Taweez (Amulets) in light of the Quran and Sunnah

[Scimitar]

...my team-mate, who is traditionalist Muslim, used taweez in form of vest. He always wore this taweez vest under his racing jersey when he raced. But he used taweez not only on his body. One day he changed his motorcycle seat cover. And I was surprised when the cover removed because I saw the seat foam was full of Arabic letter and symbols. Yeah, bro, that was a taweez in form of motorcycle seat.

Of course - by azc standard it's ok to sit on taweez because they are taweez - they disrespect the ayaat of the Qur'an and sit on them. Expel gas on them. And even wear them into the toilets.

This - is shirk culture.

Scimi

 

[azc]

The evidence is clear - it is unaninous - and needs no further explaining:Prophet :saws1: said, ‘Whoever wears an amulet has committed shirk.” and made the dua, “Whoever wears an amulet, may Allaah not fulfill his need..."You know what is really dodgy about you?You not only attempt to ignore these two ahadeeth but you attempt to abrogate them from what you believe the sahabi RA said. The hadeeth regarding the Prophet pbuh talking of amulets are VERY SOUND - yet the hadeeth attributed to sahabi were "hearsay" and not subject to the same stringent collation and authentication as the ahadeeth of the Prophet pbuh.But you're ignorance is quite impressive - so - not surprised.You're in reverse gear thinking you're going forward.Scimi

these ahadith prohibit tama'im (beads] the practice of mushrikin. Quranic Taweez is a different thing. See Arabic hadith ''tama'im'' are prohibited

 

[azc]

See thie scan of hadith you've quoted ''tama'im'' are prohibited: https://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/ahmd-28_page637.png

 

[Scimitar]

Wrong - it speaks of all amulets - it's a general statement to apply to all the items which fall under the category of "amulet" which would also include beads, and not just ayaat on paper - and nowadays - worse - ayaat sewn onto clothing:

This sickness has entered the commercial arena and is now pragmatically abused beyond repair.


Scimi

EDIT:

This is the opinion known to be held by `Abdullah ibn Mas`ud and Hudhayfah (may Allah be pleased with them), as well as a group of the Salaf and the Kalaf (righteous successors). They said that it is not permissible to tie amulets even if they are words of the Qur'an in compliance with the principle of Sadd-ul-Dhara'i` (blocking the means leading to sins) and to forestall acts of Shirk and act upon the general meaning of the Hadiths. The Hadiths that prohibit amulets are general and make no exception. Muslims should abide by the general ruling. Therefore, it is basically not permissible to use any kind of amulets so that people do not use other types of amulets, thus leading to confusing matters.

It is obligatory to prohibit all types of amulets. This is the soundest opinion for the obvious evidence supporting it.

If we permit the use of amulets made from the Qur'an and good supplications, it will open the door for people to wear any form of amulets they like. Then, if they are reproved for what they do, they will say that they are amulets consisting of the Qur'an or good supplications. Consequently, the door will be opened, the cut will widen, and all types of amulets (whether words of the Qur'an or otherwise) will be worn.

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Scimi

 

[azc]

Wrong - it speaks of all amulets - it's a general statement to apply to all the items which fall under the category of "amulet" which would also include beads, and not just ayaat on paper - and nowadays - worse - ayaat sewn onto clothing:

This sickness has entered the commercial arena and is now pragmatically abused beyond repair - keep promoting your need for taweez and this is the first cavity you will find in the rabbit hole - plenty more cavities hiding plenty more corruptions of the revealed verses for you to find there bro azc.But - you will choose your nepenthe, no matter what we show you as proof - I know your type.ScimiEDIT:

Scimi

Hz A'isha siddiqa RA was also of this opinion that tamimah and taweez both are different things. See this scan: (Sunan e Kubra Lil Behaiqi : vol 9 : pg 589) https://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/skb09_page589.png

 

[azc]

Those who transgress the shariah in any form are wrong. Like the man in image. Neither the aslaf allowed such act nor our ulama do. Taking money in lieu of selling taweez is also wrong and those make any show off or change it into a business are wrong. I strongly refute such people.

