Support the troops but not the war?

[IAmZamzam]

It would be rather low to stoop down to that same level of the all too frequent jibes our dear brother aims at Muslims on board or at large.. but sometimes you wonder where his head and priorities are?!

Are you talking about me? Do you seriously believe that making jibes would be stooping to another person's level for you, instead of behaving so absolutely normally that nobody would ever possibly notice? Can you name me five posts of yours that don't take jibes at someone or other??

 

[IAmZamzam]

The wars in Asia were planned BEFORE 9/11, for oil, drugs and $$$. AMERICA is turning into NAZI Germany [if not already there]. how can you support people murdering innocent people?

Given how clear I've already made my position on the matter I'll assume that question isn't aimed at me, but as for the wars being planned, for all I know that could very well be the case but such an elaborate plot would never be necessary in that event, as the American government has never had much difficulty convincing the majority of the public that any war effort of theirs in the past was justified. All they have to do is stand there and lie; they'd never have to go to such elaborate lengths as a 9/11 conspiracy.

 

[جوري]

Are you talking about me? Do you seriously believe that making jibes would be stooping to another person's level for you, instead of behaving so absolutely normally that nobody would ever possibly notice? Can you name me five posts of yours that don't take jibes at someone or other??

Of course you leader of the pack and torcher of the flame do you see any other descending prolegomenon around here?
here is 122 of mine one shot:
http://www.islamicboard.com/health-science/134270536-medical-student-review.html
another 87
http://www.islamicboard.com/health-...-want-lose-weight-if-yes-then-enter-here.html

the first being the most visited thread on the forum amongst many others!.. would love to see something of yours this beneficial!

all the best

 

[IAmZamzam]

Of course you leader of the pack and torcher of the flame do you see any other descending prolegomenon around here?

prolegomenon: 1. a preliminary discussion; introductory essay, as prefatory matter in a book; a prologue.
2. Usually, prolegomena. (sometimes used with a singular verb) a treatise serving as a preface or introduction to a book.

here is 122 of mine one shot:

So you honestly don't know how insulting and inflammatory every single thing you write here is? Really? All you ever do is pour vituperations upon everyone you come into contact with. I can only hope you're nicer in real life.

 

[جوري]

So you honestly don't know how insulting and inflammatory every single thing you write here is? Really? All you ever do is pour vituperations upon everyone you come into contact with. I can only hope you're nicer in real life.

You seem like a fellow with a chip on his shoulder.. perhaps you feel a bit emasculated by all this? You've asked for five non-inflammatory posts and I have given you hundreds one shot.. this is your best come back? If you find my posts 'inflammatory' perhaps they're merited.. you should ask yourself what role you or others have played in that!

all the best

 

[IAmZamzam]

You can't come up with anything better than the five-year-old's tactic of "if I'm really being such a jerk then it's only because you people are making me do it" (really just a variation of, "Well, he started it!") and then you ask me if I can't come up with better comebacks? That's rich.

I find it hard to believe that you're incapable of grasping just how inflammatory you really are, even though I'm far from the only person to bring it up. You're just in denial. No one can be this clueless about their own venomous belligerence.

 

[جوري]

You can't come up with anything better than the five-year-old's tactic of "if I'm really being such a jerk then it's only because you people are making me do it" (really just a variation of, "Well, he started it!") and then you ask me if I can't come up with better comebacks? That's rich. I find it hard to believe that you're incapable of grasping just how inflammatory you really are, even though I'm far from the only person to bring it up. You're just in denial. No one can be this clueless about their own venomous belligerence.

I notice yes that you and two other atheist turds often bring it up yes!.. I can understand how not being able to perch on a place of your micturate and pound extra hard on your chest can lead to these all too frequent meltdowns. Surely if you were as brilliant as all that you wouldn't condescend to this level of immaturity and then project it or are you too good to be true? Your job here isn't to concern yourself with other members, rather elucidate your point in a logical fashion. If you're unhappy with a post report it or are you afraid that your fits will be seen as just that along with your army of two atheist bandits!
you keep losing credibility and grounds and I don't even need an adjuvant army to validate that fact!

Don't test my resolve!

all the best

 

[MustafaMc]

How do you explain the super high technology explosive, nano-thermite, and its signature residue, micro-spherules of elemental iron, in the WTC dust?

Yahya, since, you know absolutely everything, won't you kindly answer this single question with a reasonable answer?

 

[IAmZamzam]

I notice yes that you and two other atheist turds often bring it up yes!..

Other atheists? I'll just chock that up to careless wording.

I can understand how not being able to perch on a place of your micturate...

Once again you seem not to know the meaning of the words you use. "Micturate" is a verb and it means "to urinate".

...and pound extra hard on your chest can lead to these all too frequent meltdowns.

For heaven's sake, woman, what are you even talking about?! What's preventing me from pounding extra hard on my chest while I stand in my own urine and why would I be doing that in the first place??? What kind of metaphor is that anyway?? What's wrong with you??

Surely if you were as brilliant as all that you wouldn't condescend to this level of immaturity or are you too good to be true?

I don't remember calling myself as brilliant as anything. And I can't help but find it a bit ironic that the person making Tarzan peepee jokes is calling me immature.

Your job here isn't to concern yourself with other members, rather elucidate your point in a logical fashion.

And I try to keep to that but you're constantly undermining my efforts by coming into every thread and trolling me and everyone else every single chance you get. I'm no angel myself but when it comes to forbearance and gentility compared to I'm frickin' Mr. Rogers.

