Slang lingo.. 4 da peeps hu dn't want der warnin level to get any higha.

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dont u hav to hav a certain level of iman and knowledge of Quran to lead people in salaah? hmm... bro fi-sab iz der like any special ruling to leadn teraweeh :? :?
 
wat is taraweeh also spelt teraweeh? i fink am needn to get mself educated

sumtimes sm sorta tellin it like it is in English too far
but am only listenin to Qur'an in Arabic
translations all frustrations
 
Mazed said:
dont u hav to hav a certain level of iman and knowledge of Quran to lead people in salaah? hmm... bro fi-sab iz der like any special ruling to leadn teraweeh :? :?
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Iv herd dat da salah is not acceptd if da person leadin is jaahil.

Allah knows best.

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Who has the most right to lead the prayers?​


Question:

I have a question regarding arrogance and becoming an imam.
In my community there are a few Muslims that always assume that they are the "most noble and learned" of the Muslims in the community and always assume the imam position in prayer, and never request that another brother go ahead. In fact, before the iqamah is recited these Muslims are already at the imam's mu-salla. The never request another brother to become imam, and one of them even said "there is no one here more qualified than myself." I do not know the exact reason why some of these Muslims feel that they are the most qualified, but I think it is because they feel that they are the oldest among the jama'ah or longest living in the community or even that they are of a particular nationality or dress.

I also know that there are some brothers who have alhamdulillah memorized much of the Qur'aan but they never want to become imam because they do not want to be associated or in competition with the arragant ones.
Please forgive me for this somewhat long message, but is it permissible or even preferred for these Muslims who may be learned to deny becoming the imam because of perhaps humility? Are these two situations (the assuming of becoming imam and the denying of it) two extremes that Allaah may be displeased with? If so, what should the people in the jama'ah do in this situation?


Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Many saheeh ahaadeeth have been narrated which explain to the Muslims who is most qualified and has the most right to lead the prayers. One of these ahaadeeth is that which was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“If there are three people, let one of them lead the others in prayer, and the one who has the most right to lead them is the one who knows more Qur’aan.” (Narrated by Muslim, no. 1077).


The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“The people should be led in prayer by the one who has most knowledge of the Qur’aan and has been reciting it for longer. If they are equal in their knowledge and reading of the Qur’aan, then they should be led by the one who made hijrah first. If they are equal with regard to hijrah, then they should be led by the one who is older…” (Narrated by Muslim, 1079).


To sum up what is indicated by these ahaadeeth, the one who has the most right to lead the others in prayer is: the one who has most knowledge of the Book of Allaah and of the fiqh of salaah.

Those who knew more of the Book of Allaah were appointed to lead the prayers at the time of the Sahaabah, because they had learned the correct way of reciting the aayat and they had learned the knowledge contained therein and the deeds prescribed by the Qur’aan. So they combined knowledge and action [they acted upon what they had learned], and did not stop at merely memorizing as is the case nowadays. How many people learn all or part of the Qur’aan, take care to recite it properly and with a beautiful voice, but they do not know anything about the fiqh of salaah.


If they are equal with regard to knowledge of the Qur’aan, then the one who knows more about the Sunnah should lead the prayer. If they are equal with regard to knowledge of the Sunnah, then the one who made hijrah first should lead the prayer. If they are equal with regard to hijrah, or if this does not apply, then the one who is older should lead the prayer, as is indicated in the hadeeth of Maalik ibn al-Huwayrith, who said:

We came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and we were young people, close in age. We stayed with him for twenty days, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was kind to us. When he thought that we were missing our families, he asked us about those whom we had left behind, and we told him. He said, “Go back to your families and stay with them. Teach them and instruct them” – and he said some things I remembered and some that I forgot. “And pray as you have seen me praying. When the time for prayer comes, let one of you call the Adhaan and let the oldest among you lead the prayer.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 6705). If they are equal with regard to recitation of the Qur’aan, knowledge and hijrah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded that the eldest of them should be appointed to lead the prayer. If they are equal in age, then the one who is most righteous (has most taqwaa) should be appointed, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, the most honourable of you with Allaah is that (believer) who has al-Taqwaa (is one of the pious)…” [al-Hujuraat 49:13]. If they are equal in all regards, then they should draw lots, if there is a dispute.

Having a PhD or having lived the longest in the land of the kuffaar does not qualify a person to lead the prayers. The one who has memorized more Qur’aan and has more knowledge of the fiqh of salaah is the one who should be appointed. It is not right for Muslims to dispute over the leadership of the prayers on the basis of their personal whims and desires. They should appoint the person who is described by sharee’ah as being qualified to lead the prayers. We ask Allaah to reform the Muslims.



