So I've finally converted to Islam

[Ghazi]

I think I've mad my decision I am going to follow the Sufism school of though - I like the philosophical aspect of it and dancing, and smoking lots of hashish lol. I think its the best choice for me.

Salaam

No, this isn't the way, sufism is full of bid'ah(innovation) please stick to the sunnah of the prophet(pbuh) stay away from shai's as well, sorry if this offends anyone but i'm just trying to help a brother out.

 

[Snowflake]

Allahu Akbar! I'm overjoyed to hear you've accepted Islam SuperJatt. May Allah make it easy for you to follow and increase your knowledge of this beautiful deen inshaAllah. Ameen. Mannnn me feeling sooo happy :statisfie

You'll come across things that might not make sense at first. That happens to a lot of us in the beginning. Don't let that put you off. Knowledge will make every thing clear to you inshaAllah. So do find someone knowlegable who can guide and advise you inshaAllah. And finally welcome to your new family. May you become an example to others by being a good practicing muslim who does everything for the sake of Allah. Ameen.

best wishes and sincere duaas



a sis :thankyou:

I think I've mad my decision I am going to follow the Sufism school of though - I like the philosophical aspect of it and dancing, and smoking lots of hashish lol. I think its the best choice for me.

errr umm no.. learn the basics of Islam first. Then you will be sure to follow what Allah has decreed for mankind. Smoking hashish & dancing is not one of them.

 

[SuperJatt]

Salaam

No, this isn't the way, sufism is full of bid'ah(innovation) please stick to the sunnah of the prophet(pbuh) stay away from shai's as well, sorry if this offends anyone but i'm just trying to help a brother out.

Sorry, I don't understand. When you say innovation, it seems you're saying that is bad. Anyway I've been learning about Sufism, and it seems pretty cool. All the mystical aspects of it like mind over matter and deep meditation. I've even been reading about Hassan-i-Sabah, some real interesting people.

You should learn about Sufism its really cool check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism

 

[Ghazi]

Salaam

There's an hadith saying: Don't let any followers of bid'ah present there arguments to you cause it'll cause confusion in your hearts. So for this reason I won't click on the link provided. Brother I suggest you stay away from the sufi sect, the stuff you mentioned has nothing to do with islam, think about it' the sufi's wouldn't admit that they're wrong but they are and i seriously fear for you i don't want you to go down a wrong path.

 

[SuperJatt]

Allahu Akbar! I'm overjoyed to hear you've accepted Islam SuperJatt. May Allah make it easy for you to follow and increase your knowledge of this beautiful deen inshaAllah. Ameen. Mannnn me feeling sooo happy :statisfie

You'll come across things that might not make sense at first. That happens to a lot of us in the beginning. Don't let that put you off. Knowledge will make every thing clear to you inshaAllah. So do find someone knowlegable who can guide and advise you inshaAllah. And finally welcome to your new family. May you become an example to others by being a good practicing muslim who does everything for the sake of Allah. Ameen.

best wishes and sincere duaas



a sis :thankyou:


errr umm no.. learn the basics of Islam first. Then you will be sure to follow what Allah has decreed for mankind. Smoking hashish & dancing is not one of them.

Salaams. Well am making a decision, because I feel learning about a particular aspect is better. Maybe am wrong, but Sufism seems just right for me, its less strict, and helps me deal with things. Like I mean there is a ban on music in mainstream Islam, it makes me think sometimes surly Allah can't be that strict. Somethings make sense to me when I look at Sufism, like the Mirage the Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) had, it all makes sense. Its more to so with mystical aspects rather then b eing too strict about things and missing the whole point, what is the point of making salat if you're not going to connect with Allah as if you're doing it because its an obligation.

 

[SuperJatt]

Salaam

There's an hadith saying: Don't let any followers of bid'ah present there arguments to you cause it'll cause confusion in your hearts. So for this reason I won't click on the link provided. Brother I suggest you stay away from the sufi sect, the stuff you mentioned has nothing to do with islam, think about it' the sufi's wouldn't admit that they're wrong but they are and i seriously fear for you i don't want you to go down a wrong path.

