tells us . sikh kepp meditating not for five times but believe u me 24 hrs, they don't bother at all as to what other people have to say about their religion or other things, they will keep on praying . i've knowm muslims, who were close to Guru Nanak ... and all that they were interested in was praising lord........ if i said anything that hurt ya people , i m sorry , i will try to give u atleast a clear picture of what sikhism is all about.
thanks
a sikh
still learning

 

[Muhammad]

Greetings sikh,

Welcome to the forum. Unfortunately, I have removed your posts in this thread as I felt that they were breaking our forum rule:

#15. Promoting Religions other than Islam:
While interfaith discussions are allowed, promoting another religion is not allowed on the discussion board. This discussion board was created to promote Islam, not another religion. There are many other discussion boards on the Web which you can promote your religion other than Islam.

This thread is about answering questions about Sikhism and having discussions of this nature. It is not for blatant "promoting" of the religion.

Thank you for your cooperation .

 

[sikh]

Once again your post confuses me sister.

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih bhain jee

some of my posts were deleted bhain jee i got a message saying that my posts have been deleted but bhain jee i wasnt promoting anything bhain jee,
i was writing it from all my heart and i said the truth ,,,,,, to the posters here i have to say something,, i may never post here again coz i was trying to throw light on what sikhism is and how we too love muslims but thats just not on i would rather pray then sit on my pc for an hour and then see posts deleted ....
i was rather carefull that i should not write anything which'll make anybody upset ...... why was this done ...but yes it is allah's raza and looks like i dun feel like being over here
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih

 

[sikh]

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih jee
i was upset , anyway i love u all
u know m a member of forums which r so very bful sikh forums , and they never edit anything even posted by muslims and they believe that everone should be allowed to say truth , and i was doing just that . I look forward to atleast explained in detail as to what is propmoting>>> so that i can b cautious about the same
still learning
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih jee

 

[Muhammad]

Greetings,

I am sorry if that is how you feel, but I feel that you are going too far into how you feel about Sikhism to the extent that you are promoting it, as opposed to simply explaining and throwing light on it.

This is not to say that we cannot maintain a peaceful relationship on the forum and engage in much discussion, so I hope you will stay with us.

Peace.

P.S. We do not edit things based upon religion, rather we edit according to our forum rules which can be viewed here:

http://www.islamicboard.com/faq/forum-rules/#faq_liforum_rules

 

[sikh]

veer jee.. i just said please do encourage anyone u see or meet to do repeated simran of either allah or waheguroo or raam (upto u)... but its important we should be reciting allah or waheguru or raam all the time...and one thing which i added was that ...many people believe that sikhism is the same as hinduism but in gurbaani paatshah made very clear that raam being talked abt is not of the same clad as seeta and all but the raam who recites and resides in all....
do u still think i m promoting ..anyway ...god bless us all...
kamaal ai karaamatay kaayam kareem
still learning
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih jee

 

[Muhammad]

Hello again,

veer jee.. i just said please do encourage anyone u see or meet to do repeated simran of either allah or waheguroo or raam (upto u)... but its important we should be reciting allah or waheguru or raam all the time...

Well this is just the problem, you see, I don't believe in "simran" or "waheguroo", so I am not going to encourage anyone to read those. I would only encourage repeated recitation and reflection on the Qur'an. By asking people to do what you have just said, you are promoting sikhism because not everybody believes in those scriptures. We respect your right to believe in them of course, and we don't mind discussing them, but there is no need for any of this "encouragement".

and one thing which i added was that ...many people believe that sikhism is the same as hinduism but in gurbaani paatshah made very clear that raam being talked abt is not of the same clad as seeta and all but the raam who recites and resides in all....

That's fine. Thank you for clarifying your beliefs .

Peace.

 

[sikh]

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih jee
waheguru
u made urself clear .My intention was that if anybody is muslim , he may say allah, or if somebody is hindu .. he may say raam.
i m stupid
still learning
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih jee

 

[Muhammad]

Greetings,

Thank you again for understanding. I see what you are saying now and I am sorry if I misunderstood you before. Let us all strive hard to please God.

Peace .

 

[sikh]

he is our living guru . we refer to him as not "it".. sorry
still learning
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih jee

Sorry if i haven't been asking in a respectful manner, i been trying. Apologies

Surely if Sikhism is for all mankind then it is for muslims too :?


