Suicide Bombers will be in Hell.

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It is OK to kill anyone you don't like.
 
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wilberhum said:
Well your true self is now known.
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My true self is now known??? This is the truth, if you accept, recognize and directly support Israel you diserve wors than what Hitler and Saddam deserved.

The israelis are recognizing Israel as their country, they are recognizing their past as good acts, they deny the daily slaughtering of the palestinians and for that they deserve death! They barbarically stole the lands of the palestinians and did wors to the palestinians than what Hitler ever did to the to the jews, and we all agree that Hitler deserved a death sentence for what he did, so why on earth do you look at israelis as did they not deserve death?

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It is OK to kill anyone you don't like.
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No I never stated that.
 
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My true self is now known??? This is the truth, if you accept, recognize and directly support Israel you diserve wors than what Hitler and Saddam deserved.

The israelis are recognizing Israel as their country, they are recognizing their past as good acts, they deny the daily slaughtering of the palestinians and for that they deserve death! They barbarically stole the lands of the palestinians and did wors to the palestinians than what Hitler ever did to the to the jews, and we all agree that Hitler deserved a death sentence for what he did, so why on earth do you look at israelis as did they not deserve death?



No I never stated that.
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Too bad the post that exposed your true nature was removed.

Oh the old Hitler shet again. Now that truly tells about you.

Israel is worse than Hitler. I assume that is because Hitler mostly killed Jews.
 
wilberhum said:
Too bad the post that exposed your true nature was removed.

Oh the old Hitler shet again. Now that truly tells about you.

Israel is worse than Hitler. I assume that is because Hitler mostly killed Jews.
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Yeh sadely it was removed.

I'm not saying that Israelis are wors than Hitler because he killed jews and they did not and are not. I have nothing against jews but I have much against imperialists, and israel hapends to be the worlds biggest ánd most cruel and barbaric imperialistic country. Hitler warned the jews for over a month before he started executing some, the jews chose not to leave regardless of what Hitler said. They were executed in a less painless way.

Israel bulldozed the palestinian houses, some times with people inside, they slaughtered any insurgent, and killed any person who refused to leave his house. They barbarically stole more than 90% of the palestinian lands. As time went on the less than 10% palestine was bombed under many occasions, leaving them without runing clean water or normal electricity.

What Hitler did compared to what they did is nothing; Hitler may have killed many but he didnt kill and torture them in such a barbaric way, not to yet again mention what followed the many massacres.

THAT makes them worse than Hitler.
 
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Yeh sadely it was removed.

I'm not saying that Israelis are wors than Hitler because he killed jews and they did not and are not. I have nothing against jews but I have much against imperialists, and israel hapends to be the worlds biggest ánd most cruel and barbaric imperialistic country. Hitler warned the jews for over a month before he started executing some, the jews chose not to leave regardless of what Hitler said. They were executed in a painless way.

Israel bulldozed the palestinian houses, some times with people inside, they slaughtered any insurgent, and killed any person who refused to leave his house. They barbarically stole more than 90% of the palestinians.
As time went on the less than 10% palestine was bombed under many occasions, leaving them without runing clean water or normal electricity.

What Hitler did compared to what they did is nothing; Hitler may have killed many but he didnt kill and torture them in such a barbaric way, not to yet again mention what followed the many massacres.

THAT makes them worse than Hitler.
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krypton6
Where did you get your knowledge of history?
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You are obviously a graduate of the “Ostrich School of Reality”.
 
ok now there are many scholars who say suicide bombings etc etc are wrong, infact from what i have seen the scholars say its wrong, but they havent passed judgement on the bomber such as saying he is going to hell.

the hadith you site doesnt support that conclusion neither because the hadith you quote is something completly different to that of a suicide bombing.

for starters in the hadith the man commited suicide to ease his pain as he was wounded in a battle and could not take the pain so he killed himself to get it over with, that is nothing like a suicide bombing. suicide bombers use this tactic because it is one of the most effective and only main weapon they have in their arsenal that makes a strong affect and takes out many enemies.....suicide bombers go out intending to kill their enemies, its a mission, its like a battle, this hadith you mention is simply one man commiting suicide to ease his pain, just like the many thousand ppl who commit suicide a day.

so the hadith doesnt compare with suicide bombings, not at all...............

