"Suspicious" packages from Yemen found in UK, and Dubai

[shuraimfan4lyf]

UPS Yemen Bomb Scare is a Hoax BBC Confirms NO Explosives

Obamas got midterm elections they need a bomb scare to swing votes his way ...the bomb scare is as real as you finding OBL under your bed....its never gonna happen

Ahh I knew it!.. even though its not on the Official BBC website.

EDIT: BBC Article confirms it.

Parcel bomb plotters 'used dry run', say US officials

A US official has told the BBC that suspect packages from Yemen were intercepted in September, in what may have been a dry run for last week's foiled parcel bomb plot.

The shipments from Yemen to Chicago are reported to have contained literature and other materials, but no explosives.

The idea was to test how long it would take for the packages to reach their destination, US officials suspect.

Last week, two parcel bombs were found on cargo planes in the UK and Dubai.

The parcels - with powerful PETN explosives hidden inside printer toner cartridges - were shipped from Yemen's capital Sanaa through UPS and another US cargo firm, FedEx.

Both packages - which have now been made safe - were addressed to synagogues in the US city of Chicago.

Investigators have linked the "dry run" and last weekend's bombs to al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

In other developments:

* Several countries have tightened air security measures, with the UK and Netherlands banning incoming cargo flights from Yemen and Nigeria - home to a man who tried to detonate a bomb in an aircraft over the US on Christmas Day - introducing explosive screening for some outbound freight
* Germany has taken it further, banning both cargo and passenger flights from Yemen
* Yemen has reacted angrily to the security measures taken by European countries, accusing them of "resorting to decisions which can only be likened to collective punishment" and reserving particular ire for the German measures
* The International Air Transport Association (Iata), which is holding an airline security conference in Frankfurt, has warned against governments "making knee-jerk reactions" to last week's bomb plot which it said could harm the air travel industry.

'One scenario'

The US official was speaking to the BBC about the apparent dry run on condition of anonymity.

It was first reported by ABC News on Monday and later by the New York Times.

They quoted intelligence officials - who also spoke on condition of anonymity - as saying that the shipments in September may have been used to plan the route and timing for the two parcel bombs discovered last Friday.

"That was one scenario that was considered," one of the officials told the New York Times.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11671377

 

[Woodrow]

r u 4 real. dis has a negative impact on obama even if was real! obama is goin to lose n dey will hve mad tea party lozers.

This is midterm not a Presidential election. Obama is not running in this race. He has only been trying to support some who are running for office. A number of State Governors are up for election. I assume Obama will try his best to get as many Democrats elected as possible. There are also some Federal Bills to be voted on. Right now many of the small business owners are against the latest health care bill as it seems it will put a heavy burden upon them to pay for it.

There are 39 States electing Governors today, there should be a high voter turn out in those State. The 11 States not electing a Governor today will probably have a very small voter turn out.
What I find interesting is there are 10 women running for governor today. This is tied with the highest number ever running at one time. I don't know what the impact will be, I see it as a sign of dislike for the current administrations and people wanting drastic changes.

 

[brotherubaid]

Hoax or not, explosives or not , elctions or not , one thing no one can deny , We have a problem on our hands.

So may be this was all a plot , may be it was all a big trick , but that does not mean we are not facing a great threat from Extremists.

Like i said before , Lets be honest and lets be just.

Lets take the middle path , Lets not say there is no al qaida and there is no bombing threat, and lets not say every bomb that goes off anywheer in the world its by al qaida.

Lets acknowldge n accpet the fact that there is a problem. and we need t fix it. By educating , by giving hard core dawah to those who have been afflicted by these ideologies, lets help and aid the scholars and students of knowledge in teaching the true teachings of Islam and the true was of jihaad, lets teach the Poor peopel who dont know no better , lets atleast spread the authentic Islamic Manhaj and methodology, lets teach our brohers n sisters and warn them from falling in such actions.

