Suicide survey

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1-I got more reponses than I thought I would thank you
Quick note about the poll ( I couldn't fit all the questions I wanted in the limited space) bros. woodrow did help alot and I thank him
2- My brother's friend committed suicide when he was in high school, that was some 17 years ago, he was a Muslim, thus I don't think anyone is immune from going over the edge.. sad thing is his mother never got resolution-- I saw her the other day, she has grand kids by her other son -- but she has never seemed whole.. in the beginning she used to gather around anyone who remotely saw or knew him not his friends to try to understand why?...
3- about anti-depressants.. indeed many SSRI's are implicated in suicides, hence folks need therapy along with medication but they are better than the older meds some which are implicated in such dangerous and lethal arrhythmia the likes of Torsades de pointes especially when mixed with other drugs some as remote as (anti-histamine) allergy pills .. further, if you knew the most accepted and number one treatment for depression most folks would protest it.. in fact it is Electric shock therapy.. and it is nothing like they show in the movies.. it is actually very effective and the number one side affect is short term memory loss, 6-12 treatments have proven curative-- but people wouldn't opt for that because of the stigma.. either way I think it is up to the patient and the psychiatrist to decide...
thank you for your participation...

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I'm a female who... Didn't exactly think about it... But, I did wonder about it. But it appeared pathetic and stupid. So I dropped it. Eurgh.

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PurestAmbrosia said:
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2- My brother's friend committed suicide when he was in high school, that was some 17 years ago, he was a Muslim, thus I don't think anyone is immune from going over the edge.. sad thing is his mother never got resolution-- I saw her the other day, she has grand kids by her other son -- but she has never seemed whole.. in the beginning she used to gather around anyone who remotely saw or knew him not his friends to try to understand why?...
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My first husband committed suicide almost 35 years ago. Please extend my compassion and empathy to that grieving mother. Suicide creates so many unanswered questions and guilt feelings in the loved ones left behind. The pain seems to be never ending. Tell her that, as a mother, I know she did everything she could to make her son happy, and that she could not have prevented his death. For whatever reason, it was inevitable, and I am sure that Allah (swt) in his mercy has forgiven him.
 
i dunno why but why does it seem as tho mainly teenagers commit suicide!!!
 
I meant failures in the affairs, which agitate their minds, resultantly they suffer from emtional tantrums and go over the brim. Such tendency may be due to other factors like inability to achieve perceived goals in life and tussles and tensions within families etc etc.
 
Sarada said:
My first husband committed suicide almost 35 years ago. Please extend my compassion and empathy to that grieving mother. Suicide creates so many unanswered questions and guilt feelings in the loved ones left behind. The pain seems to be never ending. Tell her that, as a mother, I know she did everything she could to make her son happy, and that she could not have prevented his death. For whatever reason, it was inevitable, and I am sure that Allah (swt) in his mercy has forgiven him.
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Wow.. I am really sorry..
I feel rather awkward around the lady.. she always wants for conversation, and I am just so mute around her.. I was very very young at the time, thus I don't feel it appropriate to bring it up...I'll never forget that day though.. and how my brother almost lost it.. he locked himself in his room for days not eating, just making prayers for that kid.. he had a very violent death too.. it was too horrid for anyone to imagine..

Anyhow at the end of this, I'll post some suicide facts, so that people may recognize them in their friends or loved ones.. it isn't like the sterotypes or what floats around as facts-- thus I just want to make a quick note.. that depression is a disease, no different than having diabetes or high blood pressure.. can only be compounded by feelings of guilt and stigma ..
anyhow the poll is running along the lines of the general population slightly skewed but given the limited number of participants, I think it is not that much different..
thank you and peace!
 
Neelam92 said:
i dunno why but why does it seem as tho mainly teenagers commit suicide!!!
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simple--- suicide prevents them from ever becoming adults who commit suicide.


By the time you reach older years there are fewer remaining people that are predisposistioned for suicide. they have done it before they can become an adult statistics.
 
Bah sorry. I voted before i read PA's post on she was wanting a muslim veiw.

