Some misconceptions about Islam, or questions. Pls answer.

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@Serinity - Seriously, you need to calm down. You are getting way too many waswasa, seek refuge in Allaah from the shaytaan, and live your daily life. Recite Qur'aan, recite Darood Shareef.
 
Wa alaikum salam.

But I need them answered.

And does Quran say to not go with logic?
 
Serinity said:
Wa alaikum salam.

But I need them answered.

And does Quran say to not go with logic?
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There is a time and place for everything. Be polite and respectful to those who do you no harm. Love and befriend the believers for the sake of Allah. Be firm when an issue might compromise your deen. Have contempt for those who despise you because you are a Muslim. Have hatred for the sake of Allah for those who fight Islam and Muslims.
 
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Have hatred for the sake of Allah for those who fight Islam and Muslims.
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Define hate and fight please. What constitutes hatred and what constitutes fighting islam and muslims?

Is your local Christian dustman fighting Islam and Muslims? Do you have hatred for this dustman and if so what does this hate entail?

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Be polite and respectful to those who do you no harm
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never mind I misread this part.
 
But hatred that impedes you etc. and your everyday life.. how can you live with that?

Do you hate shaytaan? Yes. But does it make you miserable? no.

Btw, this verse:

http://legacy.quran.com/60/4

I read the tafsir, and it says to hate and despise and show enmity and hostility to those who disbelieve. Surely it is within context?

Cause honestly I can not hate kuffar personally who disbelieve in Allah SWT, of course I feel sad and a bit angry, but to hate them?

They probably have the same thoughts as I do, doubts, etc.
 
Serinity said:
But hatred that impedes you etc. and your everyday life.. how can you live with that?

Do you hate shaytaan? Yes. But does it make you miserable? no.

Btw, this verse:

http://legacy.quran.com/60/4

I read the tafsir, and it says to hate and despise and show enmity and hostility to those who disbelieve. Surely it is within context?

Cause honestly I can not hate kuffar personally who disbelieve in Allah SWT, of course I feel sad and a bit angry, but to hate them?

They probably have the same thoughts as I do, doubts, etc.
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Sister its not as black and white as this.

With regard to the context, all good.

With regard to your ability to apply that context to your life - not good.

I give you an example.

I live in London, and know many people who are not Muslim, I do not hate them, they are indifferent to my religion and I am indifferent to theirs - to them be their way and to me be mine.

Occasionally I find someone who hates me because I am Muslim - Do I now hate them back? And cause problems which make Muslims look bad over something that isn't even my problem but the problem of the hater? The better thing to do is to walk away from ignorance....

....Sometimes that is impossible. And in those cases, you argue with them in the best of ways, and if they refuse to play ball, walk away from them and ask Allah to save you from the trials of such situations.

Naturally you will feel an animosity towards this hater who is ignorant in such situations - and the Qur'an makes it clear that to feel this way is perfectly fine as they are the sworn enemy of Islam.

I hope this helps.

Scimi
 
Serinity said:
:salam:

I've some questions, and I will get straight to it.

A. I sometimes, get the impression that Islam is 'cult-like', cause some verses says to "be ruthless to kafirs, and kind and merciful to your brothers, Muslims" but there is also verses that says to be kind to those who don't attack you on deen....

B. Should we really hate kafirs, personally, because of their religion????????

C. Are there terms such as 'innocents' in Islam, regarding kafirs?

D. Are we only allowed to be kind to Muslims, even if they are rude.. What about the kafirs, if they are rude, shouldn't we be the mature one?


E. Verse 7:179 says.. Any explanation? Why would Allah punish someone, when they were created for Hell?


I understood that, everyone is born a Muslim, with the ability to believe. But if one does not practice or excerise that ability to discern/believe in truth, one will lose it.. But this ayats makes it sound that they were born with blind hearts. etc. How is it fair?


Would Allah punish someone for being confused? Not knowing? Not finding the truth? Not being convinced?
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Reading the biography of the prophet pbuh will give you all you answers sister :)

Scimi
 
Firstly, I am a bro, not a sister. :D

But thing is, whenever I try to do good, these verses come up.. and I probably have the same thoughts a kafir has, when he reads the Quran.

The context may be good - but how I apply it .. I am not good at applying verses. Cause when I read one verse, and then another.. I know it is bound to context.

If a hateful person came up to me and hated me and insulted me for being Muslim, I just end it peacefully, cause indulging in those games may be counterproductive.

you see, we say that how can they hate us for just being Muslim? Then how can we hate them for being Christian? Doesn't it go both ways?