Even if this is proved to be hoax n all , this does not mean we can relax and there is no problem at our hands, we have a very serious problem , not only in the west but in the islamic lands as well, i mean come on!! if we hae terror incidents in the Saudi arabia which place can be safe from it? I mean this is the capital of muslims , this is the land of haramain the two holy mosques n sites, this is the holiest land and the most blessed place!! if this place is not safe no place is, if these murderous thugs did not have any shame commiting such acts in this blessed land know that no land will be safe from them, in the past few years there have been hundreds of incidents and killings, scholars have been targeted , leaders n royal family memebers have been targeted , civilains n government institutions n departments have been targeted and All praise is to Allah that many such plots were folied and may Allah give the saudi law enforcement more tawfeeq in their jihaad against the filth devils of these khawaarij and may Allah guide them or break their backs.

And Alhumdolillah, the saudi governemt when the catch individulas involved in such activities, They dont torture them or beat them up , raher they put them thorugh rehab programs, By Allah my brothers ns sisters go sit with the scholars and listen to the stories , go to any major scholar , go to the islamic uni of madeenah and sit with sheikh sulaiman al ruhailee and listen his accpunts and his experiences with such youth in rehab and in jails, The noble scholars themselfes go and adviose them with kindness, widom and most of ALL knowledge , coz these poor individuals have been mislead and misguided,

So we cant say there isnt al qaida n all, even if there isnt an al qaida , By Allah the Ideology is there , the thougts and thinking is there , these murderous n criminal activities are there and spreading , if we wil not help them out and guid ethem out of it they will not only lose their lifes n their hereafter, they will also end up killing hundreds n thousands of inocent people , frommuslims n non muslim alike.


And by they way, Nice try ! a 50 sec clip to prove it was hoax lol , im sorry but i cant buy that, stop denying and face the truth and acknowledge it and try to help out in any way u can.

A package was found in duabi as well, And all the packages did have petn n they were designed to go off, if not detonate they could have caused a fire, it could easily bring a plane down, if its apasseneger place hundreds will die, if its cargo still the crew will de n it will still be as sad as hundreds dying coz of What Allah said:

the one who kills one nafs is as he has killed the whole humanity! and teh one who saves it is as if he has saved the whole humanity

and there was a crash recently in dubai, Thank God the place crashed with in meters of residential places, any one familiar with duabi knows the place could have taken thousands of lifes, WHY?? coz there was a fire on borad, yes it has still not been proved that it was due to any such device, but who knows? we will never find out , but what we can prove from this is that by causing fire on board a plane u could kill not only its passengers but also hundreds of innocent people , muslism n non muslism on the ground.


May Allah save us from the acts n evil of these filthy devils, like the great sheikh al najmee called them! and like sheikh abdul mohsin al abbad called, them, , he said yes they are mujahids, mujahids in the way of shaytaan!!!



By the way u have also got the whole article wrong . it clearly says that the parcels in september were the ones with no explosives, it was literature n other materials , n the ones n september were dry-run, not this current one, the current one were devices that could have gone off or set off, detonated or caused fire, they each were very able to bring down the planes on which they travelled.



The BUT NO EXPLOSIVES that u have got in bold is about the septemnber parcels n packages , the recnet ones DO HAVE EXPLOSIVE MATERIAL , dont get too excited n get ahead of yourself. lol read it again akhi baarak Allahu feek.

 

[brotherubaid]

Ahh I knew it!.. even though its not on the Official BBC website.

EDIT: BBC Article confirms it.

Parcel bomb plotters 'used dry run', say US officials

A US official has told the BBC that suspect packages from Yemen were intercepted in September, in what may have been a dry run for last week's foiled parcel bomb plot.

The shipments from Yemen to Chicago are reported to have contained literature and other materials, but no explosives.

The idea was to test how long it would take for the packages to reach their destination, US officials suspect.

Last week, two parcel bombs were found on cargo planes in the UK and Dubai.

The parcels - with powerful PETN explosives hidden inside printer toner cartridges - were shipped from Yemen's capital Sanaa through UPS and another US cargo firm, FedEx.