now yes it is wrong to kill civillians, but the Q is, are israelis innocent civillians? those who say yes need to go learn abit and educate themselves before quoting Islamic text to support an argument of theirs which is based on ignorance and falsehood from the start....

for starters israelis are NOT innocent, and its not because they vote for bad ppl, or live on occupied land, no, it is because every adult israeli from the age of 18 is enlisted into the army and is a reserve in the army, so basically that supposed innocent israeli selling dvd's one day can be a soldier firing shells into lebanease and palestinians villages on the next day. infact that is what happened in the 2nd israeli-lebanon war in 2006, hundreds of israeli reservists where called to the front line and started shelling lebanon killing hundreds of lebanease civillians. so no they arent innocent because they are all soldiers.....

now what about the children and elderly who get killed in israel??? well thats the fault of the israeli adults, because they have put these kids and elders in harms way, the fact is old ppl and children shouldnt be beside soldiers......and there is an Islamic text that says that if children are killed when there is no way to avoid it then it is isnt a sin, now tell me how can you avoid children being hurt when Israeli soldiers are taking them along with them?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its their own fault.

so sorry no such thing as an innocent adult israeli, the only innocent are the kids and elderly who no longer have to serve in the army, yet they are right in the middle of millions of other israeli soldiers, hence them sometimes getting in the way is regrettable but their own people's fault......

you dont expect me and others to believe that an israeli adult who can be called to bomb Muslim homes one day at any moment is an innocent person do you?????????????

so plz get your facts right on who is innocent in Israel.

now obviously suicide bombings in iraq and pakistan etc etc are wrong, because theyre targetting fellow Muslims, and theyre targetting areas which is mainly frequented by civillians such as markets, mosques, bus stations etc etc, and on top of that these fighters are more than capable of using other tactics than suicide bombings.

so you cant compare suicide bombings in israel with those in iraq or pakistan, and thats a fact, although neocon-zionists would like to say theyre all the same, yet the fact is is their not.......................................................
 
^^^I agree with you in some ways.

Imagine this; I break inside of your house, kill your wife and daughter who both refuse to leave their house, and kill your son who fights back. Your not alone and you are forced outside of your house.

Do you considere the murderes of your family inside of your house for civilians? NO you do not!

That alone justefies any attack on israel resulting in deaths!

PS; The elders are no better than the young ones, in fact the old israelis are the ones who invaded palestine and did the worst part so they TRULLY deserve the worst.
 
The_Prince said:
ok now there are many scholars who say suicide bombings etc etc are wrong, infact from what i have seen the scholars say its wrong, but they havent passed judgement on the bomber such as saying he is going to hell.

the hadith you site doesnt support that conclusion neither because the hadith you quote is something completly different to that of a suicide bombing.

for starters in the hadith the man commited suicide to ease his pain as he was wounded in a battle and could not take the pain so he killed himself to get it over with, that is nothing like a suicide bombing. suicide bombers use this tactic because it is one of the most effective and only main weapon they have in their arsenal that makes a strong affect and takes out many enemies.....suicide bombers go out intending to kill their enemies, its a mission, its like a battle, this hadith you mention is simply one man commiting suicide to ease his pain, just like the many thousand ppl who commit suicide a day.

so the hadith doesnt compare with suicide bombings, not at all...............

now yes it is wrong to kill civillians, but the Q is, are israelis innocent civillians? those who say yes need to go learn abit and educate themselves before quoting Islamic text to support an argument of theirs which is based on ignorance and falsehood from the start....

for starters israelis are NOT innocent, and its not because they vote for bad ppl, or live on occupied land, no, it is because every adult israeli from the age of 18 is enlisted into the army and is a reserve in the army, so basically that supposed innocent israeli selling dvd's one day can be a soldier firing shells into lebanease and palestinians villages on the next day. infact that is what happened in the 2nd israeli-lebanon war in 2006, hundreds of israeli reservists where called to the front line and started shelling lebanon killing hundreds of lebanease civillians. so no they arent innocent because they are all soldiers.....

now what about the children and elderly who get killed in israel??? well thats the fault of the israeli adults, because they have put these kids and elders in harms way, the fact is old ppl and children shouldnt be beside soldiers......and there is an Islamic text that says that if children are killed when there is no way to avoid it then it is isnt a sin, now tell me how can you avoid children being hurt when Israeli soldiers are taking them along with them?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its their own fault.

