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Salaamz everyone!
I hope I am not being rude or too opinionated, but we should focus on the deeds of others and not just their opinions, right? Would it be better to have the beard at the "right" length and his character be questionable? And isn't it possible to wear hijab (or jilbab) and act unseemly?
As I said before I hope my response and questions aren't taken the wrong way...
Masalam, Melissa
I'm sorry I meant to say "not just how the appear, right?":hiding:
 
We should focus on ourselves and focus on others only when it matters.

For example, if you want to have a financial transaction with someone, it's plain unwise to get an idea about his honesty by his beard. Get references from people who have dealt with him.

If you want a babysitter for your kids, long jilbab and niqaab would probably not be the first criterion. Has she been known to abuse children, is the daycare Human Services certified are all smart questions to ask.

Yes, it is possible that a person who has the correct length beard and a person with jilbab to act unseemingly. After all, we're all humans.

If they do act unseemingly, advise and let Allah handle the rest.
 
I really like the way you respond to advice. We need to learn from you. You have a good quality. You didn't ridicule my suggestion nor ridicule me as a person. I'd PM you this post, but I reckon, members should know that you are an example to follow.

I'm not praising you because you followed my suggestion, but you deserve it because through out the posts you maintain your composure and your post did not even show a shred of personal contamination. It's a hard thing to do, I admit.

FYI, I've met Dawood, Samy and 786 personally and I've discussed at length whatever issues that have been discussed here with them (except Samy). Well, not the beard though.

Trust me, if the some (some!) members here would take the effort to meet them and talk to them, I don't think we'd be decreeing fatwa about them.

And you didn't make up any excuse NOT to go ahead and give them a piece of your mind.


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jazakallhu kairan brother!!:happy: U shud read my hajj experience?? that i have written on the section hajj and id-ul adha!!

U personllay met dawud and 786 mashallah!! thank for being direct with me, its better to be open then hide rite??

It was quite hard to handle evryone, but sabr and being calm is the main thing!! Im not the person to give piece of their mind, i'll try to solve the matter and not make it big deal!!

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ive jus joined here
all i can say to all the brs/sis is that everday we all see on streets/tv etc young muslim brs/sis trying to live their life according to Q&S alhumdulillah.

yes including myself we are not doing it 100% wat i mean is (short/stylish beard, seethrough hijaab/jilbab etc) is a common fing amongest us youth, but u have to look at wat we were doing few years back (b4 comin 2deen) wats better u b the judge.

everyfing takes time, the more u study Al-Islam the more wiser u become inshA. and it will just be a matter of time b4 we cn live our life 100% according to Q&S. when we see sum1 who hasn't got fist full beard/proper hijab/jilbab etc pls advice them with hikmah


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everyfing takes time, the more u study Al-Islam the more wiser u become inshA. and it will just be a matter of time b4 we cn live our life 100% according to Q&S. when we see sum1 who hasn't got fist full beard/proper hijab/jilbab etc pls advice them with hikmah


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jazaks for the view!! well said, mashalah!! Wot does hikmah mean??

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asalam walykum

Yeh i have seen alot of it in Toronto, girls with jilbab have boyfrends...guys tht wear topee to school...there smokin weeed. The topee and jilbab or hijaab are turning into a style now.any ways Allah knows best. asalam walykum
 
asalam walykum

Yeh i have seen alot of it in Toronto, girls with jilbab have boyfrends...guys tht wear topee to school...there smokin weeed. The topee and jilbab or hijaab are turning into a style now.any ways Allah knows best. asalam walykum

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Yeah av seen this in london aswell, wots happening to da ummah?? May Allah(swt) guide and protect them inshalah!! It seems as if they see islam from their point of view!!

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Yeah av seen this in london aswell, wots happening to da ummah?? May Allah(swt) guide and protect them inshalah!! It seems as if they see islam from their point of view!!

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u cnt say may Allah (swt) guide them because Allah (swt) has already showed us the guidence through prophet (saw). yes u can say protect them

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u cnt say may Allah (swt) guide them because Allah (swt) has already showed us the guidence through prophet (saw). yes u can say protect them

Allah says in the Quran

O you who believe! enter into submission fully and do not follow the footsteps of Shaitan; surely he is your open enemy. [Surah Baqra Ayah 208]


Which shows that Imaan is in different levels, thus if one says May Allah guide them to muslims, it really means May Allah guide them to what is more pleasing to Him, and thus its not prohibited.
 
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Sister Helena i agree with you totally, many of the Muslims have taken these nasheed singers as role models instead of the Prophet(pbuh). So we must speak out and educate those people about the correct path of the Quran and Sunnah. Among the Majority of the ulema of the Salaf they agree the beard is Wajib and that shaving it is haram, they even go as far as saing that the person who shaves his beard his testimony will not be accepted and that he can not lead the Salah.
According to the Hanafis it is prohibited to shave the beard (Ad-Durh al Muktahr)
According to the Malakiis it is prohibited to shave the beeard (Sharh ur-Risalah)
According to the Shafiis it is prohibited to shave the beard unless you have a medical reason(Sharh al ubab)
According to the Hanbalis, Ibn Taymiyyah says it is prohibited to shave the beard (Al- Ikhtiyarat)

so from this it is quite clear that the Scholars of the Salaf agree that it is prohibited to trim the beard let alone to design in a way imitates the non believers.