Both packages - which have now been made safe - were addressed to synagogues in the US city of Chicago.

Investigators have linked the "dry run" and last weekend's bombs to al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

In other developments:

* Several countries have tightened air security measures, with the UK and Netherlands banning incoming cargo flights from Yemen and Nigeria - home to a man who tried to detonate a bomb in an aircraft over the US on Christmas Day - introducing explosive screening for some outbound freight
* Germany has taken it further, banning both cargo and passenger flights from Yemen
* Yemen has reacted angrily to the security measures taken by European countries, accusing them of "resorting to decisions which can only be likened to collective punishment" and reserving particular ire for the German measures
* The International Air Transport Association (Iata), which is holding an airline security conference in Frankfurt, has warned against governments "making knee-jerk reactions" to last week's bomb plot which it said could harm the air travel industry.

'One scenario'

The US official was speaking to the BBC about the apparent dry run on condition of anonymity.

It was first reported by ABC News on Monday and later by the New York Times.

They quoted intelligence officials - who also spoke on condition of anonymity - as saying that the shipments in September may have been used to plan the route and timing for the two parcel bombs discovered last Friday.

"That was one scenario that was considered," one of the officials told the New York Times.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11671377

NOPE THE BBC ARTICLE DOES NOT CONFIRM IT

read!!

It is taking about the parcels in september , they did not contain explosives n were a dry run for the RECENT one that DID CONTAIN EXPLOSIVES!

Akhi abdullahi subhanAllah , a 50 sec clip to prove it was hoax? come on akhi this does not suit u

The parcles could have blown up or atleast caused fire, which coudl have easily brought down the planes, just liek the recent UPS crash in duabi, which was due to fire on board, Alhumdolilah Allah saved the people on ground , there were many residential n commercial bilidings in very close areas of the crash , it wa just off the main highway, emirates road.

Any way and back to teh article

It clearly says the september parcles did not contaian any explosives, they were probably a dry run to see how much time it takes to get there and all. the septemner parcels contained books n literature BUT NO EXPLOSIVES , they went fom yemen to chicaho as well so don confuse them with this current attempt , u have got the whole thing wrong, woudl have never expected this from u akhi

This time aroudn it was with devices that contained explosive materials, or materials that cudl have caused damage.

why are we trying to protect the evil subhanAllah!

 

[5alim]

scared cows, they suspended most flights because of this from yemean and stuff......................... Cowards, it was nuthin..

 

[shuraimfan4lyf]

scared cows, they suspended most flights because of this from yemean and stuff......................... Cowards, it was nuthin..

exactlyy! its like a game they play every once in a while. Just when the mid-term elections come around, "al qaida" decides to sent some packages, right? I believe there is al-qaida, but many of the hoaxes are done by the intelligence agencies in the name of Islamic extremism. Al-Qaida did some mistakes by attacking some places in Saudia, but they have more good than bad.

They are in the right path, with the right ideology, which is Ahlus-Sunnah wa jama3. Before Osama Bin Laden, and Ayman al-Zawahiri migrated to Afghan provinces, Mullah Omar was not on the right aqeedah, OBL and them helped them come on the right Aqeedah.

 

[Rabi Mansur]

exactlyy! its like a game they play every once in a while. Just when the mid-term elections come around, "al qaida" decides to sent some packages, right? I believe there is al-qaida, but many of the hoaxes are done by the intelligence agencies in the name of Islamic extremism. Al-Qaida did some mistakes by attacking some places in Saudia, but they have more good than bad.

They are in the right path, with the right ideology, which is Ahlus-Sunnah wa jama3. Before Osama Bin Laden, and Ayman al-Zawahiri migrated to Afghan provinces, Mullah Omar was not on the right aqeedah, OBL and them helped them come on the right Aqeedah.

You are saying that Al Qaeda is more good than bad??? You are saying that they are on the right path???
I am dumbfounded. This attitude I find deplorable. How can you ever justify cold-blooded murder?

