you speak like a kid...Sufism is a sect and we know how many sects there will be and how many will go to Jannah. Allah has already told us this.
you speak like a kid...Sufism is a sect and we know how many sects there will be and how many will go to Jannah. Allah has already told us this.
:bism: (In the Name of God, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful)
(Peace be upon you)
Well, that's a paralogism that you're putting there. Do we go to a doctor to learn about how to fix our car? Do we go to a mechanic to inform us on what is ailing us? It is imperative that a person learn knowledge from the right sources; and I obviously as someone who strongly believes in tasawwuf (Islamic spirituality) disagrees with you on many points, points which we've discussed previously and which I have no desire to rehash here again.
Listing a handful of scholars does not make up the vast tradition of what has been said about Sufism through the millennia, and as a man of reasonableness, even you should understand this logic sufficiently.
Also, I'm not interested in arguments for/against Sufism. I'm encouraging people to do their own research and reach their own conclusions like a good student would instead of relying on someone else's conclusions represented in this article. As you know, and as I've stated previously, I've already done my homework; and I've already reached my own conclusions.
:waAnd peace be upon you)
since it is NOT done according to the Quran and the Sunnah.
It is not we who are saying this.
Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) told us that: “Every innovation is going astray, and every going astray will be in the Fire.” Narrated by Muslim (867) and an-Nasaa’i (1578)
+ https://discover-the-truth.com/2015/01/23/quran-2225-unintentional-oaths/Concerning intention:Highest among the legal maxims of Islamic jurisprudence are those ranked as Normative (Al-Qawâ‘id Al-Qulliyyah Al-Kubrâ). These are maxims that are:1. Agreeable to all scholars and all Madhâhib.2. Have the highest degree of inclusiveness (of related branches of Fiqh).One such maxim is that: ‘Acts are judged by the intention behind them’Allāh (Subḥānahu ūta'āla) assures us that: ‘He will not call you to account for oaths you have uttered unintentionally, but He will call you to account for what you mean in your hearts. Allāh is most forgiving and forbearing.’ (Al-Baqara: 225).Commenting on this Âyah, Ibn Hazm writes that the soul is the object that is being commanded to carry out acts; yet the body is its machine, so should the soul intend to do something by its machine (the body), there can be nothing except what the soul has intended before. (cf. ‘Al-Ihkâm fî Usûl Al-Ahkâm’; Volume 5; page 132). From the Sunnah, we have:‘Narrated Al-Humaidi ‘Abdullâh ibn Az-Zubiyr that Sufyân that Yahiyah ibn Sa‘id Al-Ansâriy that Muhammad ibn Ibrâhîm At-Tiymiy that ‘Alqamah ibn Waqqâs Al-Liysiy that ‘Umar Ibn Al-Khattâb: Allāh's Messenger said: “The reward of deeds depends on the intentions and every person will get the reward according to what he has intended. So whoever emigrates for Allāh and His Messenger, his emigration will be for Allāh and His Messenger and whoever emigrates for worldly benefits or for a woman to marry, his emigration will be for what he emigrated for.”’ (Summarised from Sahîh Al-Bukhârî: ‘The Book of Revelation, 1’). And again:‘Narrated Yahyâ ibn Qaz‘ah that Mâlik that Yahyâ ibn Sa‘îd that Muhammad ibn Al-Hârith ‘Alqamah ibn Waqqâs Al-Liysiy that ‘Umar Ibn Al-Khattâb: Allāh's Messenger said: “The reward of a deed depends on the intention and every person will get the reward according to what he has intended. So whoever emigrates for Allāh and His Messenger, his emigration will be for Allāh and His Messenger and whoever emigrates for worldly benefits or for a woman to marry, his emigration will be for what he emigrated for.”’ (Sahîh Al-Bukhârî: ‘The Book of Revelation; 4783.’It is necessary for intention to be present so that one canistinguish between a deed that is for the pleasure of Allāh, or an act of worship, and one that is not.Distinguish between the Hukum of the deed; whether it a duty, obligation task, assignment, and so on (Wâjib); an optional worship (Nafl); or a vow to Allāh (Subḥānahu ūta'āla).Except for Hajj and Umra, intention is a matter of the heart:‘Should a man utter something which is different from what that is in his heart, what is in his heart takes the priority over what he utters.’ (Ibn Nujaim: ‘Al-Bahr ar-Râ’iq Sharh Kanz ad-Daqâ’iq’; Volume 2; page 171).As far as Sufi acts of worship are concerned (excluding the obligatory acts, of course) they are rightly classed as optional. As for the intention behind them; only Allāh (Subḥānahu ūta'āla) is able to judge what is truly in a person’s heart. This being so, it would be wise not to usurp His prerogative; not to make an ʾIlāh of ourselves.
what is ''comedy''. Speak like a momin.Bidah justifiers talking about what is bidah? I didn't know you did comedy too?
Who are these people ^ to judge one sect from another? is that permitted by God, moral or just? Unless one sect is oppressing the other by force and prohibiting their worship and way of life, is it any of their business?
Only God can judge a deviant sect surely?
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One thing i have never heard of is an oppressive Sufi..
They are called people of knowledge who are obeying Allah in enjoining good and forbidding evil, in advising the ummah against deviations and deviant paths. If you don't know who they are then perhaps you should worry more about that then about "judging" others.
And that "only God" can judge is really getting old. We are Allah's witnesses on earth, we have been given the knowledge (islam) to judge truth from falsehood. "only ALlah can judge" excuse will not hold up on Judgement day when Allah will question those who go astray or sin and others tried to warn and advise them.
who is a bigger oppressor than one who denies Allah His rights?
I would of thought no one, nothing can deny Allah His rights, except possibly the Devil if we let him..
When God sent Mohamed He made it clear from my interpretation of the Quran that He didn't want people talking for God, he wanted people to listen to God them selves, as has has no Partners or associates, its repeated over and over it becomes a point to take notice.
If people pray for Allaha's guidance, he will guide them if he wants to to, its between Him and his slave, only God can Judge how pure the hearts of his slaves are, if they are living righteous lives ..Only he can Judge such things surley? Who else can hear ones prayers?
So any one else forming associations in Gods name, telling others how to Pray and live their lives or belittling others or projecting anything negative on others, is a deviation from the path, who ever is doing it, imho?
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