The command of the Prohet(pbuh) are clear that you should leave the beards to grow, there is no authentic narration to sugeest that the Prohet or the comapnions ever shavedthere beards. However there are narrations from Ibn Umar, Ibn Abbass that whatever extended below the fist lenth would be trimmed "Abdullah Ibn Umar went for Hajj he used to hold his beard and cut what ever extended below his fist" (Bukhari)

There are many hadiths where Prophet(pbuh) told us to spare our beards and not to imiate the kuffar "closely trim the moustaches and spare the beards" (Bukhari) "cut the moustaches and grow your beards. Be different from the magians" (Muslim)

so brothers we can clearly see that the beard is something we can not take lightley, we must advice, educate, our brothers about this issue and give naseeah that the Prophet(pbuh) way is the right way, and highlight that other than is the hellfire.
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Sister Helena i agree with you totally, many of the Muslims have taken these nasheed singers as role models instead of the Prophet(pbuh). So we must speak out and educate those people about the correct path of the Quran and Sunnah. Among the Majority of the ulema of the Salaf they agree the beard is Wajib and that shaving it is haram, they even go as far as saing that the person who shaves his beard his testimony will not be accepted and that he can not lead the Salah.
According to the Hanafis it is prohibited to shave the beard (Ad-Durh al Muktahr)
According to the Malakiis it is prohibited to shave the beeard (Sharh ur-Risalah)
According to the Shafiis it is prohibited to shave the beard unless you have a medical reason(Sharh al ubab)
According to the Hanbalis, Ibn Taymiyyah says it is prohibited to shave the beard (Al- Ikhtiyarat)

so from this it is quite clear that the Scholars of the Salaf agree that it is prohibited to trim the beard let alone to design in a way imitates the non believers.

The command of the Prohet(pbuh) are clear that you should leave the beards to grow, there is no authentic narration to sugeest that the Prohet or the comapnions ever shavedthere beards. However there are narrations from Ibn Umar, Ibn Abbass that whatever extended below the fist lenth would be trimmed "Abdullah Ibn Umar went for Hajj he used to hold his beard and cut what ever extended below his fist" (Bukhari)

There are many hadiths where Prophet(pbuh) told us to spare our beards and not to imiate the kuffar "closely trim the moustaches and spare the beards" (Bukhari) "cut the moustaches and grow your beards. Be different from the magians" (Muslim)

so brothers we can clearly see that the beard is something we can not take lightley, we must advice, educate, our brothers about this issue and give naseeah that the Prophet(pbuh) way is the right way, and highlight that other than is the hellfire.
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Jazakallah Khair for giving all the daleels from ulemah of salaf and the Ahadeeths of prophet (saw).
i pray that we can implement this in our daily life inshA.

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Sister Helena i agree with you totally, many of the Muslims have taken these nasheed singers as role models instead of the Prophet(pbuh). So we must speak out and educate those people about the correct path of the Quran and Sunnah. Among the Majority of the ulema of the Salaf they agree the beard is Wajib and that shaving it is haram, they even go as far as saing that the person who shaves his beard his testimony will not be accepted and that he can not lead the Salah.
According to the Hanafis it is prohibited to shave the beard (Ad-Durh al Muktahr)
According to the Malakiis it is prohibited to shave the beeard (Sharh ur-Risalah)
According to the Shafiis it is prohibited to shave the beard unless you have a medical reason(Sharh al ubab)
According to the Hanbalis, Ibn Taymiyyah says it is prohibited to shave the beard (Al- Ikhtiyarat)

so from this it is quite clear that the Scholars of the Salaf agree that it is prohibited to trim the beard let alone to design in a way imitates the non believers.

The command of the Prohet(pbuh) are clear that you should leave the beards to grow, there is no authentic narration to sugeest that the Prohet or the comapnions ever shavedthere beards. However there are narrations from Ibn Umar, Ibn Abbass that whatever extended below the fist lenth would be trimmed "Abdullah Ibn Umar went for Hajj he used to hold his beard and cut what ever extended below his fist" (Bukhari)

There are many hadiths where Prophet(pbuh) told us to spare our beards and not to imiate the kuffar "closely trim the moustaches and spare the beards" (Bukhari) "cut the moustaches and grow your beards. Be different from the magians" (Muslim)

so brothers we can clearly see that the beard is something we can not take lightley, we must advice, educate, our brothers about this issue and give naseeah that the Prophet(pbuh) way is the right way, and highlight that other than is the hellfire.
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Jazakallahu kairan for agreeing with me, :happy: supprting it with evidence!! Alhamdulilah well explained!!!!

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