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NoName55 said:
^^ I have learned from bitter experience that I should not hit (virtual or physical) brickwalls with my feeble ole head. hence forth I :zip: and run when see one
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Maybe it would be more productive if you explained what you disagreed with?
 
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^^ Not a chance without my helper/advisor, each time I open my mouth about these "ulemaa" in his absence, someone slaps me with 45 infraction points
 
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:sl:

Maybe if you phrase your objection politely and respectfully no one will have a problem with it? Worth a try.

Which ulama are you referring to anyway? Because I mentioned the vast majority of the 'ulama of Islam follow that opinion, the four imams included (at least some of them, I am not certain if it was all of them).
 
NoName55 said:
^^ Not a chance without Br.Woodrow help, each time I open my mouth about these "ulemaa" in his absense, someone slaps me with 45 infraction points
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I really believe the ulema this time has right. If the man its so coward chicken that he can't say in front of her "i wish to divorce from you" he is not able to be neither a father or a husband for her. No respect for her feelings can't lead in future toward a normal marriage.
 
Tania said:
I really believe the ulema this time has right. If the man its so coward chicken that he can't say in front of her "i wish to divorce from you" he is not able to be neither a father or a husband for her. No respect for her feelings can't lead in future toward a normal marriage.
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hello there

my dispute is not about this one fellow (if indeed such a person does exist) but the general (bad) impression given about divorce in Islam.

I subscribe to the following method >> http://www.islamicboard.com/general/51843-speechless-post839139.html#post839139

wa salaam (and peace)
 
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NoName55 said:
hello there

my dispute is not about this one fellow (if indeed such a person does exist) but the general (bad) impression given about divorce in Islam.
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Hello
I don't think its making a bad impression about divorce in Islam. After me its more dangerous that short term marriage which was made legal. For men without character this its an ideal solution and i am for it. The woman will cry a bit but its for her good.
 
Tania said:
Hello
I don't think its making a bad impression about divorce in Islam. After me its more dangerous that short term marriage which was made legal. For men without character this its an ideal solution and i am for it. The woman will cry a bit but its for her good.
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short term marriage which was made legal
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there is no such thing allowed in authentic Islam (temp marriage is form of prostitution, to my knowledge only legal in one country called Iran)

bye
 
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NoName55 said:
there is no such thing allowed in authentic Islam (temp marriage is form of prostitution, to my knowledge only legal in one country called Iran)

bye
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Its not in Iran, its in Saudi.
bye
 
Tania said:
Its not in Iran, its in Saudi.
bye
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No, it most certainly is not legal in Saudi!:offended: I think you must be confusing it with something else. Where did you get this information from?:sunny:
 
Its a very good thread and shows clearly how are the men from today :) :
HeiGou said:
Can someone help explain this to me? I have tried to look it up on Wikipedia but I am still confused. I thought temporary marriages were banned in Islam? How can a proper Islamic marriage be temporary and without obligations? Is this permitted in Islam and if so, why?

Busy days for Saudi matchmakers
Published: Monday, 15 May, 2006, 11:35 AM Doha Time

RIYADH: Professional matchmakers in Saudi Arabia have boosted their business by 60% following the legalisation of ‘misyar’, a temporary marriage without obligations.

The Saudi newspaper Arab News said one reason why people resort to such secret but legal options is to avoid family responsibilities and others such as housing a woman and rearing her children.

The paper said ‘misyar’ has grown in popularity in the business community, among educated people and among women with private income as well as with the poor.

The increasing number of unmarried women is why such marriages have become more acceptable, said the paper. – DPA​
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Source:http://www.islamicboard.com/miscellaneous/20799-what-misyar-marriage.html#post310834
 
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if i'm not mistaken, these are marriages in which the man takes on no responsibility.
sometimes it is done when a couple is really too young to set up a household. they can continue to live separately with their parents, but can have relations like a married couple.
please correct if i'm wrong.
 
Tania said:
Its a very good thread and shows clearly how are the men from today :) :
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Tania, the article is incorrect. Misyar is not temporary at all.

From that same thread:
Misyar marriage can be defined as a marriage contract between a man and a woman, in which the woman waives some of the rights she would have in a normal Islamic marriage. This sometimes takes place when, for example, there are many women who, as they get older, find it increasingly difficult to marry. In this case a woman opts for a husband who is not able to fulfil the normal marital duties like financial maintenance, or spending adequate time with her, for example. She considers that marrying such a husband is better than remaining unmarried.​

The marriage is not temporary. :)
 
What Is Misyar Marriage?

Misyar marriage seemingly is a new phenomenon in Saudi where, as in most of our Muslim Ummah everywhere, there is an alarming rise in the number of unmarried women. In her article, Mariam Al Hakeem wrote

Misyar is described as a form of marriage in which the wife gives up her rights offered under the religion, including the right to have the husband living with her in the same house and providing her with necessary expenses. In short the woman gives up the right to have an independent home. The husband may come to see her at her parent’s home at whatever time he chooses for himself, or at a time agreed by the two.

for the rest see:

http://www.islamonline.net/English/family/2005/07/article04.shtml

also: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/...h-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544160
 
Malaikah said:
Tania, the article is incorrect. Misyar is not temporary at all.
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The people are making to be temporary. Please read the whole thread, including the articles which were posted by Salehah and you will understand why i said temporary like in the link which i gave. B?ut i wanted this morning only to aprove the divorce made at phone :-[
 
Tania,

His post was about not mutah, misyar. Mutah is temporary and forbidden. :)
 

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