Yes, but we Allah know the hadeeth could be wrong. Allah never promised to protect the hadeeth. They are good for reading some and genuine some maybe are not. A Muslims should seek knowledge, not dissmiss it.

 

[ummbilal]

Salaam. Yeah I just decided to accept Islam after looking at a few other religions, Islam was straight forward and simple.

Christianity: didn't make any sense the bible tells you to be like Jesus, and according to the NT/OT Jesus was a god - how the hell is a Human supposed to be like a god? :heated: just doesn't make any sense. And Ahmad Deedat has me convinced, Jesus existed and he was not crucified. And 99% of Christianity is the work of Paul.

Allhumdulilah Allah wa taala has opened your heart to the truth, inshaallah you will always be in the fold of Islam and grow in iman, Inshaallah all your previous sins are wiped and you have clean slate, welcome to the wonderful fold of Islam,

It always makes me happy to hear of another soul guided to Islam,

ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR ALLAHU AKBAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Sikhism: There is evidence to suggest that Guru Nanak, was most likely a Muslim then a Hindu or a Sikh, he prayed with Muslims, he ate with rding to Sikhism. If I was a Sikh I would convert to Islam.

I didnt know this, could you possible give me some links etc.. to where you got ya info for me to pass on to sikh friends, jazakallah kahir


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Although in Islam I don't get this Sunni and Shia deal? Anyway I want to learn more about Shiasam if anyone has good links and info then pass then on to me.

basically there was a difference in opion about who should be caliph after the Prophet saws Abu Bakr ra was chosen but Shias say it should have been Ali ra, but some take it further and say that Ali ra was acctually the prophet and Jibril as made a mistake by giving the Quran to Muhammed saws, this is an impossibility as Jibrail can only follow the command of Allah as he is an angel, so they are saying Allah made a mistake, which cannot be??

also many shias worship Ali and his sons the Prophets gransons, Hasan and Hussain ra, they believe they are devine, Ali ra killed people who decided to pray to him, when he was alive, he was an amazing warrior and very wise man, so probably a man of great strength and carisma,however this doesnt make him worthy of worship, he had these people burnt after they refused to disist worshiping him, they said indeed you are God as only Allah punishes with fire, authu bilahi, they were very decieved by the shaitan

If you have studied the Life of the Prophet saws you will know that he was indeed a prophet of Allah, Ali was his cousin and never, declared he was a prophet or anything except an ordinary man,

I am a sunni, so i guess shias would say different, but just how christianity was twisted by paul, so was Islam by a man called Abdullah (sorry i cant remember his family line) he created a weakness in Islam by corrupting it and encourageing grave worship and shirk, which is shiaisim as it is today.

sunnis do not agree that shias are muslim as to worship someone other than Allah takes u outside the fold of islam, they worship Ali and his sons and sometimes his wife.

however i should add there is a small party of shias who simply believe Ali ra should have been the next caliph, though they DO accept the rulings of the caliphs inbetween Muhamed saws and Ali,

i sincerly hope inshaallah that made sense, any shias who are offended, maybe you shoud do your homework on the roots of shiaisim.

 

[Ghazi]

Salaam

I agree with you that a muslim should seek knowladge but i urge you to do the same before you decided to go with any sect, read the biogrpahy of the prophet

 

[aakhirah]

Yes, but we Allah know the hadeeth could be wrong. Allah never promised to protect the hadeeth. They are good for reading some and genuine some maybe are not. A Muslims should seek knowledge, not dissmiss it.

I wouldn't go down that line. Rejecting a hadeeth simply because it doesn't fit in with what we deem as logic is disastrous, to say the least.

We've been ordered by Allah Himself, in the Qur-aan, in many places, to follow our Prophet SallAllahu 'alayhi wa Sallam. If we were to reject Hadeeth we would be rejecting the essence of the Qur-aan.

I am aware that there are a few Hadeeth-rejectors out there, but this has already been foretold to us by our dear Prophet SallAllahu 'alayhi wa Sallam.

In the end, each person has the evidence in front of him. And Allah guides whom He wills to the Straight Path.

May Allah guide us all!



A.