Do you remember the bombs that Al Qaeda did in Spain? They did it just before the election to influence the election. They are so dumb they would probably think that they could influence the US elections. And if they did, they would influence people in the US, but not in a way they think they would. It would create a very strong backlash.

Ackhi I really don't understand where you are coming from.

 

[جوري]

I have a difficult time believing that 'Al qaeda' exists.. If Muslims were this organized we'd not be under despot rule for a century!
you may not find this article credible but it is far more credible than the opinions I hear daily as if news!

"Al-Qaeda" Does Not Exist
Did Osama really choose to name his terror network after potty humor or was it a computer database he used to chat with his CIA handlers?​

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | October 6 2006 ​

The origins of the name "Al-Qaeda," and its real arabic connotations prove that every time the Bush administration, Fox News, or any individual who cites the threat of "Al-Qaeda," as a mandate for war and domestic authoritarianism, they are propagating the myth that such a group ever existed.​

An organization by the name of "Al-Qaeda" does not exist and has never existed outside a falsely coined collective term for offshoot loose knit terror cells, the majority of which are guided by the Pakistani ISI, Mossad, the Saudis, MI6 and the CIA, that were created in response to America's actions after 9/11 - as the recent NIE report shows.​

According to the BBC documentary The Power of Nightmares , the infamous footage of Bin Laden marching around with armed soldiers was a ruse on the part of Osama himself, graciously propagated by the lapdog press, in which actors were hired off the streets, given uniforms and guns and told to look aggressive.​

Note the video states Bin Laden only took on the Al-Qaeda mantle post-9/11 after the U.S. government began parroting the term. The only error is the now debunked myth that 9/11 was carried out by "Al-Qaeda."​

So if the group doesn't exist, where did the name come from?​

You have heard before that "Al-Qaeda" roughly translates into "the base," but were you aware that "Ana raicha Al Qaeda" is arabic colloquial for "I'm going to the toilet"?​

Would hardened terrorists hell bent on the destruction of the west name their organization after a euphemism for taking a ****?​

The truth about where the name "Al-Qaeda" originated explains why no would-be fundamentalist suicide martyr could have been involved in its creation.​

Former Leader of the House of Commons Robin Cook, who admirably resigned in protest of the 2003 Iraq invasion, penned a piece in the London Guardian shortly before his death that shed light on the true genesis of the name.​

"Al-Qaida," states Cook, "literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians."​

Former French Military Intelligence official Pierre Henry Bunel expands , noting that "Al-Qaeda," was an early form of intranet, which was used by Islamic nations and influential families to communicate with each other. It was also used by the "American agent," Osama bin Laden to send coded or covert messages back to his CIA handlers from Afghanistan.​

It's worthy to conclude with Bunel's assertion that "Al-Qaeda" as an organization is about as genuine as George W. Bush's Texas brush clearing cowboy image.​

"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the 'TV watcher' to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the US and the lobbyists for the US war on terrorism are only interested in making money."


​

http://www.infowars.com/articles/terror/al_qaeda_does_not_exist_bin_laden.htm

 

[Rabi Mansur]

Ukhti you know I'm just learning Arabic. Al Hamaam is bathroom, right? Al Qaida is it really "colloquial" for bathroom? Seriously?

I will look into what you posted.

شكرا

I'm trying to remain open-minded. It is hard to know what to believe and what is propaganda.

 

[جوري]

Ukhti you know I'm just learning Arabic. Al Hamaam is bathroom, right? Al Qaida is it really "colloquial" for bathroom? Seriously?

I am sorry maybe I missed something, where does it say hamman in the post I linked?

al qaeda literally translates to 'the base' qa'dat alhamam means toilet seat, but I have no idea how that relates? does going to the john's or having an operational terrorist organization named after the john's make them any more or any less credible. I try to look at the complete picture.. like a picture with alleged God fearing Muslims getting lap-dances or a surviving Saudi passport .. if the details need to be tweaked alot then chances are, we are not getting the correct picture.