Scratch off one male who has never thought of it please.
 
barney said:
Bah sorry. I voted before i read PA's post on she was wanting a muslim veiw.

Scratch off one male who has never thought of it please.
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No it is fine..
Sister's of mercy and no thoughts of suicide? interesting ;D
Your mother must have been Russia?

peace!
 
The poll seems to be reflecting what would be found in the world average.

Thoughts of suicide are quite common. Typically they are no problem, just a fleeting thought with no real idea of intent.

The problem comes about when they become obsessive thoughts, frequnt or even troubling. that is the time a person needs to seek professional help immediatly.

strangly, most suicide thoughts are not the result of a psychological disorder, physical disorders are the most common cause. there are so many physical causes of suicidal thoughts that a medical library could be filled by them. then you have the effects of some medications and of many illegal drug that often bring them about.

The sad part is most are treatable, very easily.
 
Suicide "Signs"

Extreme personality changes
Loss of interest in activities that used to be enjoyable
Significant loss or gain in appetite
Difficulty falling asleep or wanting to sleep all day
Fatigue or loss of energy
Feelings of worthlessness or guilt
Withdrawal from family and friends
Neglect of personal appearance or hygiene
Sadness, irritability, or indifference
Having trouble concentrating
Extreme anxiety or panic
Drug or alcohol use or abuse
Aggressive, destructive, or defiant behavior
Poor school performance
Hallucinations or unusual beliefs
 
that depression is a disease, no different than having diabetes or high blood pressure.. can only be compounded by feelings of guilt and stigma ..
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The best thing you can do for a person you believe may be suicidal, is TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY. Do not judge, do not think they are just trying to get attention, and be supportive.
 
I find it very significant that twice as many men said they have never thought about suicide, than women.

What do you think causes such a big discrepancy? Do you think women feel more helpless, or do you think its because men tend to act out more? Or could there be other reasons?
 
The statistics are somewhat true to life, women think about suicide more than men, but men are more successful at suicide than women.
All patients will seek help from a doctor but it will not be picked up on.. more women are likely to be diagnosed with depression than men who might be given a different diagnosis.. and contrary to popular belief men's success isn't due to the fact that they use violent weapons while women prefer a gentler way.. in fact when serious about it, they will both go for a hand gun. That is most popular amongst both sexes according to the DSM-IV...
however men will aim differently than women.. a man will go for the temples or the mouth, where as a woman might aim for her chest... 'vanity to the end' but studies have shown that women prefer to have their face in tact even in death lol-- I joke of course but this is no laughing matter...
The most successful group over all in committing suicide are elderly men who have been diagnosed with a terminal illness and have no support system.. or have lost a spouse... of course if someone can prove that teenagers dying in motor vehicle accidents aren't really just bad drunken drivers but in fact ending their life, it might tip the scale in a different direction....

peace!
 
Many times I've thought about it, but never really acted on it. I vent my anger and distress in writing, now I have books upon books of it. I don't do that anymore, I'm very happy in my life alhamdulillah.
 
Sarada said:
I find it very significant that twice as many men said they have never thought about suicide, than women.

What do you think causes such a big discrepancy? Do you think women feel more helpless, or do you think its because men tend to act out more? Or could there be other reasons?
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My own personal guess is that us men view suicide differently. we have a different connotation as to what the word means. We tend to think in terms of preserving our macho image so the thoughts a woman would label as thoughts of suicide, a man labels as being thoughts of manly anger.

We are egotistical critters and try to suppress what we think is weakness even to ourselves.
 
Sarada said:
I find it very significant that twice as many men said they have never thought about suicide, than women.

Do you think women feel more helpless, or do you think its because men tend to act out more? Or could there be other reasons?
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Generally speaking, women are seen as more emotional ones. Though, human beings are full of emotions, both men and women have emotions, same types of emotions but are expressed in different ways. Women tend to be more expressive and less controlling of their emotions whereas men tend to bottle up their emotions, women being sensitive about small little things that men might disregard or having no acknowledge.

Women tend to take congenial as always true.

Women take everything to heart.

Being emotional shows weakness. Men don't want to be considered "weak" :D
 

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