 

[Scimitar]

Hz A'isha siddiqa RA was also of this opinion that tamimah and taweez both are different things. See this scan: (Sunan e Kubra Lil Behaiqi : vol 9 : pg 589) https://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/skb09_page589.png

This is the opinion known to be held by `Abdullah ibn Mas`ud and Hudhayfah (may Allah be pleased with them), as well as a group of the Salaf and the Kalaf (righteous successors). They said that it is not permissible to tie amulets even if they are words of the Qur'an in compliance with the principle of Sadd-ul-Dhara'i` (blocking the means leading to sins) and to forestall acts of Shirk and act upon the general meaning of the Hadiths.


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Those who transgress the shariah in any form are wrong. Like the man in image. Neither the aslaf allowed such act nor our ulama do. Taking money in lieu of selling taweez is also wrong and those make any show off or change it into a business are wrong. I strongly refute such people.

Read the following:

The Hadiths that prohibit amulets are general and make no exception.

Muslims should abide by the general ruling. Therefore, it is basically not permissible to use any kind of amulets so that people do not use other types of amulets, thus leading to confusing matters.

It is obligatory to prohibit all types of amulets. This is the soundest opinion for the obvious evidence supporting it.

READ:

If we permit the use of amulets made from the Qur'an and good supplications, it will open the door for people to wear any form of amulets they like. Then, if they are reproved for what they do, they will say that they are amulets consisting of the Qur'an or good supplications. Consequently, the door will be opened, the cut will widen, and all types of amulets (whether words of the Qur'an or otherwise) will be worn.

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Scimi

 

[azc]

[MENTION=31950]Scimitar[/MENTION] : Are you really qualified to give this decision like a judge....??? Brother, you failed to prove your point. So far your discussion proves that you see the issues superficially. I advise you to study Quran and ahdith....... Prove that Hz Abdullah b Masud RA or any other sahabi RA or any other muhaddis or mufassir or faqih HAD EVER DECLARED THAT QURANIC TAWEEZ ARE HARAM...... GIVE SCAN PAGE TO PROVE YOUR CLAIM.

 

[ardianto]

[MENTION=38240]azc[/MENTION]

Bro, is okay if you wrote some Quranic aayah on paper then put it in your pocket, because this is not taweez. But taweez is different. Taweez is not just a paper with Arabic letters writen on it, but a form of amulet that filled with mantra (magic spell). That's why taweez can be made only by qualified person.

Taweez originally came from animism belief, an ancient belief that worshiping nature and unseen creature that lived on it. Animists people believe that amulet have power. So they made amulet including in form of symbols and letters that written on a media. This custom became a part of culture. Later when Islam came to people in these cultures they did not leave this custom, but modified it. They replaced the symbols and letters with Arabic letters which taken from Qur'an. They replaced mantra into Quranic aayah and dua. This is the origin of taweez.

I am not an aleem in Islamic knowledge. But I learn cultures, and that's what I found from what I have learned.

 

[azc]

IMAM SHAIBI RH (who met 500 sahaba ikram RA) ALLOWED TAWEEZ: Imam Ibn Maeen Rh. –> Ibn Abi Zayeda Rh. –> Ibn Abi Khalid Rh. –> Firaas Rh. –> Imam Shaibii Rh.......(Juz e Saani Min Hadees e Yahiya Ibn Maeen : Safa 215, Raqm no 159) see scan page:https://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/36385_page216.png

 

[azc]

[MENTION=21546]ardianto[/MENTION] : I respect your views though but how the ulama e mutaqaddimin or mutakhkhirin defined it is as I'm on. Moreover, my ulama who do I follow don't encourage people to wear even quranic taweez. Brother, as far as the hurmat and hillat of the matter being discussed is concerned the final decision isn't taken superficially, rather incorporating all the concerned dala'il are taken into consideration, furthermore, on the basis of dalail qatai hukm emanates and manifested.

