Sikhism

AvarAllahNoor said:
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh (Pure ones Belong to God, and Victory to God)[/

No Sikh has EVER insulted a prophet of another, unless provoked. It's the law of nature to retalitate. We have nothing against Mohammed (Pbuh) OR Jesus. as were all representatives of the Lord God! - Now read through the thread and stop repeating yourself brother!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

(Pure ones Belong to God, and Victory to God)
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I think you may need to read the thread again, beacuse you are having difficulty remembering what you said. Do you not admit to syaing that the prophet Muhammed (pbuh) changed the decree of Allah (SWT)? i can find you the quotes if you want me to (May take some time though)

Also if you retaliate, you must have some negative things to say! So much for having nothing against the prohets of God.
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
O Sikhs of the Guru, know that the Word of the True Guru, is true, absolutely true. The Creator Lord Himself causes the Guru to chant it. (Guru Granth Sahib, 308)

I seriously doubt you're a Sikh 'revert' but continue with false information you have on Sikh and all shall be refuted (like it's not been done throughout this thread :rollseyes )
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Doubt it all you want. Please explain to me where my information is false. My sources are SIkh's themselves! Unless you think the Professor of the University of Sikh studies in Harrow, UK may have got it wrong! I have spoken to many Sikh Amritshak (baptised) people on the subject aswell.
 
Hanif_Revert said:
Sikhs dont believe in rituals. Exept the marrigae ritual, the funeral rituals, the Akhand path rituals etc. etc.
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Sorry, i made an error so please forgive me - Sikhs dont believe in 'Blind' rituals. Like Fasting because apparently it has no meaning!!

I would like to draw the Sikh peoples attention to the following site which indicates the benifets of fasting

http://al-islam.org/beliefs/practices/fasting/4.html

This is my first Ramadan and Alhamdulillah i am realising the benifets already.
 
Hanif_Revert said:
I think you may need to read the thread again, beacuse you are having difficulty remembering what you said. Do you not admit to syaing that the prophet Muhammed (pbuh) changed the decree of Allah (SWT)? i can find you the quotes if you want me to (May take some time though)

Also if you retaliate, you must have some negative things to say! So much for having nothing against the prohets of God.
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Indeed i did, that's my justification for making these claims, as Sikhism was insulted! - Can you see me doing it now!
 
Hanif_Revert said:
If you want some information on what the Sikh belief of the afterlife is visit -

http://www.info-sikh.com/KhandPage1.html

Im sure it gies an accurate enough description. im sure our Sikh friends will inform us otherwise.
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Sach Khand alternatively spelt Sac Khand is the Sikh concept of Salvation or Liberation from the cycle of birth and rebirth in Samsara. It is achieved by the Guru's Grace and through meditation and Simran, remembering the Divine.
 
Hanif_Revert said:
Sorry, i made an error so please forgive me - Sikhs dont believe in 'Blind' rituals. Like Fasting because apparently it has no meaning!!

I would like to draw the Sikh peoples attention to the following site which indicates the benifets of fasting

http://al-islam.org/beliefs/practices/fasting/4.html

This is my first Ramadan and Alhamdulillah i am realising the benifets already.
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It's wondefull you're experiencing the benefits!

After all we only pursue a religion we benefit from. :)
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Sach Khand alternatively spelt Sac Khand is the Sikh concept of Salvation or Liberation from the cycle of birth and rebirth in Samsara. It is achieved by the Guru's Grace and through meditation and Simran, remembering the Divine.
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So explain what happens to me if i dont reach Sach khand before I die?
 
Hanif_Revert said:
So explain what happens to me if i dont reach Sach khand before I die?
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Reincarnation. But to avoid this......

Guru Nanak advised his followers to end the cycle of reincarnation by living a disciplined life – that is, by moderating egoism and sensuous delights, to live in a balanced worldly manner, and by accepting ultimate reality. Thus, the cycle of reincarnation can be broken, and the Sikh can remain in the abode of the Love of God. Guru Nanak taught that salvation does not mean entering paradise after a last judgment, but a union and absorption into God, the True Name.

Scientific discovery today, provides rigorous scientific reasoning to show how reincarnation is the only viable explanation . Do some research, and it'll show it's not refutable. And neither what God says.

Plus.....

Another great mystic, Mansur al-Hallaj, famous for his formulation, Anal Haq (I am the truth: Aham Brahmo Asmi) wrote:

Like the herbage
I have sprung up many a time
On the banks of flowing rivers.
For a hundred thousand years
I have lived and worked
In every sort of body.

The Koran itself seems quite clear: "And you were dead, and He brought you back to life. And He shall cause you to die, and shall bring you back to life, and in the end shall gather you unto Himself." (2:28). The words "you were dead" can only mean that they had lived before becoming dead. And the words "in the end shall gather you unto Himself" could very well mean the attainment of moksha (release) rather than an eternal life in heaven or hell. 2002)

Refute this??
 
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AvarAllahNoor said:
Reincarnation. But to avoid this......

Guru Nanak advised his followers to end the cycle of reincarnation by living a disciplined life – that is, by moderating egoism and sensuous delights, to live in a balanced worldly manner, and by accepting ultimate reality. Thus, the cycle of reincarnation can be broken, and the Sikh can remain in the abode of the Love of God. Guru Nanak taught that salvation does not mean entering paradise after a last judgment, but a union and absorption into God, the True Name.

Scientific discovery today, provides rigorous scientific reasoning to show how reincarnation is the only viable explanation . Do some research, and it'll show it's not refutable. And neither what God says.
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So why are people born again as plants or tree's? Or any other creature for that matter?

I dont see any science in reincarnation. Much of the 'remembering past lives' can be explained by the existince of jinn
 
Hanif_Revert said:
So why are people born again as plants or tree's? Or any other creature for that matter?

I dont see any science in reincarnation. Much of the 'remembering past lives' can be explained by the existince of jinn
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Well if carrying out the above i mentioned will keep me from reincarnation, how do you think people are reborn again?! It's very simple and if you were a 'Sikh' you'd know!

BTW - The latter is your opinion and not a fact!
 
AvarAllahNoor said:



The Koran itself seems quite clear: "And you were dead, and He brought you back to life. And He shall cause you to die, and shall bring you back to life, and in the end shall gather you unto Himself." (2:28). The words "you were dead" can only mean that they had lived before becoming dead. And the words "in the end shall gather you unto Himself" could very well mean the attainment of moksha (release) rather than an eternal life in heaven or hell. 2002)[/COLOR]

Refute this??
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Dead simply means 'not alive' - Dont try to give it some mystical meaning. And "unto Him you wil return" - Simply maens that we will stand before hom on the day of judgement. There are countless examples in the Quran that talk about the day of judgement and give descriptions of this place. Dont try and mistake them for metephors and look for hidden meanings. it is as it is written.

"It is he who created for you all that is on earth. Then he rose over (Istawa) towards the heaven and made them seven heavens and he is the All-Knower of everything" Holy Quran (2:29)

Refuted
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Well if carrying out the above i mentioned will keep me from reincarnation, how do you think people are reborn again?! It's very simple and if you were a 'Sikh' you'd know!

BTW - The latter is your opinion and not a fact!
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No im a muslim - not a sikh.

Nothing is simple about being born as a tree
 
AvarAllahNoor said:
Well if carrying out the above i mentioned will keep me from reincarnation, how do you think people are reborn again?! It's very simple and if you were a 'Sikh' you'd know!

BTW - The latter is your opinion and not a fact!
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Reincarnation is also an opinion
 

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