South Park-Cartoon Wars

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Arch_warrior said:
any muslim who watches that program must be seriosuly be lacking brain cells , i din't find it funny that the fact god was portrayed as half rabbit half frog looking thing astaqfurallah any muslim who dint even consider that seriously wrong is defently on the kuffar way of thinking , just remember allah is watching you!!!!!!!!
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It is the ridiculousness of the whole thing which makes it funny.

Anyone who takes this too seriously needs to relax a little.

I think God has a sense of humor.
 
Hey, everyone. If this thread descends into personal insults again (I don't care who starts it), I'll warn the offenders and lock this thing.

Thank you.
 
imaad_udeen.... you think Allah has a sense of humour? You think Allah would find it funny that he is being portrayed as grotesque beast with a filthy mouth? Akhee... please think about what you just said, coz i think the companions would have cut off your head for saying that!!!
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imaad_udeen said:
It is the ridiculousness of the whole thing which makes it funny.

Anyone who takes this too seriously needs to relax a little.

I think God has a sense of humor.
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I would have to agree. God has made us after his own image right? Since humor brings us so much joy why wouldn't it bring him the same joy?
 
imaad_udeen said:
It is the ridiculousness of the whole thing which makes it funny.

Anyone who takes this too seriously needs to relax a little.

I think God has a sense of humor.
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He does. Allah smiles and even Laughs as per some hadiths of the Prophet.

But not when the joke is about Him or His Prophet? That is no joke. To joke about the Prophet be it only in jest is an act of Disbeleif.

64. The hypocrites fear lest a Sûrah (chapter of the Qur'ân) should be revealed about them, showing them what is in their hearts. Say: "(Go ahead and) mock! But certainly Allâh will bring to light all that you fear."

65. If you ask them (about this), they declare: "We were only talking idly and joking." Say: "Was it at Allâh (ÚÒ æ Ìá), and His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?"

66. Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimûn (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.).


That is the reality. Surah Tawbah, you can look it up yourself. There is no 'relaxing' when the joke is directed towards Allah and his Messenger.

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~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
imaad_udeen.... you think Allah has a sense of humour? You think Allah would find it funny that he is being portrayed as grotesque beast with a filthy mouth?
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I don't know, it all depends on the intentions of those making the cartoon, and I think Allah knows that. I won't speak for Him.

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He does. Allah smiles and even Laughs as per some hadiths of the Prophet.

But not when the joke is about Him or His Prophet? That is no joke. To joke about the Prophet be it only in jest is an act of Disbeleif.

64. The hypocrites fear lest a Sûrah (chapter of the Qur'ân) should be revealed about them, showing them what is in their hearts. Say: "(Go ahead and) mock! But certainly Allâh will bring to light all that you fear."

65. If you ask them (about this), they declare: "We were only talking idly and joking." Say: "Was it at Allâh (ÚÒ æ Ìá), and His Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) and His Messenger that you were mocking?"

66. Make no excuse; you have disbelieved after you had believed. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you because they were Mujrimûn (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, criminals, etc.).


That is the reality. Surah Tawbah, you can look it up yourself. There is no 'relaxing' when the joke is directed towards Allah and his Messenger.

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The only way to know for sure if it was intended to mock Allah or not is to know what is in the heart of the people who created it. I don't know their true intention and it is not my position to condemn them. Isn't that Allah's decision?
 
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imaad_udeen said:
I don't know, it all depends on the intentions of those making the cartoon, and I think Allah knows that. I won't speak for Him.




The only way to know for sure if it was intended to mock Allah or not is to know what is in the heart of the people who created it. I don't know their true intention and it is not my position to condemn them. Isn't that Allah's decision?
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I think it is quite evident in the way the shows are. You can watch and get a pretty accurate view what the person means by the way the cartoon is made.

If he is using Allah in way that makes a person laugh at it and make it a matter of joke then its sad if someone thinks of what the creator's intention was. If he had a good intention then he would not have portrayed Allah or His Messenger in a degradatory manner, not to mention, make it a laughing stock among all the cartoon's viewers.

I quote you verses of the Quran and you are coming to me telling me of the persons intention. The verses dont say look at the intention, they are explicit that even "talking idly and joking" is Kufr. Imagine what is supporting such stuff. A person's actions reflect what is in his heart.