 

[SuperJatt]

basically there was a difference in opion about who should be caliph after the Prophet saws Abu Bakr ra was chosen but Shias say it should have been Ali ra, but some take it further and say that Ali ra was acctually the prophet and Jibril as made a mistake by giving the Quran to Muhammed saws, this is an impossibility as Jibrail can only follow the command of Allah as he is an angel, so they are saying Allah made a mistake, which cannot be??

also many shias worship Ali and his sons the Prophets gransons, Hasan and Hussain ra, they believe they are devine, Ali ra killed people who decided to pray to him, when he was alive, he was an amazing warrior and very wise man, so probably a man of great strength and carisma,however this doesnt make him worthy of worship, he had these people burnt after they refused to disist worshiping him, they said indeed you are God as only Allah punishes with fire, authu bilahi, they were very decieved by the shaitan

If you have studied the Life of the Prophet saws you will know that he was indeed a prophet of Allah, Ali was his cousin and never, declared he was a prophet or anything except an ordinary man,

I am a sunni, so i guess shias would say different, but just how christianity was twisted by paul, so was Islam by a man called Abdullah (sorry i cant remember his family line) he created a weakness in Islam by corrupting it and encourageing grave worship and shirk, which is shiaisim as it is today.

sunnis do not agree that shias are muslim as to worship someone other than Allah takes u outside the fold of islam, they worship Ali and his sons and sometimes his wife.

however i should add there is a small party of shias who simply believe Ali ra should have been the next caliph, though they DO accept the rulings of the caliphs inbetween Muhamed saws and Ali,

i sincerly hope inshaallah that made sense, any shias who are offended, maybe you shoud do your homework on the roots of shiaisim.

http://www.alislam.org/library/links/00000181.html

http://www.nachnach.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30488&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

 

[anis_z24]

It's best to go to neither Sunni nor Shia, but to stay in the fold of the Religion of Islam of Allah and His Prophet (saws).

Salam
what do you mean not sunni, Sunna means the tradition; in this case the tradition of the Prophet(PBUH)
Sunni is not a made up group.
It the way you are to follow the prophet(PBUH). You cant say follow the Quran only, thats wrong, because who taught us the Quran. The prophet(PBUH).

 

[anis_z24]

Salaams. Well am making a decision, because I feel learning about a particular aspect is better. Maybe am wrong, but Sufism seems just right for me, its less strict, and helps me deal with things. Like I mean there is a ban on music in mainstream Islam, it makes me think sometimes surly Allah can't be that strict. Somethings make sense to me when I look at Sufism, like the Mirage the Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) had, it all makes sense. Its more to so with mystical aspects rather then b eing too strict about things and missing the whole point, what is the point of making salat if you're not going to connect with Allah as if you're doing it because its an obligation.

Salam
everything that takes you astray from Allah, is Haram.
So if music has rememberance of Islam or Allah,etc then why is it banned.

 

[aakhirah]

Salam
everything that takes you astray from Allah, is Haram.
So if music has rememberance of Islam or Allah,etc then why is it banned.

I'm afraid you're contradicting yourself now. On the one hand you're saying we should follow our Prophet SallAllahu 'alayhi wa Sallam, and now you're saying music shouldn't be banned. It's haraam because it's mentioned in the Hadeeth!

wAllah al-Muwaffiq.



A.

 

[DaSangarTalib]

Brother don’t get in all that sunni and shia business, that wont get you anywhere…what is important than anything is that you follow the teachings of the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and also the teachings of the Quran..this is more crucial than following any group of people..just be a MUSLIM and you’ll be fine…stay away from all these little groups, its a major sin for people to cause divisions, we are one ummah and should stay like that and unite...those people who do go around making divisions in the ummah they will be punished accordingly coz its not allowed…When you in the grave the angel wont ask ya what group you followed on earth but they’ll ask ya who is your lord?, your deen? (religion) and also who’s your prophet?…and you gotta answer all these corecctlly and that’s the time where you cant lie..so my humble advice is that forget these groups and stick to being JUST A MUSLIM

also brother ask anyone on this forum what is more important following the sunnah and Quran?, or following a group/madhab..they tell ya sunnah and Quran..i hope you take this on board Insha'Allah..

take care brother

 

[Snowflake]

Salaams. Well am making a decision, because I feel learning about a particular aspect is better. Maybe am wrong, but Sufism seems just right for me, its less strict, and helps me deal with things. Like I mean there is a ban on music in mainstream Islam, it makes me think sometimes surly Allah can't be that strict. Somethings make sense to me when I look at Sufism, like the Mirage the Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) had, it all makes sense. Its more to so with mystical aspects rather then b eing too strict about things and missing the whole point, what is the point of making salat if you're not going to connect with Allah as if you're doing it because its an obligation.

