Some Muslim schools 'make children despise the West': Ban on cricket and Harry Potter

[justahumane]

ok, it is good you are a believer in Allah, and i know you have said before you dont associate partners with him, unlike many others who share your religion of hinduism.

but do you believe the Quran is the true word of Allah? his revealed scripture to mankind to help guide them through this life and be successful in the next?

Well brother, earlier I didnt use to believe holy quran to be words of ALLAH, and I discuessed this topic here too. But I must admit that after going a bit deep into it, I somehow believed that it is word of ALLAH. Still when I talk to some guys like U and am told that ALLAH wants us to kill or hate his own creations, I simply refuse to accept that. Now even if I will burn in hell till eternity for sake of loving humans and humanity, than I have no complains, but I simply deny the notion that ALLAH has anything to do with hatred. The end.

Peace.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

2. they do it for nationalism, which is the same reasoning as the nazis, 'for the further and fatherland' is no difference to queen and country.

So what is your view of the Palestinian struggle for independence?

 

[Amadeus85]

I have read recently that a group of extremist muslims have insulted brittish soldiers coming back from Iraq. Some real brittish people tried to kicked their asses, but brittish polices protected the beadred wackos from them and accused them of racism. What a situation, what a country, where soldiers are insulted on their own soil. Thats just another reason to doesnt allow muslim immigration to my country and instead greet Chinese,Vietnamese,Nepalese, whatever else. Some people just dont know how to behave as guests.

 

[AntiKarateKid]

Well brother, earlier I didnt use to believe holy quran to be words of ALLAH, and I discuessed this topic here too. But I must admit that after going a bit deep into it, I somehow believed that it is word of ALLAH. Still when I talk to some guys like U and am told that ALLAH wants us to kill or hate his own creations, I simply refuse to accept that. Now even if I will burn in hell till eternity for sake of loving humans and humanity, than I have no complains, but I simply deny the notion that ALLAH has anything to do with hatred. The end.

Peace.

Listen. Allah tell us to love truth and hate falsehood. He tells us to treat out enemies like our friends. To restore relations with those who cut it off from us.
The only person worth disliking is the person Allah dislikes. Such people like the more murderous Meccan pagans who tried to hinder the Prophet pbuh's work, are worth shunning.

When judging what Allah wants us to do, look at the life of the Prophet pbuh and then see what the true Islamic character is!

If I may suggest a book, you should read "Muhammad: His life based ont he earliest sources" by martin Lings. It will inshallah open your eyes to what being a Muslim truly means.

 

[Uthman]

Greetings Aaron85,

I have read recently that a group of extremist muslims have insulted brittish soldiers coming back from Iraq. Some real brittish people tried to kicked their asses, but brittish polices protected the beadred wackos from them and accused them of racism. What a situation, what a country, where soldiers are insulted on their own soil.

At the end of the day, the police were upholding the law. The protestors were exercising their legitimate right to protest. The "real British people" (as you refer to them) violated the law by throwing things at the protestors.

Is it the actual laws that you disagree with?

Thats just another reason to doesnt allow muslim immigration to my country and instead greet Chinese,Vietnamese,Nepalese, whatever else. Some people just dont know how to behave as guests.

The word 'guest' implies that this isn't truly their home. Would you also believe that to be true if the people are born in this country?

Regards

 

[Amadeus85]

Greetings Aaron85,

At the end of the day, the police were upholding the law. The protestors were exercising their legitimate right to protest. The "real British people" (as you refer to them) violated the law by throwing things at the protestors.

Is it the actual laws that you disagree with?

I know that everything there wasnt against the law. But still I find it disgusting, and shocking that brittish soldiers are greeted with insults in their own home. In Pakistan, Afghanistan, Egypt I would understand, but this is UK right?

The word 'guest' implies that this isn't truly their home. Would you also believe that to be true if the people are born in this country?

Of course that I would believe that UK gave citizenship to people who insult their soldiers. As I said, what a situation! What a country! Where are people responsible for this situation.