Islam Q&A

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

source: http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=1875&ln=eng&txt=lead salaah


Also read:

Does there have to be one imaam and does he have to be the khateeb?
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=7231&ln=eng&txt=lead salaah
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y has dis thred ben dead 2day :?...cmon peepz ya kno wt ta discuss...or aleas brainstorm ur ideas...fink dat ur in skul PSHE lesson teacha askin ya ta brainstorm ideas ta discuss...cmon :D :D

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wat hav i been thinkin recently:

last of the dunya is arrived.
its just as though the sun is about to set when compared to the time thats already passed.
Mahdi appears to be comin soon enough
must prepare for g-had fi-sabillilah.
must fight nafs
must get ready
iss time... iss time that the whole west starts attacking the muslims....
 
well now i aint even gunna try peep type lingo but just whatever pops out:

today there was my mind in the mode of it is all getting sort of sorted out and resolved as to which parts of which mental patterns originating where . . . but then some newbies inevitably .. more bizzarely than the last.

I was manifesting as a big joke in the future among folk in Jannah who though the my efforts now are hilarious, How such a brain wave occurred just can not make any sense: but that was the joke of the future: "ha ha ha look at us then running around like ants but trying to make sense of an impossible world: ha ha ha ha, they all so funny, they been so hard at trying to be good that the all falling over their selfs to manifest as the resemblence of black magic; ha ha ha ha ha . . . . . it is really so very comforting to know that we now is only a laugh of occassional remembrance of some dumb old story from the past; when it is hereafter in the future when we in Jannah

I am overjoyed to know

it has all been only some funny peculiarity of a planet that spun too fast a while; I hope that sun rise in the west happens soon; I am getting tired
 
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Curaezipirid said:
it has all been only some funny peculiarity of a planet that spun too fast a while; I hope that sun rise in the west happens soon; I am getting tired
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Nah don't wish that.. dajjal has to come be4 it yet, and peepl mite even giv up der faith.. and when the sun rises from da west - we can't ask fo 4givness from Allaah.. trus me u don't want that.
 
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so basikly wer discussin de signs o de Day o Judgement :? :?

ya kno 2day sum gyal in ma clas askd dat y ppl c de greek storis as myths but nt de islamic or de biblical stories

i had no i dea wt ta say ta dat :-\

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so basikly wer discussin de signs o de Day o Judgement :? :?

ya kno 2day sum gyal in ma clas askd dat y ppl c de greek storis as myths but nt de islamic or de biblical stories

i had no i dea wt ta say ta dat :-\

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becoz da greek stories are extremely old to the point that no historical evidence can be found for them however historical evidence is available for islamic events during the time of rasullulah saws and also the fact that the torah/zabur/injeel and quran all testify to the same stories strengthens it



^^ Thats my weak try at it :-\
 
+*Glacier*+ said:
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so basikly wer discussin de signs o de Day o Judgement :? :?

ya kno 2day sum gyal in ma clas askd dat y ppl c de greek storis as myths but nt de islamic or de biblical stories

i had no i dea wt ta say ta dat :-\

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uno wot i wudda done, startd sum big argumnt.. it mite hav bin 32 against 1 but ive got Allah on ma side.. trus me, ive started nuff debates in RE.. sayin wotz ryt innit?
 
MusLiM 4 LiFe said:
uno wot i wudda done, startd sum big argumnt.. it mite hav bin 32 against 1 but ive got Allah on ma side.. trus me, ive started nuff debates in RE.. sayin wotz ryt innit?
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i always do dat :giggling:...but de fing is i didnt kno wt ta say...its tru dat Allah is on ma sde....but dis is kinda diff innit :)...im nt arguin as to wich religion is true but abt greek mythologies n stuf....kinda diff dnt ya fink :?

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MusLiM 4 LiFe said:
uno wot i wudda done, startd sum big argumnt.. it mite hav bin 32 against 1 but ive got Allah on ma side.. trus me, ive started nuff debates in RE.. sayin wotz ryt innit?
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lol sis try be careful wen u do that coz i heard dat wen discussions turn into arguments the hearts turn hard and its like tryna pour water into an upsidedown container (WHICH HAS NO HOLES IN IT :p fi-sab) so inshaAllah be soft n gentle and if they start shouting then try calm em down
 
ohh nooo, i dont shout at dem *most of da time 8-)*, i juz annoy dem :D im good at duin dat, and at da end dey end up agreein wid me so itz all good :D

nah its not diff sis cuz come 2 think of it, ur arguin 4 wat u tink iz ryt yh, so u r defendn ur religion init..

btw bro mazed ur xplanation woz good :D iv run outa repz btw :p
 
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annoy dem....deyl fink *oh dis galz annoyin jus agree wid de crap she tels us so dat she leaves us alone* :heated:....no sis bein calm n rational is wts gonna help :) :)

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