And being indifferent, do you hate other religions? I hate their kufr, therefore their religion. But if I was to meet a christian, and say "I hate your kufr, and your beliefs, and religion. " the christian would get sad perhaps or not even want to be with me.

But that is truth yeah? We have to hate their religion.
May Allah SWT guide me. Ameen.
 
Serinity said:
Firstly, I am a bro, not a sister. :D
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My apologies :D

Serinity said:
If a hateful person came up to me and hated me and insulted me for being Muslim, I just end it peacefully, cause indulging in those games may be counterproductive.
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That's the proper way to do it. mashaAllah.


Serinity said:
And being indifferent, do you hate other religions? I hate their kufr, therefore their religion. But if I was to meet a christian, and say "I hate your kufr, and your beliefs, and religion. " the christian would get sad perhaps or not even want to be with me.

But that is truth yeah? We have to hate their religion.
May Allah SWT guide me. Ameen.
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I find other religions quite entertaining. Honestly, they are no different to me than Marvel or DC. If a Hindu tells me about his religion, I return with "that's fascinating"... it really is, doesn't make it (their religion) true though does it? :D

Scimi

EDIT: bro Serenity,

The sign of intelligence is being able to entertain an idea, without necessarily having to accept it ;) that's what I tell myself and it makes me smile, coz I get ideas on how to lead the donkey by the carrot. (donkey - person telling me of their religion / carrot - me asking them theological questions which make them do jumping jacks through the fine art of BS they attempt to master :D
 
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I am so caught up on hatred....... Sigh. :/LOOOOL

Not hating someone doesn't necessarily mean loving, yeah?

This is just eating me up, and I am probably projecting this on Islam, and thus thinking it is Islam that makes me like this. Which it doesn't.

I feel as though Islam makes me sinful for laughing or liking a kafir, or stuff like that.

I always thought like this - you extinguish fire with water, not with fire. As such you extinguish hatred with tolerance and peace, not hatred upon hatred.

Naturally I do feel animosity with those who lie about Allah SWT or insult Him SWT.
 
just breathe and remember that the shayateen do whisper doubts... and say your dua's. refocus.

Over time, you get better at it.

Take a rightful step, and Allah takes two towards you. But you need to step first.

Scimi
 
I've not read Quran for a while because of these doubts. Cause everytime I read Quran my doubts are reinforced. My answers lie in the Quran, but I don't understand the Quran, and when I read tafsir, I get even more confused. The Tafsirs on qtafsir.com are not helping me.

But what I will do is use logic, and determine for myself what I do in any situation. But this makes me feel sinful, cuz I have to use the Quran.

This leads me to think, in order to understand the Quran and being able to act upon it - you have to reason and use your brain and logic - for if one does not think, then how can one believe?

So I will use logic, but not independent of the Quran. I mean, I read the Quran, and then use my logic to deduce.

So the Quran is understood only by giving thought. If I just go by what is written without thinking I will go astray.

May Allah SWT forgive me if I said anything wrong. Ameen.

But I will keep thinking and using my logic. This seems to help me. :D

so only by thinking and then reading the Quran can one find solace and help. Without thinking, one can't see anything or take help from the Quran, so it seems.

Btw, does Islam say to hate other religions? I do know Islam says to not show enmity or defame other religions.
And Allah SWT knows best.
 
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We should actually hate their beliefs. For example we should detest the christian belief that jesus p.b.u.h is the son of god and alike.
But if the non-muslims do not come to islam after being called to islam in an appropriate manner and inturn hate it and are hostile towards Allah then they cannot be loved. As mentioned a muslim's attitude towards them depends upon their attitude towards Allah.But hating them in our hearts does not mean we should deprive them of their rights and oppress them.
 
I will just hate them like I hate shaytaan.

we hate their belief, which in turn we hate their religion. So by that I can't see how there can be peace between a kafir and a Muslim.

I know I am wrong, tho.
 
The link above also explains how to interact with them and what are their rights that they deserve.
 
I dont think so. you see if we give them their rights, as explained in the link, i dont think the two parties will be at war
 
Even for the enemies of Islam, I only hate their kufr, etc. But feel sad, as no knowledgable one would attack Islam so I see them arrogant or ignorant. and in need for guidance.. Rather than hating them personally.

Is that Islamic?

Btw, does Allah SWT hate every kafir? What about the ignorant, how is it fair to hate them? OR hate those who are depressed and go out of Islam?
 
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