Something I was Always Curious About

[snakelegs]

John Smith lived after Muhammad (pbuh), so he can't be a prophet.

i know - it was just a sample of my strange sense of humour.

 

[snakelegs]

:brother::sister:
why are we going on and on in this thread when allah and his messeger pbuh has asked us to abstian from what we are not sure about

are you saying it is wrong to question or discuss in order to learn? are we just supposed to be passively fed and not learn for ourselves - isn't this what islam wants its followers to do - learn for themselves and not just accept things blindly?

 

[snakelegs]

by the way, i find it interesting that the "big 3" western religions came out of the desert. in case you've never spent any time in the desert, it is a spiritually very powerful experience. there is a surprising amount of life there and it is an awesome combination of fragility and extreme strength.
there is just nothing like it and it's a wonderful place to feel close to god (which of course, you can do anywhere).

 

[Iconoclast]

are you saying it is wrong to question or discuss in order to learn? are we just supposed to be passively fed and not learn for ourselves - isn't this what islam wants its followers to do - learn for themselves and not just accept things blindly?

Orignal Post
quote=Hijrah;419775]
I realize that in the Qur'an it says that prophets were sent to every nation but why is it that all the known prophets are middle-eastern?

 Or is there an answer to this?

 Just wondering..

.[/quote]

IS THERE ?JUST WONDERING? <-----

now Sir we all have a very limited knowledge about the history of Islam ( Islam was there even b4 Adam , Islamic monotheism ) so it is better not to say nothing more than what u have read and understood ,

We Tried to explain and thats the best we can do.
if u know more than this about the post u r free to express it
Peace

 

[snakelegs]

point taken - i know little, and if every muslim was like you i don't think i'd learn anything either.
isn't this parotting?

 

[lolwatever]

are you saying it is wrong to question or discuss in order to learn? are we just supposed to be passively fed and not learn for ourselves - isn't this what islam wants its followers to do - learn for themselves and not just accept things blindly?

Actually not really, what is meant by that is, if something is simply beyond our capacity, then there's no point questioning and asking things that won't benefit us or just create unecessary confusion.

For example, it's pointless asking about the composition of Allah SWT or something like that, because it doesn't get us anywhere and it just adds confusion when its just beyond our capacity.... as for this issue, i don't think there's harm in discussing it.. but if it means that it's goign to endup in pure conjecture and time-wasting.. then nevermind it

 

[snakelegs]

Actually not really, what is meant by that is, if something is simply beyond our capacity, then there's no point questioning and asking things that won't benefit us or just create unecessary confusion.

For example, it's pointless asking about the composition of Allah SWT or something like that, because it doesn't get us anywhere and it just adds confusion when its just beyond our capacity.... as for this issue, i don't think there's harm in discussing it.. but if it means that it's goign to endup in pure conjecture and time-wasting.. then nevermind it

i see your point.
i just noticed that one of iconoclast's posts to me as well as part of my reply have completely vanished - poof!
strange.....

 

[mujahedeen2087]

Maybe these prophets started other world religions and they should actually be embraced by all.

over time these religions were changed, so we should respect them. not follow them. the quran was the last book revield by Allah. unchanged

 

[lolwatever]

just to not let this go unnoticed.. Iconoclast, bro i think what you said to seraching soul is very very very wrong and arrogant. Yeh he/she's agnostic and it's more important for them to learn about the fundamentals than it is about things that are (in comparison) less important.

But that doesn't give any of us an excuse to exclude them from learning or asking questions or even in debating with us, the prophet PBUH never done that, even though the people of book where asking him very naive and silly questions even. I don't think searchingsoul was being arrogant or trying to take a go at u.. she just wanted to find out something which is fair enough...

so don't be too quick to go attacking people like that, otherwise what is dawah if we're going to act stuckup and classify everyone as 'too crap for us to dispute with'??

sorry but i couldnt just let that pass.. especially that whoever just deleted those posts without making any corrections.

salamz

ok back to topic now, sorry but i had to say that. sorry 2 searchingsoul too btw 4 that.. as we know, Muslim's aren't always representative of what Islam is, it's the evidence they provide.

 

[Iconoclast]

lolwatever

just to not let this go unnoticed.. Iconoclast, bro i think what you said to searching soul is very very very wrong and arrogant. Yeh he/she's agnostic and it's more important for them to learn about the fundamentals than it is about things that are (in comparison) less important.

But that doesn't give any of us an excuse to exclude them from learning or asking questions or even in debating with us, the prophet PBUH never done that, even though the people of book where asking him very naive and silly questions even. I don't think searchingsoul was being arrogant or trying to take a go at u.. she just wanted to find out something which is fair enough...

I think u r talking about snakelegs . well i didn't mean to disrespect him as i address him as "Sir" then what he replied was insulting as he said "parroting" which makes no sense as he is asking questions that are beyond HUMAN knowledge and Allah Alone knows best.. now if i say in which B.C. ololwatever r post Hirjri Adam AS was sent down to earth ? and so on.... i will lead to know where just a pointless arguments and then later hatred for each other ( Human nature too as much as we can lie about it its true love,hate, is all god given)

I have read what ppl in this form said about Luqman , Zulkurnain. and so no... i am just a student of Islam and for that matter no one can fully understand the in depth meaning ( except the prophets who were given the knowledge through Gabriel AS ) as it is the words of ALLAH

so if i did hurt anyone i apologise. plz forgive me.

Let there be Love and Peace ( in Basic Islam Thread Atleast )

 

[snakelegs]

lolwatever


I think u r talking about snakelegs . well i didn't mean to disrespect him as i address him as "Sir" then what he replied was insulting as he said "parroting" which makes no sense as he is asking questions that are beyond HUMAN knowledge and Allah Alone knows best.. now if i say in which B.C. ololwatever r post Hirjri Adam AS was sent down to earth ? and so on.... i will lead to know where just a pointless arguments and then later hatred for each other ( Human nature too as much as we can lie about it its true love,hate, is all god given)

I have read what ppl in this form said about Luqman , Zulkurnain. and so no... i am just a student of Islam and for that matter no one can fully understand the in depth meaning ( except the prophets who were given the knowledge through Gabriel AS ) as it is the words of ALLAH

so if i did hurt anyone i apologise. plz forgive me.

Let there be Love and Peace ( in Basic Islam Thread Atleast )

even though you called me a fool, and said i made you want to puke, (a post which has magically vanished) i bear you no ill will. what i meant is that if all muslims had this attitude, there would be no reverts.
i have no desire to argue with you either.
peace.

 

[Iconoclast]

even though you called me a fool, and said i made you want to puke, (a post which has magically vanished) i bear you no ill will. what i meant is that if all muslims had this attitude, there would be no reverts.
i have no desire to argue with you either.
peace.

Peace and Inshallah forever :sorry:in i hurt u.

It takes a courage to admit a mistake and courage for the one who forgives and forgets

Ps. All muslims are not like me i am too weak in islamic knowledge.

 

[snakelegs]

Peace and Inshallah forever :sorry:in i hurt u.

It takes a courage to admit a mistake and courage for the one who forgives and forgets

so very true!
Ps. All muslims are not like me i am too weak in islamic knowledge.[/QUOTE]
i am really happy we had the opportunity to clear this up. we learn from each other.

 

[lolwatever]

awesome

so now, back to the prophets issue and the middle east matter ...

 

[Iconoclast]

awesome

so now, back to the prophets issue and the middle east matter ...

Btw :rock: as u help make peace between two humans . jazakallah khair