Tabarik...Allowed or Not

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I have literally seen people going to different Durbars doing strange acts like doing Sajdas..Dancing of Qawalies. They actually become senseless while performing such acts.
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You aren't doing it are you? Then why worry? They are going to their grave and you are going to yours.


Please don't mislead me here..you mean to say when someone Noble from my relative will pass away I should make Darbar on his grave and ask people to come on this darbar for their manats.
Making Durbars is a Human Concept and I have not found any reference.
 
We do our jobs to earn money so that we can buy TV,Mobile,microwave etc.We can't correlate them with Durbars.
Ok one point of you is very Valid that we must respect Aulia Allah's (As I do)as they are very noble person of GOD, But have they(Aulia Allah's) told people once they will pass away their Graves must be converted into Durbars.
 
السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته

I'm not sure how, but this thread seems to have turned quite nasty. Sister Insaanah has cleared up the matter in her post, it should have ended there.

To clarify: it is NOT permissible to make dua to someone OTHER than Allah. Also, it's not permissible to adorn graves, place shawls and flowers upon them, visit them so that a need may be fulfilled, seek blessings from the one inside, leave money for them, place food there etc.

There is nothing wrong with visiting the graves of awliyaa in order to be reminded of death and because of the high status Allah has bestowed upon them. We can find countless examples of ulama visiting such graves in accordance to the Sunnah.

OP:If the food has come from the darbar then it is best avoided.

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Mufti Ebrahim Desai said:
Allah Ta'ala commands in the Qur'aan, 'O you who believe! Fear Allah and be
with the Saadiqeen (truthful ones).' (Tawbah). Here, it is inferred that
company of the pious is instrumental in assisting one towards the goal of
Taqwa (fear of Allah). It is therefore, imperative that such a pious one be
'Muttabi us Sunnah' (a strict adherent of the Sunnha) so as to advise and
assist others in attaining this goal. Such a person is indeed worthy of
respect within the limits prescribed by the Shari'ah. It also follows that
one who is himself involved and encourages practices and customs contrary to
the Sunnah can never assist others except in Dhalaal (misguidance).

Many great and worthy personages and staunch upholders of the Sunnah have
contributed tremendously to the service of Deen and have since left this
world. They were indeed great 'Awliyaa' (friends) of Allah. Sadly, after
their demise, some ignorant members of society fell into a great mischief.
With hollow claims of Ta'zeem (according honour) and Muhabbat (love), they
have began perpetrating such heinous evils that shake the very foundations
of Deen. Were the Awliyaa, in whose names these are carried out, alive, they
would have been the first to outlaw them. Among these evil practices,
hereunder are some of them:

Kissing or Bowing before Graves
Among all the evils perpetrated by these persons, these are surely the most
heinous. Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) had expressly forbade that any
person prostrate before him. He said, 'Were I to command anyone to prostrate
before another, I would have commanded the wife to do so before her husband.
' (Targheeb).

The learned scholars of Islam have clearly stated that such innovations are
absolutely Haraam and in some situations, even Kufr. This can be understood
from the following text (extracted from authoritative works):

'Whoever bows to the king with the intention of Ibaadat, becomes a Kaafir
(disbeliever). It appears in Khulasa that, 'whoever prostrates before them
with the intention of Ta'zeem (showing honour) like the Ta'zeem of Allah Ta'
ala, he will become Kaafir. If his intention is just a greeting, some Ulama
have accepted the view that he will not become a Kaafir (but such an act is
Haraam). This is the most apparent view. Some Ulama, however, hold the view
that he will become Kaafir in all cases. Concerning kissing of the ground,
this is very close to bowing, except that placing the forehead or the cheek
on the ground is worse than the cheek.' (Fataawa Mahmoodiya vol.10 pg.60
quoting Fiqh Sharhul Akbar).

"Bowing to any besides Allah is Haraam." (Ibid)

"The best method when visiting the graveyard is to place one's back towards
the Qibla while facing the Mayyit (deceased) and make Salaam. The hands
should not be passed over the grave, nor should it be kissed or touched, for
such is the custom of the Christians." (Ibid from Tahtaawi)

"One should not cling to a grave nor touch it . one who is learned should
inform and warn others against those innovations perpetrated by the
ignorant, that Tawaaf (circumambulation) of the holy grave of Nabi
(Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) takes place as around the Ka'bah and that the
hands be passed over it or that it be kissed." (Ibid from Mudkhal)

The above quotations should be sufficient to portray the magnitude of
perpetrating these acts of Shirk.

Strewing of Flowers Upon Graves
Mufti Mahmoodul-Hasan Gangohi (RA) has aptly replied to this question. He
writes, 'Stewing flowers or Chadars (shawls) upon graves is incorrect.
Although it has been narrated that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) had
planted branches upon two graves, this was only because the occupants of
those graves were suffering punishments. Then too the blessed hands of Nabi
(Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) were used (which is not insignificant). When
using this as substantiation for the practise of strewing flowers upon the
resting places of the pious servants of Allah Ta'ala, is it then done out of
the belief that these great personages, Allah forbid, are suffering divine
punishments? Also, aside from those two graves, it is not established that
Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) planted branches on any other occasions."
(Fataawa Mahmoodiyya vol.1 pg.195; Mazhari)

We wish to add that should one sincerely wish to practise upon the Hadith,
which cannot in any case, be a basis for establishing Sunniyyaat (a practise
being Sunnah), why adhere to flowers, an item according great importance by
the Hindu religion?

May Allah guide us all... Ameen thumma Ameen.

و عليكم السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته
 
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