You are right, the Mujahedeens who fought with Soviets and Talebans are two different groups (that even fought with each other in nineties). Im just suprised that Islamirama doesnt know it.
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You are right, the Mujahedeens who fought with Soviets and Talebans are two different groups (that even fought with each other in nineties). Im just suprised that Islamirama doesnt know it.
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well if you keep watching that trash on your tv then you will rot you brain buddy. And the invaders are only killing civilians in their war OF terror. You won't find afghani ppl on their side. Afghans are proud ppl, they have never been controlled. Russia occupied them for decades and at end had to go home defeated and they were brutal in their killings and torture. Don't expect much from current invaders either except shamelessly go home after all the massacre and chaos they have caused.
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The taliban regime was cruel and oppressive. The US brought human rights and freedom, no matter what their actual intentions were.
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lady go look up some facts. Taleban were given power by the people for fighting war lords and bringing security back to afghan. Cruel and oppressive the US that murdered and massacred afghans left and right, calling them all talebans. Go read up on war crimes of US and invasion of afghan.
Funny how ppl sitting in the west think they are expert of the stuff they are spoon fed by their lie media.
I know that NATO forces do kill innocent people there. I believe that it is hapenning by mistake. But at the other hand, are you aware that the same amount of people dies because of taleban's atatcks? You do or not? Because it is reality.I agree that Afgans are proud people and its good that they got rid of Soviets, but you think that Afghanistan under taleban was succesfull and happy country? Where girls couldnt even attend the schools and people lived in great poverty? Wasn't the action of talebans in the 90's also messing in in Afghanistan politics? To remind you, talebans are students of pakistani quaranic schools. Who taught them and what for? And why talebans wanted to protect OBL after 9/11? Why didnt they give him to USA?
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Lady? Wow! Your true knowledge is showing.:hmm:
Look up some facts? Good advise, you should try it. :giggling:
The Taleban were not given power by the people, they took it by force. :?
The "Cruel and oppressive the US" (That you live in) attacted the power that protected an international terrorist nad his orginization.
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what are the 'human rights' and 'freedom' that the afghani people enjoy? oh yes they can watch porno and have an entry in the 'Miss World' pageant...gee three cheers for the good ol' u s of a. in the meantime the same problems, including oppression, that existed before still exists. as a matter of fact the oppression is worse these days. except us/uk turns a blind eye, cos they have their puppets in charge and they must by all means keep churning out the propoganda about how beauty salons have brought happiness to the lives of afghan women......
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And talebans by destroying school where girls are learning and killing the teachers are helping this country right?
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Some of the Taliban take there wives and children to the battle field. Drop a bomb on the guy who is shooting a grenade launcher at you and 5 innocent civilians are killed.
Remove the grenade launcher and now you can say 6 innocent civilians were killed. The Taliban say “We will install Sharia Law” and they are assumed to be the “Good Guys” by millions of Muslims.
The vast majority of the world saw them for what they were.
Human rights abuses denied it United Nations recognition and most world's states, including Iran, India, Turkey, Russia, USA and most Central Asian republics opposed the Taliban.
Most of them are nothing but power hungry, kidnapping, drug running, misogynistic criminals.
Remove the grenade launcher and now you can say 6 innocent civilians were killed. The Taliban say “We will install Sharia Law” and they are assumed to be the “Good Guys” by millions of Muslims.
The vast majority of the world saw them for what they were.
Human rights abuses denied it United Nations recognition and most world's states, including Iran, India, Turkey, Russia, USA and most Central Asian republics opposed the Taliban.
Most of them are nothing but power hungry, kidnapping, drug running, misogynistic criminals.
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Women were prohibited from driving and working. Girls above the age of 7 were denied the right to educate. They were not allowed to attend general hospitals - there was only one all-female hospital in Kabul, a city with a population of nearly 3 million.
Apart from that they banned all non-islamic stuff, such as music, shaving etc. They destroyed one of the alrgest and oldest Buddha statues in the world!
And they too killed unarmed civilians.
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More proof that all the West does all day is witch porno. :uuh:
Do you think shooting women in the back of the head in a public stadium brought women happiness?
do you really maintain that women are not suffering in every conceivable way under the present regime in afghanistan? if you think the afghan government, or the us government, or the uk government, gives two hoots about the happiness/safety/security/education of afghan women then I have nothing further to say to you.
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I think they all give about one hoot.
ffended:Sad to say, I think you are right.
But at the same time it is not there intent to harm women.
There always seams to be a tendency to forget what caused the invasion.
It was not to liberate women it was to take down a terrorist organization that declared war and attacked the US, and there supporters, the Taliban.
Have we done a good job? No way. We have done a horrible job.
For what ever reason, Bush forgot what and who caused 9/11 and went off to start another war. But that is another story.
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True. However the invasion did bring some positive side effects, i. e. women and other gropus have more rights than before.I think they all give about one hoot.
Sad to say, I think you are right.
But at the same time it is not there intent to harm women.
There always seams to be a tendency to forget what caused the invasion.
It was not to liberate women it was to take down a terrorist organization that declared war and attacked the US, and there supporters, the Taliban.
Have we done a good job? No way. We have done a horrible job.
For what ever reason, Bush forgot what and who caused 9/11 and went off to start another war. But that is another story.
It brought lots of negative side effects as well...
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Nothing is all good or all bad.
Even though we have done it badly, I think invasion was our "Least Bad" choice.
So why did these two countries oppose Talibans? What do you think?
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India's problem with terrorism is probably there reason.
Iran I would guess general sectarian hatred. That is always in the for front.
But if I was you, I would focus more on why the other 180+ did not recognize them.
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