so sorry no such thing as an innocent adult israeli, the only innocent are the kids and elderly who no longer have to serve in the army, yet they are right in the middle of millions of other israeli soldiers, hence them sometimes getting in the way is regrettable but their own people's fault......

you dont expect me and others to believe that an israeli adult who can be called to bomb Muslim homes one day at any moment is an innocent person do you?????????????

so plz get your facts right on who is innocent in Israel.

now obviously suicide bombings in iraq and pakistan etc etc are wrong, because theyre targetting fellow Muslims, and theyre targetting areas which is mainly frequented by civillians such as markets, mosques, bus stations etc etc, and on top of that these fighters are more than capable of using other tactics than suicide bombings.

so you cant compare suicide bombings in israel with those in iraq or pakistan, and thats a fact, although neocon-zionists would like to say theyre all the same, yet the fact is is their not.......................................................
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You can't compare suicide bombings in Israel with those in Iraq or Pakistan? What is the difference? The number of ball bearings and nails stuffed into the bomb package?
 
wilberhum said:
Why not have a good read or two?

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/holocaust/timeline.html

http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/fsol.htm

Of course there are thousands of others.

The Holocaust is the most document atrocity in human history.
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I aint gonna read a whole website, you can point out what you want to point out instead of giving me the whole website to read my way through. What is it that I have said that you believe to be against history?

The second link hapends to be the website of the holocaust memorial, which is owned by jews :). Give me a neutral link.

And again; What is it that I have said that you find being wrong?
 
krypton6 said:
PS; The elders are no better than the young ones, in fact the old israelis are the ones who invaded palestine and did the worst part so they TRULLY deserve the worst.
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You posted some things earlier that forced me to reply. Or correct.

First of all, Osama bin Laden is the second worst person that walks on earth today. [ won't say who is first]

Yes, Israelis are doing stuff to palestine that goes against human rights, but then when somone has power over you, what can you do about it?

They are definatly not worst than hitler. PAINLESS WAY? if you consider burning human beings in an oven ALIVE is painless...then...I don't know what kind of body you are gifted with.

Brother, facts before debate. The weaker your evidence , the stronger your opponent, remember that.

Peace be with you brother.
Omari

Ps. Bin Laden is a coward. a really big coward that used my country to hide. If he calls himself somone who fights for Islam, i challenge him to fight with his men and not hide and give orders. Even the Prophet of allah (PBUH) fought in the jihad, does bin laden consider himself more important?
I am not his freind, i am not his enemy. But he definatly deserves to get punished.
 
Keltoi said:
Yes, no Jew..errr..I mean no Israeli is innocent. Sorry, but that is just hate wrapped in nonsensical justification.
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YAWNNNNN why dont you adress the part about every adult israeli being a reserve in the army who can be called up to bomb a house at any given moment, i.e. lebanon war 2006.........

i know you cant refute me, you never can......:shade:
 
Keltoi said:
You can't compare suicide bombings in Israel with those in Iraq or Pakistan? What is the difference? The number of ball bearings and nails stuffed into the bomb package?
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Iraqis and pakistanis are not imperialists, nor are they are generally criminals, murderes, or thieves, israelis clearly are.

Israelis are **** rich and they can when ever they wish to, leave israel, iraqis and pakistanis cannot do so. Israelis have stolen the lands of others, tortured the people and killed others, they do not recognize what they have done to be wrong or to be terrorism, the iraqis and pakistanis have not killed and tortured people after having stolen their country making them civilians.
 
krypton6 said:
I aint gonna read a whole website, you can point out what you want to point out instead of giving me the whole website to read my way through. What is it that I have said that you believe to be against history?

The second link hapends to be the website of the holocaust memorial, which is owned by jews :). Give me a neutral link.

And again; What is it that I have said that you find being wrong?
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Well Omari summed it up.
The fact that you "aint gonna read" shows your total lack if interest in the truth.
As they say, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink", comes to mind here.

You can't educate people who don't want to learn.
 
keltoi incase you didnt know i am closer to jews than you and your neocon allies will ever be........so dont play that stupid 'jew' card with me
 
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