Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

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Can someone please listen to this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9IYFqGfBNY

I get the impression we can not love them (which I understand) but we have to hate them, idk.

but then I am thinking "what about those who marry christian women? do they have to live in marriage void of love?"

Idk if I am understanding this correctly, but is he saying that the one who LOVES the people of kufr FOR their kufr, is out of Islam?

Or should we hate Kuffar for ther kufr? What is he trying to say. :scratch:

We should hate their kufr, and disapprove of it, yes. And we should NOT love it. And we should NOT love them for their kufr,

I really want to understand Islam in a concise manner, but I keep seeing stuff that destroy my conclusions.

Anyways, Alhamdulillah.
 
فرحان said:
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Do you want me to ask Sh. Ahmed Musa Jibril directly on your behalf?

PS: He may come forum one day for AMA :ia:, once his restrictions of using social media are less.
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Yeah, I want to have In shaa' Allah, a thorough talk with him, as I see that his aqeedah is on point.

Not too much of his time tho. I just want to you know, clarify once and for all, what is what. A question and answer session perhaps.

I want to re-educate myself. lol
 
Serinity said:
Yeah, I want to have In shaa' Allah, a thorough talk with him, as I see that his aqeedah is on point.
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Alright I'll let you know when AMA starts. Might take long. At the moment we can do one or two questions due to restrictions.
 
فرحان said:
Alright I'll let you know when AMA starts. Might take long. At the moment we can do one or two questions due to restrictions.
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1. What is meant by not taking the kuffar as Awliyah, like, I live in a kafir country, is that taking them as protectors?

2. Can you reconcile between the whole al-wala wal-bara and the fact that you can marry a jew or a christian, ie. People of the Book? cause a marriage requires love to work and prosper. I think, but we are told we can not love them? We hate their kufr, but do we hate THEM? please do explain to me this whole thing, and how our relationship with kuffar should be, etc.
 
:salam:

I have always believed that calling upon other than Allah is shirk. Then I came across tawassul etc.

And I have always believed calling upon the dead, for anything is shirk. But then there is this hadith:

http://sunnah.com/bukhari/75/27

I am pretty certain calling upon other than Allah in a supernatural way is shirk, and calling upon the dead thinking they can help, is shirk. afaik. Any clarifications?

Is asking the dead to call upon Allah for them, shirk?
 
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I have another doubt about Islam that has arised.

So the Qisas Law.

So how does it go?

A kills B's children, therefore B kills A's children. - this sounds wrong
A kills B's children, B kills A himself. - this sounds OK.

This whole 'eye for an eye' thing sounds like an injustice to me. So if you kill my people, I kill your people? but what did the people do for them to deserve to be killed? Doesn't it go against being responsible for your own actions. Why should I kill a whole nation for what man did (killing my nation)? Doesn't that only count if the PEOPLE themselves agreed?

In today's world we can't kill WHOLE america for what SOME Americans do......... Pls explain. :/

This whole Jew hate thing, there are some Jews in the PAST who killed the Prophets AS, but that doesn't mean we burden the today's jews with what the jews did in the past? This goes against the whole take responsiblity for what one does.

So in Surat Al - Fatihah, Allah says He is angry with the Jews, and I assume a CERTAIN group of Jews. So any explanation?
 
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That's right. Only the one who did act of killing will be killed as a punishment, not his whole tribe or nation.
And if the parents of the killed one agree that the killer will pay a certain money as a punishment for his act, the punishment of dead will be removed. So, the parents of the victim can decide, whether they want a death punishment or a payment for the criminal.
 
Serinity said:
So in Surat Al - Fatihah, Allah says He is angry with the Jews, and I assume a CERTAIN group of Jews. So any explanation?
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Allah doesn't say anything about Jews in Surat al-Fatiha directly. But some scholars say that in the last verse;
The path of those upon whom You have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray. (al-Fatiha, 7)

the red marked part is about the Jews and the blue one about the christians. Because the Jews were not obedient in some acts, for example the prohibition of working on Saturdays, and thus evoked Allahs anger. And the christians went astray in their faith, i.e. accepted the trinity belief.

But not all scholars agree with this. For exampe Fakhruddin ar-Razi (rh) says that it includes every person in general, who is not obedient in deeds and who goes astray in their faith.
 
YahyaIbnSelam said:
That's right. Only the one who did act of killing will be killed as a punishment, not his whole tribe or nation.
And if the parents of the killed one agree that the killer will pay a certain money as a punishment for his act, the punishment of dead will be removed. So, the parents of the victim can decide, whether they want a death punishment or a payment for the criminal.
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But I can't for example kill your parents, cuz what do your parents have to do with you killing my parents?

Allah says in some verses to retaliate with the same thing the opponents did. What does that mean?
 
Yes, if I would kill anybodies parents (what an example :) ) I would be killed as a punishment, not my parents.

Serinity said:
Allah says in some verses to retaliate with the same thing the opponents did. What does that mean?
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Please quote the verses
 
YahyaIbnSelam said:
Yes, if I would kill anybodies parents (what an example :) ) I would be killed as a punishment, not my parents.