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They never showed Allah or Muhammed in a derogatory way. The only episode Muhammed was in was an episode in which he helped defeat David Blaine
 
knuckles said:
They never showed Allah or Muhammed in a derogatory way. The only episode Muhammed was in was an episode in which he helped defeat David Blaine
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I'd have to agree. If they showed him doing some unlawful act then yes its an insult. But they didn't!
 
j4763 said:
I'd have to agree. If they showed him doing some unlawful act then yes its an insult. But they didn't!
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1) Depicting him is insulting.

2) Using him to help some story line is insulting.

3) Using him to 'defeat' some pathetic nobody is insulting.

4) Making him a laughing stock is inulting.

5) And the list goes on.

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~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
imaad_udeen.... you think Allah has a sense of humour? You think Allah would find it funny that he is being portrayed as grotesque beast with a filthy mouth? Akhee... please think about what you just said, coz i think the companions would have cut off your head for saying that!!!
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With all due respect, you are not Allah's messenger, what a non muslim says about Allah and his messenger is between them and Allah.

Aslong as they aren't harming anybody you should not be concerened.
 
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imaad_udeen said:
I don't know, it all depends on the intentions of those making the cartoon, and I think Allah knows that. I won't speak for Him.

The only way to know for sure if it was intended to mock Allah or not is to know what is in the heart of the people who created it. I don't know their true intention and it is not my position to condemn them. Isn't that Allah's decision?
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'Abdullah ibn 'Utba ibn Mas'ud reported that he heard 'Umar ibn al-Khattab say, "Some people were dealt with by the revelation in the time of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace. The revelation has ceased. Now we deal with you according to what is clear to us from your actions. If anyone shows us good, we trust him and honour him. We know nothing of his inward. Allah will call him to reckoning in respect of his inward. If anyone shows us evil, we do not trust him and do not believe him, even if he says that his inward is good."
[al-Bukhari]
 
Genius said:
With all due respect, you are not Allah's messenger, what a non muslim says about Allah and his messenger is between them and Allah.

Aslong as they aren't harming anybody you should not be concerened.
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Yet, if he insulted your mother you would jump up to her rescue.... would it just be between them and your mother in that case? Why not issue this concern when Allah your Lord and Creator is being insulted? And those who say that they did not insult Allah are wrong, we worship the same God as the Jews and the Christians.
I am concerned brother. If they insult my God and my messenger, it is worse than if they killed me. You should feel this pain and anger too.
And jazak-Allah for the respectful reply.
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~Mu'MiNaH~ said:
Yet, if he insulted your mother you would jump up to her rescue.... would it just be between them and your mother in that case? Why not issue this concern when Allah your Lord and Creator is being insulted? And those who say that they did not insult Allah are wrong, we worship the same God as the Jews and the Christians.
I am concerned brother. If they insult my God and my messenger, it is worse than if they killed me. You should feel this pain and anger too.
And jazak-Allah for the respectful reply.
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Well they did. Are you still breathing? I guess it's not like killing you now is it.
 
I didn't see it was killing me, i said it would be even worse. You ever loved someone that much?:rollseyes
 
How exactly did they mock the messenger or insult him, the character portrayed had nothing in common with the Prophet except his name. All Gods/people from major religions were there. This is unlike the Denmark case where there was a deliberate smear campaign.

I think that its very shameful that people get worked up over unintentional portrayal in South Park whilst whilst do nothing about serious issues like American opression in the Muslim world, poverty, dictatorial regimes.
 
Genius said:
How exactly did they mock the messenger or insult him, the character portrayed had nothing in common with the Prophet except his name. All Gods/people from major religions were there. This is unlike the Denmark case where there was a deliberate smear campaign.

I think that its very shameful that people get worked up over unintentional portrayal in South Park whilst whilst do nothing about serious issues like American opression in the Muslim world, poverty, dictatorial regimes.
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They mocked both Allah and His Messenger. We've already stated before how. And no offence bro, but last time we were discussing jihad in another thread you called it 'terrorist talk'. So i guess we're not allowed to get worked up about anything. Are we not allowed to defend our deen? If I slapped you, and then said 'oh don't get worked up, i slapped everyone else!" would that justify it? I think the problem with the ummah today is that we have the lost the love of Nabiyullah (SAW) and Allah in our hearts, except that we utter it with our tongue. If you see something wrong akhee, you should condemn it if not stop it all together.
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