 

[Rabi Mansur]

I am sorry maybe I missed something, where does it say hamman in the post I linked?

al qaeda literally translates to 'the base' qa'dat alhamam means toilet seat, but I have no idea how that relates? does going to the john's or having an operational terrorist organization named after the john's make them any more or any less credible. I try to look at the complete picture.. like a picture with alleged God fearing Muslims getting lap-dances or a surviving Saudi passport .. if the details need to be tweaked alot then chances are, we are not getting the correct picture.

It doesn't say Al Hamaam in the post you linked, I was just trying to clarify if Ana raicha Al Qaeda really meant what the post said it did, that's all. Just clarifying since I don't know Arabic. I knew what Al Hamaam meant but not the other.
Anyway, it does make sense that if Al Qaeda as an operational organization really doesn't exist it would explain a lot. The neoconservatives always need a big bad enemy to fight against. Without that, how can they whip people up into a frenzy? They always need a big enemy to justify their power.

 

[جوري]

It doesn't say Al Hamaam in the post you linked, I was just trying to clarify if Ana raicha Al Qaeda really meant what the post said it did, that's all. Just clarifying since I don't know Arabic. I knew what Al Hamaam meant but not the other.
Anyway, it does make sense that if Al Qaeda as an operational organization really doesn't exist it would explain a lot. The neoconservatives always need a big bad enemy to fight against. Without that, how can they whip people up into a frenzy? They always need a big enemy to justify their power.

people have many Euphemisms for bathroom, I don't know if that is one, I haven't personally heard of this one but heard of other hilarious ones.. I think there is alot that we don't know.. I am very suspicious of the govt. in general and not just the U.S govt. at least here the opposition always forces some sort of transparency that one simply doesn't see in the middle east.. but patience insha'Allah..

 

[Ramadhan]

From http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=16786&context=va

The Oil chokepoint and other oily affairs

The strategic significance of the region between Yemen and Somalia becomes the point of geopolitical interest. It is the site of Bab el-Mandab, one of what the US Government lists as seven strategic world oil shipping chokepoints. The US Government Energy Information Agency states that "closure of the Bab el-Mandab could keep tankers from the Persian Gulf from reaching the Suez Canal/Sumed pipeline complex, diverting them around the southern tip of Africa. The Strait of Bab el-Mandab is a chokepoint between the horn of Africa and the Middle East, and a strategic link between the Mediterranean Sea and Indian Ocean." [9]

Bab el-Mandab, between Yemen, Djibouti, and Eritrea connects the Red Sea with the Gulf of Aden and the Arabian Sea. Oil and other exports from the Persian Gulf must pass through Bab el-Mandab before entering the Suez Canal. In 2006, the Energy Department in Washington reported that an estimated 3.3 million barrels a day of oil flowed through this narrow waterway to Europe, the United States, and Asia. Most oil, or some 2.1 million barrels a day, goes north through the Bab el-Mandab to the Suez/Sumed complex into the Mediterranean.

An excuse for a US or NATO militarization of the waters around Bab el-Mandab would give Washington another major link in its pursuit of control of the seven most critical oil chokepoints around the world, a major part of any future US strategy aimed at denying oil flows to China, the EU or any region or country that opposes US policy. Given that significant flows of Saudi oil pass through Bab el-Mandab, a US military control there would serve to deter the Saudi Kingdom from becoming serious about transacting future oil sales with China or others no longer in dollars, as was recently reported by UK Independent journalist Robert Fisk.

It would also be in a position to threaten China’s oil transport from Port Sudan on the Red Sea just north of Bab el-Mandab, a major lifeline in China’s national energy needs.

