Sisters, a few questions about hijab

[Ramadhan]

do all Madhabs agree on it ?

I think madhab shafii does.

Shafi'i madhab Ulama in my place never order women to wear socks in salah, and also never forbid women salah without socks.

True, but then again, all indonesian women shalah in mukena which completely covers the feet.

 

[ardianto]

I think madhab shafii does.

True, but then again, all indonesian women shalah in mukena which completely covers the feet.

But, we are talking about wearing socks, not only cover the feet.

 

[Ramadhan]

But, we are talking about wearing socks, not only cover the feet.

If you please read again, the discussion was about using socks to cover the feet (when wearing trousers which don't cover the feet), as there are opinions that feet are allowed to not be covered during shalah.
Sisters (aisharayann and muslim woman), please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Ramadhan]

Jzk sis, im not sure if holding onto the skirt would be appropriate during salah, so its probably easier to just wear trousers/shirt, but yeh maybe its all just down to practice, and getting loose fitting garments that avoid trips/falls.

is there any hadith that says holding onto skirt to avoid tripping when getting up from sujood not allowed?

I'm sure the shahabiyats (ra) did not wear trousers and shirts, did they?

So, if current women are having trouble with skirt, surely the shahabi (ra) also had similar difficutlies?

 

[Muslim Woman]

Salaam Sis

its probably easier to just wear trousers/shirt,

women are not allowed to wear men's dress and the vice versa according to a hadith.


[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Islamic Dress Code for Women in Detail

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[FONT=Verdana,Arial][FONT=Verdana,Arial]Should Not Resemble Men's Clothing

Abu Hurairah (RA) reported that Allah's Messenger (SAW) cursed the man who wears women's clothes, and the woman who wears men's clothes. (Ahmad, Abu Dawud and Ibn Majah)


'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin 'As (RA) said: "I heard Allah's Messenger (SAW) saying: 'He is not one of us who imitates women, nor is she who imitates men.'" (Ahmad)



When a woman wears men's clothes such as pants or jeans, and other men's outfits, she incurs upon herself the curse of Allah (SWT) and the curse of the Messenger (SAW). The curse will affect her husband or her male guardian if he allows her to wear such outfits, because it is his responsibility to make sure she observes the Islamic dress code. Allah (SWT) the Exalted says: "O you who believe, protect yourself and your families from a fire whose fuel are men and stones." (66:6)



And the Prophet (SAW) also said: "Everyone of you is a guardian, and everyone of you is responsible for his subordinates. The man is a guardian of his family, and he is responsible." (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)



Some may argue that there is no harm in wearing men's clothes by women living in the West because this is prototypical of the Western women. This argument is groundless because Allah (SWT) has decreed that Muhammad (SAW) is the last of the Prophets and Messengers to whom He revealed the Qu'ran, the last of His Books, and He has chosen Islam as the only Deen accepted by Him. Islam, praise to Allah, knows that Muslims will be living in the non-Islamic societies, yet He has decreed that men should look different from women and vice versa.

http://www.brevardmasjid.com/outward_appearance/7_conditions_detailed_p.html
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[nature]

is there any hadith that says holding onto skirt to avoid tripping when getting up from sujood not allowed? I'm sure the shahabiyats (ra) did not wear trousers and shirts, did they? So, if current women are having trouble with skirt, surely the shahabi (ra) also had similar difficutlies?

Im not aware of any hadith, but during salah were not supposed to do any uncessesary actions, so if your thinking about your dress constantly then how can you put full concentration in salah ??

women are not allowed to wear men's dress and the vice versa according to a hadith.

Im not talking about dressing like a man ? you can get womens trousers/kurtas/long shirts.

 

[Ramadhan]

Im not aware of any hadith, but during salah were not supposed to do any uncessesary actions, so if your thinking about your dress constantly then how can you put full concentration in salah ??

Maybe Im wrong, but I havent heard my family and friends voicing their concerns about wearing something like mukena in shalah, if anything, mukena give them peace of mind during shalah because they are not constantly worried whether they are appropriately covered or whether their dress will make them unable to make movements.
And as I've said before, maybe because indonesian muslimah have always worn mukena while shalah so they've had a lot practice and it doesn't bother them.
Also, holding up a skirt during sujood to standing is not "unnecessary" and it's not constant, you only hold onto it while making transition from sujood to standing. Also, with men who wear pants. we also do it from standing to sujood otherwise we can trip from pants which are not loose enough. And the movement is just natural, we dont even think about itI don't know exactly what types of clothing the shahabiyats (ra) wore during shalah, but it is unlikely a pants and more likely skirt-type.