Please quote the verses
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http://legacy.quran.com/2/194

Ps. I have been reading on forums that there is no 'innocents' in Islam. Wth. Obviously there are?!

Just to get this straight: it is haram to kill anyone, no matter what, for no reason at all, or just for being angry.

I will take this opinion:

It is haram to kill anyone, even if he is a kafir, cause a person being a kafir, is not a legitimate reason.

And there are innocents in Islam, kafirs may be innocents, right? In Islam it is prohibited and condemned to kill innocents, kafir or not.
 
The vers you quoted is about Jihad. Because arabs would not fight in the sacred months - Rajab, Muharram, Dhu'l Qa'da and Dhul Hijja -. There were some wars in pre-islamic arabia which took place in this months, but mostly they would avoid fighting in this months, because it was seen as a bad thing in their culture. And after Islam came, it preserved this traditional rule, but like it says in that verse (02/194), if the pagan arabs attacked the muslims in this months, the muslims are allowed to fight back.
Later this verse was replaced with another, there was no more month restriction for fighting, the prophet (saw) for example besieged the city of Taif in Muharram.
I don't know if it is translated into english but there is a good book about the muhkamat verses (verses from which fiqh-rules are derived) in Quran by Muhammad Ali as-Sabooni.
 
Serinity said:
I have another doubt about Islam that has arised.

So the Qisas Law.

So how does it go?

A kills B's children, therefore B kills A's children. - this sounds wrong
A kills B's children, B kills A himself. - this sounds OK.

This whole 'eye for an eye' thing sounds like an injustice to me. So if you kill my people, I kill your people? but what did the people do for them to deserve to be killed? Doesn't it go against being responsible for your own actions. Why should I kill a whole nation for what man did (killing my nation)? Doesn't that only count if the PEOPLE themselves agreed?

In today's world we can't kill WHOLE america for what SOME Americans do......... Pls explain. :/

This whole Jew hate thing, there are some Jews in the PAST who killed the Prophets AS, but that doesn't mean we burden the today's jews with what the jews did in the past? This goes against the whole take responsiblity for what one does.

So in Surat Al - Fatihah, Allah says He is angry with the Jews, and I assume a CERTAIN group of Jews. So any explanation?
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Salam brother :)

5:32 "For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land."
 
anatolian said:
Salam brother :)

5:32 "For this reason did We prescribe to the children of Israel that whoever slays a soul, unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land, it is as though he slew all men; and whoever keeps it alive, it is as though he kept alive all men; and certainly Our apostles came to them with clear arguments, but even after that many of them certainly act extravagantly in the land."
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I know this is weird. But I get the impression this is only for souls whom Allah has forbidden, which soul has Allah forbidden?
 
Serinity said:
I know this is weird. But I get the impression this is only for souls whom Allah has forbidden, which soul has Allah forbidden?
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The answer is in the same ayah bro..any soul "unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land"
 
anatolian said:
The answer is in the same ayah bro..any soul "unless it be for manslaughter or for mischief in the land"
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JazakAllah khayr bro. I will take it as killing a soul with no reason, or silly reasons, kafir or not, is haram. Cuz, murder is the second biggest sin, and I see no evidence that says "you can kill kafirs" anyways lol.

Anyways, I will take it as it is. It is haram to kill. There are just some people who quote Quran to justify their killing /bombings etc. of innocents. I take it as haram to kill anyone with insufficient reason.

Then there are people who see all disbelievers as enemies of Allah, or people who conspire or plan against us Muslims day and night.......... Come on, not all disbelievers do that.

I am pretty sure not ALL disbelievers are enemies of Allah, like, Ibn Talib, the uncle of the Prophet SAW was not an enemy of Allah, was he?

Btw, Allah says in the Quran that the disbelievers will be in Hellfire. But my question is - surely that doesn't give us the right to judge other non muslims, and doom them to Hellfire?

Do I have to think of every kafir "you are going to Hell." I mean Idk the unseen, and idk........ I just don't find myself comfortable to think of every kafir I meet "he will go to hell"

Cuz I always get this uncomfy feeling "How Would I even know he will be in Hell? Why would he?"

I just find myself uncomfy and not right...... Judging people. I don't like to look down on people, be they kafirs or not. I just want to see people as humans, and let Allah judge.......

I won't judge kafirs, Allah knows best their situation, do I have to say in my head "apparrently, you'll go to Hell"............. I feel soo uncomfy.
And may Allah forgive me if I said anything wrong. Ameen.

And Allah knows best.
 
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:salams

I have a question regarding this hadith:

http://sunnah.com/bukhari/8/86

Did the Prophet SAW curse ALL jews? I understand him cursing the jews who built graves over the Prophets AS. But, did the Prophet SAW curse ALL jews??

So does this mean every child born into a Jewish family is cursed? How is that fair?

So does this mean I can't do dua to Allah to guide the sincere hearted Jews? To guide the Jews?
 
Salam bro. I believe it MUST be for the ones who did this action but you are right from this narration one can understand that the curse goes to all jews..This is why I am skeptical with the hadiths even in Bukhari or Muslim...
 
And as for your post above..We shall not think in our minds of every kafir "you are going to Hell." This is not our job. Our job is to make dawah. Allah knows best what He will do with them.
 

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