In addition to its geopolitical position as a major global oil transit chokepoint, Yemen is reported to hold some of the world’s greatest untapped oil reserves. Yemen’s Masila Basin and Shabwa Basin are reported by international oil companies to contain "world class discoveries."[10] France’s Total and several smaller international oil companies are engaged in developing Yemen’s oil production. Some fifteen years ago I was told in a private meeting with a well-informed Washington insider that Yemen contained "enough undeveloped oil to fill the oil demand of the entire world for the next fifty years." Perhaps there is more to Washington’s recent Yemen concern than a rag-tag al Qaeda whose very existence as a global terror organization has been doubted by seasoned Islamic experts.

 

[brotherubaid]

skhi shuraim fan for life

Al qaida are neither ahlus sunnah wal jammah , nor are they on teh right aqeedah, een if they were on the right aqeedah their manhaj is not that of ahlus sunnah wal jammah, nor is their way and methodology of jihaad.

Nor is osama bin laden from ahlus sunnah nor mullah umar nor al zawahiri , i dont know where u got all that from , quote me a scholar or a reliable person coz no disrespect i cannot take your words for it.

And is u want to knwo what scholars of ahlus sunah wal jammah have said about al qaidah, as a group or as an ideology (for those who dont belive it exists, ts ideology does exist without a doubt n those who ascribe themselfes to it do exist) see what the scholars have said about al qaida and osama bin laden n all the individulas u have praised to be from ahlus sunnah wal jammah, they are all not in any way or form from ahlus sunnah wal jammah, nor from the aqeedah point of view nor from their jihaad ideology , their manhja is messed up, their way of jihaad is messed up, they are completely misguided and these are not my words rather the words of the scholars, THEY ARE THE KHAWWARIJ!!

Khawwarij are not just the ones who revolt against a just ruler, i would suggest u akhi fo rthe sake of Allah to get ur facts straight, stick to the scholars, learn from them , get ur facts and ur methodology right from teh scholars and stop foloowing and praising and supporting these individulas, who did want tpo do jihaad, but they used the wrong ways n means for it, killing civilian alll over the world , muslism n non muslims, and i am talking about the Bombings that THEY THEMSELFES HAVE CONFESSED AND TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR.

Its shameful to praise them , they are dogs of teh hell fire , and Allah knows best, but their actions are not those of Muslims and maY Allah save u from their fithnah.

Read what the scholars say about khawaarij , about OBL, about all them lot.

http://www.answering-extremism.com

http://www.islamagainstextremism.com/

www.takfiris.com

www.authentictranslations.com

www.themadkhalis.com

May Alah save u

 

[Argamemnon]

No. I can look at the title of most threads (such as this one) and tell you before I look that multiple Muslim posters will claim that the story is false and that America/Israel is really behind it. Do you deny this?

Many Muslims are taught to make denial their first reaction when hearing about anything negative done by Muslims, and to immediately find a way to place the blame on the two biggest bogeymen in the world - USA and Israel. They are taught that Muslims do no wrong, and that when they do it is because some evil American or Jew tricked them into it.

If my comment was a crazy prejudiced generalization then you would not see such conspiracy theories on just about every single thread involving bombings or other terrorist acts.

Ever heard of false flag operations? The Bali bombings are just one example;

http://911blogger.com/node/12872

 

[shuraimfan4lyf]

I am just tired of everything. Some say Osama Bin Laden was a CIA agent bla bla bla. Only Allah knows who is really doing Jihad fee Sabeelillah. I just hope the truth comes out clearly. Allah knows the best. And I shall be patient and wait, from now on take no ones side.

 

[titus]

Ever heard of false flag operations? The Bali bombings are just one example;

Yes, every terrorist act blamed on Muslims is actually a false flag operation.

Muslims that would kill innocent people do not exist. It is only Israel and their Zionist puppets in the West that do it in disguise.

 

[جوري]

Muslims that would kill innocent people do not exist. It is only Israel and their Zionist puppets in the West that do it in disguise.

Now you got it!

all the best

 

[titus]

And last night the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus came over to my place for dinner.

 

[جوري]

And last night the Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus came over to my place for dinner.

if you are in America that is bound to happen, Jesus and the ghost also makes frequent stops I have been told by some members here!

all the best