See you have a common misconception. Muslims have 3 types of prayers. Theres the formal prayer where we prostrate etc 5 times a day. Now that is a command from God to pray 5 times a day, and since most likely most muslims will be praying he has ordained that wer have a common direction to pray in, it is a Kiblah- a direction. Even if somehow God forbid it was blown up or something, we would still be praying in that direction. People in mecca in the msoque around Kabah sometimes pray on the top floor where it is above Kabah, so they aren't even looking at it, but they are praying in that direction for unity since everyone else also is and simply because God has ordered nus to do it. If God was to order us to do otherwise we would pray in another direction. In fact Muslims at the beginning used to pray to Musjid Al Aqsa in Jerusalem, all of them, as it was a direction for that time and for purposes of unity they all had a common direction to face. It later got abbrogated anmd now they all face Mecca

Now we have two other forms of worship that we havent been commanded to do by God at all. And nowhere does it say for them that you have to face Kabah. These two other forms of worship are Dua and Dhikr. In ours Duas we just pray directly to God in our own language raising our hands up. In Dhikr of Allah we just praise God continuously. Now surely if Kabah was the residing place of God we would also have to face Kabah for that. But since its not obligatory to do these prayers, its unlilely others will be doing them same time as you so unity doesn't exist so no need to pray in that direction

Now back to your point about Guru Nanek. No man in his right mind would have said God lives in kabah. Only children at a youbng age believe that. Even muslims with the lowest IQs today will know God doesn't physically live there. Now what i think happened was the Arabs got offended by Nanak for pointing his feet towards the Kabah. In arab culture even today its offensive and disrespectful to point your feet at someone. And since we consider the Kabah to be holy its disliked to point our feet at it.
Now how about the SGGS. You put that at a high place don't you. Why don't you put it on the floor? Does God reside there? Of course not, but yet you still treat it with respect and have it at a high place

 

[sikh]

And Guru Nanak Ji received just that, but not via an angel, but directly from God.

We do not believe in the Guru as a form of worship he uttered the words of God. And God is what we worship!

waheguru ... gur parmesar eko jaan..jo tis bhavai so parwaan.. ehna samajh nahee lagnee..but aapan tan sach uchaarnaa hai na

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Hey I can understand you. i get Avar, dont worry

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih bhain jee

some of my posts were deleted bhain jee i got a message saying that my posts have been deleted but bhain jee i wasnt promoting anything bhain jee,
i

Keri teri bainjee?? I'm a bloke Khalsa ji!

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

Hey I can understand you. i get Avar, dont worry

I go away for a few days and we have a newbie :giggling:

 

[sikh]

dhan guru teg bahadar saheb
waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fataih bhai saheb jee
veer ji u a member with ss or waheguroo forums?

 

[AvarAllahNoor]

waheguru ... gur parmesar eko jaan..jo tis bhavai so parwaan.. ehna samajh nahee lagnee..but aapan tan sach uchaarnaa hai na

lol Haan veeera!

Bani Sat Sat Kar Jano Gursikho Har Karta App Muh Kadai

(Know The Verses To Be True, Because The Creator Himself Makes Me Utter Them)

 

[PCJS]

Greetings sikh,

Welcome to the forum. Unfortunately, I have removed your posts in this thread as I felt that they were breaking our forum rule:

#15. Promoting Religions other than Islam:
While interfaith discussions are allowed, promoting another religion is not allowed on the discussion board. This discussion board was created to promote Islam, not another religion. There are many other discussion boards on the Web which you can promote your religion other than Islam.

This thread is about answering questions about Sikhism and having discussions of this nature. It is not for blatant "promoting" of the religion.

Thank you for your cooperation .

If you don't believe in promoting any other religion, what makes you think that you have right to talk about religions?

 

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

Thats forum rules...and hes the moderator...
like he said, other religions can come up during dialogues. Theres a difference in talking about it and promoting it.

 

[PCJS]

Thats forum rules...and hes the moderator...
like he said, other religions can come up during dialogues. Theres a difference in talking about it and promoting it.

You must not discus other religions unless you know absolute truth about other religions. Revealing the truth about other religions is same as promoting other religions. So since one is not allowed to promote other religions, it's unlikely that truth can be revealed about other religions.

I don't think it would be allowed in Islam to discuss something you don't know the absolute truth about. So you might be going against Islam by allowing people to discuss something they don't know absolute truth about.

I would also like to know why ISDhillon is not allowed to post anymore here.