 

[Yanal]

How is cricket and potter related forums linked with Jihad getting promoted?

 

[Suomipoika]

See my post which you still have not responded to. Change a few words around and you get what such "nations" like America always say. Yet... only that individual is nutz right?

There is nothing to challenge there. I think Reagan and Bush are/were nutters who did horrible damage to the world. Doesnt make her speech any less violent or bloodthirsty. She is just as crazy nutter than anyone wanting to destroy other countries. And you stood up for her and tried to explain what she might be meaning, while not even a hint of that peaceful insight ended up in her speech. That really is my objection how crazy it is that people will defend anyone and anything as long as they have some sort of ideological connection.

The word 'guest' implies that this isn't truly their home. Would you also believe that to be true if the people are born in this country?

Regards

How do you accept someone who openly hates you and your values? Does it really make any difference for their child? Do you understand why some of us would feel like calling them quests if they or their children simply hate you and everything you stand for? And this somehow is accetable but hating back is racist and islamophobia and its not really phobia if self proclaimed muslims like Themina there want to destroy you. Many of these haters hide behind the name of Islam and this does not seem to really bother majority of muslims for some reason. Unless newspaper prints it, at which point its time to attack the evil western media for spreading lies. There just isnt any real self criticism among muslims and muslim communities in Europe. Im still waiting for a prominent muslim leader in Europe to condemn the racist stereotypia of fornicating "kuffar dog" westeners.

 

[Uthman]

Greetings Suomipoika,

How do you accept someone who openly hates you and your values? Does it really make any difference for their child? Do you understand why some of us would feel like calling them quests if they or their children simply hate you and everything you stand for? And this somehow is accetable but hating back is racist and islamophobia and its not really phobia if self proclaimed muslims like Themina there want to destroy you. Many of these haters hide behind the name of Islam and this does not seem to really bother majority of muslims for some reason. Unless newspaper prints it, at which point its time to attack the evil western media for spreading lies. There just isnt any real self criticism among muslims and muslim communities in Europe. Im still waiting for a prominent muslim leader in Europe to condemn the racist stereotypia of fornicating "kuffar dog" westeners.

I'm not sure whether you understand the context of my words which you quoted, but the reason that Aaron seemed to be calling the Luton protestors guests was not because "they or their children simply hate you and everything you stand for". My understanding is that he thinks of them as guests because they are either immigrants or the children of immigrants. From this, it would then follow that I am a guest in this country since my parents are immigrants from Mauritius. That I am considered a guest in the country in which I was born and in which I belong is an idea that I find both offensive and absurd. Of course, I may have misunderstood what Aaron meant or I may be reading too much into it and I sinerely hope that I am since it would be hypocritical to think of immigrants as guests but expect them to integrate into wider society at the same time.

Peace

 

[Suomipoika]

Greetings Suomipoika, I'm not sure whether you understand the context of my words which you quoted, but the reason that Aaron seemed to be calling the Luton protestors guests was not because "they or their children simply hate you and everything you stand for". My understanding is that he thinks of them as guests because they are either immigrants or the children of immigrants. From this, it would then follow that I am a guest in this country since my parents are immigrants from Mauritius. That I am considered a guest in the country in which I was born and in which I belong is an idea that I find both offensive and absurd. Of course, I may have misunderstood what Aaron meant or I may be reading too much into it and I sinerely hope that I am since it would be hypocritical to think of immigrants as guests but expect them to integrate into wider society at the same time as time.

Peace

He seemed quite open for everyone else. My point was does it make any difference if the parents and the child hate you just as enthuastically regardless where the child was born if they absolutely try not to be part of their new home? How do you accept something like that beyond anything else besides quests?

 

[Whatsthepoint]

He seemed quite open for everyone else. My point was does it make any difference if the parents and the child hate you just as enthuastically regardless where the child was born if they absolutely try not to be part of their new home? How do you accept something like that beyond anything else besides quests?

British tourists.