Taliban to U.S.: End drone strikes in Pakistan, or no more polio vaccines

[جوري]

You may not have said it directly this time (although I have read other posts on the board saying exactly that), but what you say speaks volumes- the west wants to exterminate all Muslims. On these forums the west is accused of just about everything. You have shown your own hatred and intolerence when you called me and other non-Muslims filth last year.

You have no credibility! None whatsoever- It is inconsequential to me what others say or what you think others say, as it turns out this too is very much like your Taliban fiasco from the so-called Afghans you know 'personally' on that other thread- you should still feel disgraced from it and it is a conundrum your inability to learn from such a public experience where you've been humiliated due to frank lies you concoct and can't evince. You miss the whole concept of a debate, how to counter an accusation raised with logic and even when rude you don't do it with finesse!
If you want to make a point --- try to put your money where your mouth is. If you want to evince something about my person, then don't bring me what 'others' say.. it seems you are having a difficult time sorting through the facts, understanding what is written and distilling a logical conclusion from what is presented you!

best,

 

[glo]

This thread has turned into yet another slanging match of personal attacks. :hmm:

Has anybody yet commented on the original discussion whether the Taliban is right in threatening to deny children the polio vaccine in response to the drone attacks?

 

[Muhammad]

This thread has turned into yet another slanging match of personal attacks. :hmm:

Indeed!

Please address points made by each other, not personally attack the person.

 

[Roasted Cashew]

Has anybody yet commented on the original discussion whether the Taliban is right in threatening to deny children the polio vaccine in response to the drone attacks?

They won't comment on that because they are weak and don't have the willpower to stand by what's right. Instead, they will spew conspiracies, will target me or the source...Anything but answer the question and stay on topic. Bunch of hypocrites.

 

[جوري]

I addressed you in the first post.. what is this intellectual bullying? NO to drones, they can always get their polio vaccines from else where- they're not only manufactured in the west.. try to use your mind to assess what is a priority-- believe me your mind is an asset if you use it right and a complete determent if you use it as you've displayed.
You're amusingly funny.. almost as much as parrot and me too.

best,

 

[LauraS]

as it turns out this too is very much like your Taliban fiasco from the so-called Afghans you know 'personally' on that other thread- you should still feel disgraced from it

I am not disgraced by what I put in the other thread, what I wrote was perfectly true and if you just simply claim I am a liar because you don't like what I put, maybe you should feel disgraced.



As to on-topic subjects. Is this story actually confirmed? How can anyone think denying children polio vaccines is ok, just because it's the Taliban? Same as Americans shouldn't think drone attacks that kill families is ok just because it's America and they are the "goodies" as some see it. And I don't believe conspiracy theories that the vaccinations are secretly sterilising Muslims. :hiding: It just seems to scraping the barrel for reasons to defend the Taliban's actions.

 

[جوري]

I am not disgraced by what I put in the other thread, what I wrote was perfectly true and if you just simply claim I am a liar because you don't like what I put, maybe you should feel disgraced.

A liar is someone who makes a deliberate prevarication to save face but can't back it up. I have given two examples or rather I made an example out of you twice!

best,

 

[Roasted Cashew]

There's no actual reliability for this news. Unless a Taliban spokesman confirms, believing what western media reports is unwise.

Is this story actually confirmed?

Another Pakistani source below. Here it also shows Urdu-language pamphlet distributed by militants in Pakistan’s tribal regions which has warned health workers to stay away from polio vaccination campaigns or face dire consequences.

DAWN NEWS:
http://dawn.com/2012/06/25/another-militant-group-bans-polio-vaccination-seeks-end-to-drone-strikes/

 

[Pygoscelis]

Do you guys agree with the Taliban or do you think they should not have bargained children's limbs?

If this is true, it is just odd, and it is hard to see the Taliban here as acting any more morally than the US is. They are trying to ward off the US's vile behaviour by threatening to do even more harm to themselves? Seriously? Its like saying "Stop punching me or I will start kicking me!" If the US is as evil as they say, then why would the US care if they harm their own children?

 

[LauraS]

If this is true, it is just odd, and it is hard to see the Taliban here as acting any more morally than the US is. They are trying to ward off the US's vile behaviour by threatening to do even more harm to themselves? Seriously? Its like saying "Stop punching me or I will start kicking me!" If the US is as evil as they say, then why would the US care if they harm their own children?

True...

Then I don't think the Taliban are any more moral than the US. The whole case of west v middle east that seems to be going on is grey. Like I said further up feelings of intolerance, distrust ad violent hate are there for both non-Muslims and Muslims. Unfortunately for some Muslims whoever fights in the name of Islam must be right no matter what they are doing in the process, whilst some Americans believe they are a nation of heroes who can trample where they like. And I hate this the President of America is the leader of the free world business. :skeleton:

 

[sister herb]

What kind of connection there even is with drones and polio vaccanation? "If you don´t stop kill our children by drones then we let polio kill them"?

:heated:

Senseless news.

 

[Abz2000]

What kind of connection there even is with drones and polio vaccanation?

that's exactly what the taliban are asking, though it's being skewed and mis-presented by the lamestream media.

they have noticed a relationship between the vaccination campaign and the drone murder frequencies.
and they have also clearly stated that they suspect the vaccination campaigns are being used as a cover to spy on the ground before sending in drones.
they are demanding the drone murders stop before they allow them in any more.

don't let the dajjal media fool you.

here's one where they dispersed some of the actual facts amongst a miryad of conjecture:

Leaflets distributed in South Waziristan on behalf of Mullah Nazir, the leader of the Federally Administered Tribal Agencies (Fata) accused health workers who administer anti-polio drops of being US spies.
"In the garb of these vaccination campaigns, the US and its allies are running their spying networks in Fata which has brought death and destruction on them in the form of drone strikes," the leaflet said.

Earlier this month, Hafiz Gul Bahadar, the leader of the Taliban in North Waziristan, made similar claims about polio vaccinations being used for spying and banned any further work until drone attacks end.


North and South Waziristan are where the vast bulk of US missile strikes by drone aircraft have taken place.
The leaflet raised the case of Shakil Afridi, the frontier doctor who ran a hepatitis vaccination campaign in Abbottabad as cover for a CIA effort to find intelligence about the whereabouts of Osama bin Laden.

Afridi, who has since been arrested and jailed by Pakistani authorities, provided important help in the hunt for the US's most wanted man, the former director of the CIA has said.

But humanitarian organisations have been outraged by the use of vaccination as a cover for spying, saying it has entrenched suspicions in the tribal areas about their work.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/26/taliban-bans-polio-vaccinations?newsfeed=true

i would say the taliban have a valid point on this issue, the drone strikes are murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people, while they are using the cover of saving a few dozen people from polio to commit these savage atrocities.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

They won't comment on that because they are weak and don't have the willpower to stand by what's right. Instead, they will spew conspiracies, will target me or the source...Anything but answer the question and stay on topic. Bunch of hypocrites.

Please avoid calling others hypocrites or anything of the sort.

I personally doubt the actual truth of the story, it sounds to me more like tabloid news. Hence, why there isn't much of a serious response.