 

[azc]

Hafiz ibn hajar clarified that ''taweez and blow'' the quranic ayat is simply a source of shifa in case Allah swt wills. See this scan he also allowed it(Fathul Baari : vol 10 : page 195)https://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.file...-d8a7d984d8a8d8a7d8b1d98a-10_page196-copy.png

 

[azc]

Imam Ahmad b hambal rh would write taweez and allowed it(Tibbe Nabawi : page 277)https://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.file...d8a8-d8a7d984d986d8a8d988d98a_page278.pngImam imam ahmad b hamabli rh allowed it and said that Hz Ibn Abbas RA would allow it (ibid)https://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.file...8a8-d8a7d984d986d8a8d988d98a_page278-copy.png

 

[azc]

Imam ahmad b hambal allowed it.(Tibbe Nabawi : page 276) scan page:https://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.file...8-d8a7d984d986d8a8d988d98a_page278-copy-2.png (ibid) another scanhttps://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/d8a7d984d8b7d8a8-d8a7d984d986d8a8d988d98a_page278-copy-3-copy.png Another narration of imam ahmad b hambal rh: https://ulamaehaqulamaedeoband.file...7d984d986d8a8d988d98a_page278-copy-2-copy.png

 

[azc]

@Scimitar :

The Hadiths that prohibit amulets are general and make no exception.

It's been refuted by evidences

Muslims should abide by the general ruling.

this tone displays as if you were an established jurists

Therefore, it is basically not permissible to use any kind of amulets so that people do not use other types of amulets, thus leading to confusing matters.

if it's recommended then acceptable

It is obligatory to prohibit all types of amulets. This is the soundest opinion for the obvious evidence supporting it.

perhaps you don't know that definitive evidence is needed to declare any act as obligatory, even speculative evidence doesn't work here let alone any weak narrations

If we permit the use of amulets made from the Qur'an and good supplications, it will open the door for people to wear any form of amulets they like. Then, if they are reproved for what they do, they will say that they are amulets consisting of the Qur'an or good supplications. Consequently, the door will be opened, the cut will widen, and all types of amulets (whether words of the Qur'an or otherwise) will be worn.

who is ''we''. Even scholars aren't authorised to use ''we'' in this context

you will no doubt repeat the same dribble without consideration of what I have pointed out to you

I'm not interested to enlarge this thread

namely that your way allows for shirk to manifest and you unwittingly leave the door open for it - while claiming you refute such people - you don't, you just give them more reason to use talisman and commit shirk

. Indirectly you are making allegations on aslaf.

 

[MuslimInshallah]

Assalaamu alaikum,

(smile) Perhaps the following may be of help:

Is it Permissible to Use Amulets to Deflect Evil Eye?

SEPTEMBER 22, 2014 BY SEEKERSHUB ANSWERS

Answered by Shaykh Faraz Rabbani

Question: Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

Is it permissible to use amulets (i.e. hang) to deflect evil eye?

Answer:Assalamu alaikum,

It is permitted to use ta`wizes (amulets) as a means to protect oneself, while knowing that Allah is the only one who protects or benefits.

In the Musannaf of Imam Abu Bakr ibn Abi Shayba, the permissibility of hanging a ta`wiz is reported from many of the Companions and early Muslims (Salaf), including:
Sa`id ibn al-Musayyib, `Ata’, Mujahid, Abd Allah ibn `Amr, Ibn Sirin, `Abayd Allah ibn Abd Allah ibn `Umar, and others (Allah be well pleased with them all). [Musannaf, 5.439]

As for that which is reported from some, including Ibn Mas`ud (Allah be pleased with him), that hanging ta`wizes is shikr, this is understood to mean those that resemble the one’s used in Jahiliyya, or if used thinking that it is the ta`wiz itself that cures or protects, not Allah, or if it contains impermissible invocations or one’s whose meaning is not known, as explained by Allama Abu Sa`id al-Khadimi in his al-Bariqa al-Mahmudiyya Sharh al-Tariqa al-Muhammadiyya. [4.171-172]

In the Fatawa al-Hindiyya, one of the primary references in the Hanafi school, it says:

“There is nothing wrong with hanging ta`wizes, but one should take them off before going to the toilet and before intercourse.” [5.356]

In the Mawsu`a Fiqhiyya(Awqaf, Kuwait), it states that, the linguistic meaning of ta`wiz is derived from seeking protection or refuge. The type that is prohibited is the like the one’s used in pre-Islamic times, is a major sin and can even lead to disbelief. The type that is permitted according to the vast majority (jumhur) of the scholars is that which is made from the Words of Allah (Qur’an) or His Names, with the condition that the person not think that it has any effect by itself; rather, it protects or heals by the Will and Power of Allah.