Well you aint meant to follow something jus becuz it's easy. That don't make it right. Jannah aint easy to achieve. You can't even get a job in this world without the proper qualifications likewise you need to qualify as a good muslim to get into jannah.

Lemme explain something to you yeh? I'm into spirituality, I used to meditate a lot, I saw a lot of 'unseen' things in front of ma eyes. I've done and sometimes still do spiritual healing. Spirituality is the essence of me. Yet I'm not a sufi, I don't get doped up on hashish or wateva to feel spritual. I don't follow their teachings or even know one personally. If it's spirituality ur after, then after salah, sit alone after isha prayer..without distractions, and imagine ur beneath the heavens and light (noor) is falling on you, going through ur head and out ur feet. Once you've fixed your thoughts on that. Imagine you are in jannah. Imagine the things Allah has told us that are in jannah. Feel Allah's presence. Feel His blessings falling on you. Let your imagination do the work. And it will. Then watch spirituality come alive within your self. Allah will show you things you can't even imagine. But keep it to yourself.

That's where spirituality is found. Not in the pots of hashish of the sufis or in the rhythem of their twirling dances but in the closeness of Allah. It's inside you already. All you need to do is awaken it.

 

[أحمد]

Salam
what do you mean not sunni, Sunna means the tradition; in this case the tradition of the Prophet(PBUH)
Sunni is not a made up group.
It the way you are to follow the prophet(PBUH). You cant say follow the Quran only, thats wrong, because who taught us the Quran. The prophet(PBUH).

Incase you haven't noticed; I wrote about following Allah and His Prophet (saws), not the Quran on its own. It is not possible to follow the Quran on its own. The Quran says several times that you should follow Allah and His Prophet (saws). You do not have to be a "Sunni" or "Shia" to be following Allah and his Prophet (saws), as the two big groups are divisions of Muslims, who chose to label themselves with certain words; so that it may seem that they themselves are perfectly upon the straight path. So, I repeat: its best NOT to be divided into any group. Infact Allah commands us NOT to divide. For more information on Muslim Unity, please refer to:Muslim Unityon the esiraat website.

 

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

I think I've mad my decision I am going to follow the Sufism school of though - I like the philosophical aspect of it and dancing, and smoking lots of hashish lol. I think its the best choice for me.

SuperJatt,
I'm sure you know that we don't decide what is the truth based on desires and what we think is fun. And Muslims are not supposed to divide themselves into sects. There is no need for you to pick out a sect or order to join, as I mentioned previously:

As for sectarian issues, the important thing to remember is that we follow Islam as it was revealed by Allah swt in the Qur'an, explained by the Prophet Muhammad pbuh in the Sunnah and as it was understood by his companions, the immediate recipients on the message. If we agree on this, then there is nothing to worry about.

Brother, just follow the Qur'an and Sunnah. That's all. I would strongly suggest that you begin learning about Islam by checking out the resources listed here:
http://www.islamicboard.com/education-issues/13373-studying-islam-list-resources.html
Especially this one:
http://www.leveltruth.com/btwmain.asp

 

[samina1]

:^) Okyyyyyyyyyy.. Im Jsut Watchin...
No Harm 2 Any1 In Here Is It?
Ma Salam

 

[shanu]

i agree wid brother ahmad waheed
muslims are muslims
whther sunni or shia
i love em all

 

[Chuck]

Congratulations SuperJatt, I've gone through the same stage, and may Allah help through your journey. Right now I've to run, but I'll share something from my experience.

In the mean time read the following article: http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=article&aid=248

A quick note: The site differentiates between Sunnah and Hadith which may be confusing to people who are new to this concept. Anyway, their methodology is very objective, when you will read you will find out.