Syrian Children Being Sold in Europe"

[IslamicRevival]

Secondly, what is the so-called "crime" you are talking about?

Human trafficking. It is a vile, disgusting abhorent crime under Secular, and most importantly Sharia Law.

Under Shafi Islam the wife and offspring are the property of the husband.

No one owns another human being the way you are interpreting it. Yes the husband has to have a certain measure of control over Family but it has to be within Islamic guidelines, Women and children have rights too and no one has the authority to take that away from them.

Watch this and reflect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc8lXfAZ448

 

[Karl]

Human trafficking. It is a vile, disgusting abhorent crime under Secular, and most importantly Sharia Law.

If that IS what Sharia Law stands for then perhaps I have to be glad that I don't choose to live in Sharia jurisdiction. As a fierce parental sovereigntist I regard it my exclusive right to raise my own offspring AS I SEE FIT. I simply would never tolerate any outsider (ESPECIALLY those that are not even of my own race) intruding in my domestic affairs!! Such vermin DIE if they ever want to try.:raging: If I ever want to sell my offspring I WILL, and YOU or any OTHER busybody most certainly won't dare stop me. It is NOT your business! For your information, I don't happen to be interested in selling my offspring ANYWAY. I marry off my daughters very young so there's no actual NEED for me to get rid of them. But my point is that it is nonetheless my RIGHT AS A FATHER to sell my offspring if I so hypothetically choose.

Furthermore "trafficking" is often what the Zionist West propaganda machine dysphemistically refers to as what is otherwise known as simply "asking for a reverse dowry".

No one owns another human being the way you are interpreting it. Yes the husband has to have a certain measure of control over Family but it has to be within Islamic guidelines, Women and children have rights too and no one has the authority to take that away from them.

Wrong. MY OFFSPRING ARE MY PROPERTY. I OWN THEM. YOU have no authority over the domestic affairs of my race. GET OVER IT AND GO AWAY.

 

[sister herb]

I marry off my daughters very young so there's no actual NEED for me to get rid of them.

Salam alaykum

Does this means that it is you and only you who decides who your daughters will marry? Doesn´t islam teach that woman has right to decide by herself who she will marry and who she doesn´t?

^o)

What if your daughter decides that she doesn´t marry when she is very young or not marry at all? But she has to do what you want because she is your property?

 

[Karl]

Salam alaykum

Does this means that it is you and only you who decides who your daughters will marry? Doesn´t islam teach that woman has right to decide by herself who she will marry and who she doesn´t?

I allow my daughters to express what they think. You're right that Islam advises this too. But it also states that ULTIMATELY the decision can be overridden by the father. I have never felt the need to actually do that.

What if your daughter decides that she doesn´t marry when she is very young or not marry at all? But she has to do what you want because she is your property?

I have the right to force her to marry if I want, because yes she is my chattel. I do however tend to give my daughters a choice not to marry, yes, but if they choose not to marry very young they get disowned by me and are considered a disgrace to the family. It hasn't happened yet because they all liked the idea of marrying very young (what the totalitarian Zionists and Marxists call "under age").

 

[sister herb]

she is my chattel

Salam alaykum


All respect to your way to believe but...

A chattel? A human being is a chattel? Is this how islam teach to think? So when you was a child you was a chattel of your father, right?

 

[Karl]

Salam alaykum


All respect to your way to believe but...

A chattel? A human being is a chattel? Is this how islam teach to think? So when you was a child you was a chattel of your father, right?

Walaikum salam. Yes, I deem my offspring to be my chattel. They become free agents when I bestow independence upon them. But while they are my chattels they remain completely under my authority and no outsiders have even the slightest say whatsoever, just as I have no legitimate say in how they raise THEIR offspring. It is simply none of my business. Yes, I was the chattel of my father too when I was young and I had no issues with that, and I still have no issues with it now. I thought that was completely natural that I was under the sole authority of my father and that no outsider had any rightful say in matters to do with how my father decided to raise me. And my family intends to forever continue that tradition. The arrogant and busybodying Marxist and Zionist imperialists don't like it but I just don't care about what they think. They can go to hell.

 

[sister herb]

Salam alaykum

Only what I have to say to you is that may Allah guide you to understand islam as well than it is possible.

 

[Futuwwa]

And now for more ---:

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No previously-married woman should be married off without being consulted, and no virgin should be married off without asking her permission.” They said: “O Messenger of Allaah, what is her permission?” He said: “If she remains silent.” Sahih al-Bukhari #4843, Sahih Muslim #1419.

 

[Muhammad]

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Let us please avoid attaching our own ideas onto Islamic Law and tarnishing it with inappropriate labels.

If that IS what Sharia Law stands for then perhaps I have to be glad that I don't choose to live in Sharia jurisdiction. As a fierce parental sovereigntist I regard it my exclusive right to raise my own offspring AS I SEE FIT. I simply would never tolerate any outsider (ESPECIALLY those that are not even of my own race) intruding in my domestic affairs!!

Brother, Muslims believe that Shariah Law has been divinely revealed in the Qur'an and the Sunnah, so we cannot choose to disregard any part of it. Whatever your personal views, it is not your right to do as you wish. Allaah :swt: is our Creator and as Muslims we have submitted to His guidance, which covers all aspects of life, including family life. Our family is a responsibility and a trust from Allaah :swt:, and we will be asked about how we discharged our responsibilities. Also, once again, you made a comment that indicates a degree of racism. You should be aware from previous discussions that racism has no place in Islam. Please spend time learning about these aspects of Islam before posting about them on forums.

I am closing this thread to prevent further posts showing disregard for Islamic teachings.