If you're unhappy with a post report it or are you afraid that your fits will be seen as just that along with your army of two atheist bandits!

So the people I'm constantly not getting along with are my lackeys now? Has it occurred to you that maybe we're all forming the same conclusion about you independently? Do you often see people claiming that "everyone is in on this together, they're all against me!" for any other reason than not facing the facts about their own position?

you really don't want to test my resolve!

And now you're actually stooping to threats. Surely you don't think you intimidate me?

 

[IAmZamzam]

Yahya, since, you know absolutely everything, won't you kindly answer this single question with a reasonable answer?

What gives you the impression that I think I know absolutely everything? For instance, I do not know the answer to your question. That's not a problem for me. Perhaps you can answer this one from the Loose Change Guide:

So, before we get back to the video, I'd like to propose a little thought experiment to the conspiracy believers. I've asked this before but no one has ever answered. Please describe, in as much detail as possible, what you would EXPECT to hear and see after a fully-loaded airliner hit a skyscraper at top speed, causing enormous damage, and the building caught fire to the point of collapse?

And when a billion-pound building does start to collapse, what would you EXPECT to see and hear at the lower levels?

Source

 

[MustafaMc]

What gives you the impression that I think I know absolutely everything? For instance, I do not know the answer to your question. That's not a problem for me. Perhaps you can answer this one from the Loose Change Guide:Source

No, I don't have an answer for that; however, the questions raised by scientific evidence should be examined rather than brushed aside and dismissed as part of a ridiculous 'conspiracy theory'. I don't have answers, only questions that aren't being properly answered.

 

[جوري]

Other atheists? I'll just chock that up to careless wording.

Indeed, frequent complainers!

Once again you seem not to know the meaning of the words you use. "Micturate" is a verb and it means "to urinate".

That is exactly what I meant. Animals micturate on a place they deem their turf and then pound on their chest.. you didn't get that? how awkward for you!

For heaven's sake, woman, what are you even talking about?! What's preventing me from pounding extra hard on my chest while I stand in my own urine and why would I be doing that in the first place??? What kind of metaphor is that anyway?? What's wrong with you??

It isn't a metaphor, that is how we describe your primaeval behavior!

I don't remember calling myself as brilliant as anything. And I can't help but find it a bit ironic that the person making Tarzan peepee jokes is calling me immature.

Oh so you do get it now three sentences down? you're too funny!

And I try to keep to that but you're constantly undermining my efforts by coming into every thread and trolling me and everyone else every single chance you get. I'm no angel myself but when it comes to forbearance and gentility compared to I'm frickin' Mr. Rogers.

I couldn't give a dam n for your existence here-- don't blame your shortcomings and failures on other members. You undermine your own credibility by having none and referencing folks to websites as opposed to addressing their concerns head on, you can't bother to make a modest effort and yet feel your mere quarrels glorified pearls!
I have been on this forum since 2006, yes I am an active member, participating on a thread doesn't denote that I am trolling you, it means that you are pitiful narcissist which is something we have concluded for quite sometime now!

So the people I'm constantly not getting along with are my lackeys now? Has it occurred to you that maybe we're all forming the same conclusion about you independently? Do you often see people claiming that "everyone is in on this together, they're all against me!" for any other reason than not facing the facts about their own position?

I don't subscribe to the victims mentality it seems the passive aggressive episodes are only yours to keep.. the complaints do come from you and a couple of atheists indeed, there have been multitudes of complaints about you, but we're not all petty enough to bring it up on every post!

And now you're actually stooping to threats. Surely you don't think you intimidate me?

gadflies are usually squished not intimidated!

all the best

 

[GuestFellow]

And yet I've already explained that:

The idea behind the expression, "I support the troops but not the war," is that there is no better way possible to support the troops than to protest their inclusion in a war that needlessly puts their lives at stake.

So by supporting the troops you are protesting their participation in the war because it puts their lives at risk?

o_o

It does not change the fact that supporting the troops means that you want them to succeed. In order for soldiers to succeed they must follow orders and fulfill the objectives of the war. In the process of following these orders, the enemy soldiers and civilians will be killed.

 

[IAmZamzam]

vale's lily, take some lithium and then get back to me.

So by supporting the troops you are protesting their participation in the war because it puts their lives at risk?

o_o

It does not change the fact that supporting the troops means that you want them to succeed. In order for soldiers to succeed they must follow orders and fulfill the objectives of the war. In the process of following these orders, the enemy soldiers and civilians will be killed.

You misunderstand me. What I was saying--and what the expression itself was actually supposed to be saying from the start--is that protestation of the war is the only true support for the troops, as it supports the true position that their lives should not be needlessly put at stake. Supporting the war means refusing to support the troops, as you're supporting the ruination and possible loss of their lives in a completely unnecessary war.

 

[جوري]

vale's lily, take some lithium and then get back to me.

That is more your cup o tea Mr. trazadone!

all the best

 

[GuestFellow]

You misunderstand me. What I was saying--and what the expression itself was actually supposed to be saying from the start--is that protestation of the war is the only true support for the troops, as it supports the true position that their lives should not be needlessly put at stake. Supporting the war means refusing to support the troops, as you're supporting the ruination and possible loss of their lives in a completely unnecessary war.

Oh I get it now.

 

[IAmZamzam]

That is more your cup o tea Mr. trazadone!

I take Trazodone to get me to sleep, not for my mood.

 

[جوري]

I take Trazodone to get me to sleep, not for my mood.

whatever you say!

 

[Hossam Al-Deen]

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