And Allah knows best.

Wassalam,

Faraz Rabbani

http://seekershub.org/ans-blog/2014/09/22/is-it-permissible-to-use-amulets-i-e-hang-to-deflect-evil-eye/

 

[aaj]

Assalaamu alaikum,

(smile) Perhaps the following may be of help:

It is not. When the Prophet :saws1: was affected by sihr, he used surah falaqn not taweez. After the revelation of Surah Falaq and Nas, those were the only means he used against sihr and hasad.

Who is faraz rabbani? Is he above ibn Baaz in scholarship?

It's been refuted by evidences

You are refuting hadtih with evidence of of bareli scholars? Seriously?

You are saying the scholars and their evidence is above the Prophet and his words. Need I remind you that the sunnah/hadith are wahi from Allah. The hadith i quoted are general to encompass all kinds of taweez, no ifs and buts. He didn't say quran taweez were allowed, he would have mentioned that. By refusing to believe this and blindly continue to defend your stance, you are calling the Prophet a liar and saying he did not fully deliver the message and fulfill the trust. That is what you are indirectly accusing him of by saying your barelvi or any other scholars you bring to "refute" this hadith. Not to mention what good are all your taweez when the Prophet :saws1: made dua to Allah that your needs never be met if you use taweez. Do you think this taweez is on par with Allah and will still get your needs met?

Either you have too much pride or too much blindness to let this go. No imam or scholar is above the Prophet :saws1:

 

[azc]

[MENTION=39296]aaj[/MENTION] : brother, if you are serious to discuss this topic further, then plz prove the authenticity of ahadith you've quoted.

 

[azc]

The Prophet :saws: said the follow regarding the taweez:It was narrated that ‘Uqbah ibn ‘Aamir said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever wears an amulet, may Allaah not fulfil his need, and whoever wears a sea-shell, may Allaah not give him peace.” (Narrated by Ahmad, 16951) It was narrated from ‘Uqbah ibn ‘Aamir al-Juhani that a group came to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) [to swear their allegiance (bay’ah) to him]. He accepted the bay’ah of nine of them but not of one of them. They said, “O Messenger of Allaah, you accepted the bay’ah of nine but not of this one.” He said, “He is wearing an amulet.” The man put his hand (in his shirt) and took it off, then he (the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)) accepted his bay’ah. He said, ‘Whoever wears an amulet has committed shirk.” (Narrated by Ahmad, 16969) They are haram in Islam. Details are available here: https://islamqa.info/en/10543------------------With that said, there are some scholars who have said that some taweez are halal and some are haram. Among them is Imam Ibn Taymiyya. In his fatwa, he said : Hanging or wearing of amulets (ta’wiz) is normally permissible for protection or healing provided certain conditions are met:1) That they consist of the names of Allah Almighty or his attributes;2) That they are in Arabic;3) That they do not consist of anything that is disbelief (kufr);4) The user does not believe the words have any affect in themselves, but are empowered to do so by Allah Most High.It is narrated from Amr ibn Shu’ayb, from his father, from his grandfather (Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al-Aas (Allah be pleased with them all), that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) used to teach them (the Sahabas) for fearful situations the following words:“I seek refuge in Allah’s perfect words from His wrath, the evil of his servants, the whispered insinuations of devils, and that they come to me”More can be read here: https://ahlussunnahwaljamah.blogspot.com/2008/01/is-taweez-amulet-allowed-in-islam.htmlHowever, I'm willing to bet that 99% of the taweez do not meet those conditions. They have some sort of shirk involved. Look up taweez videos online and shaikhs opening up these taweezs given by so called maulanas exposing the haram in them. ---------------------------------------So where does that leave us ?Shayhk Ibn Baaz sheds proper light on the matter: http://www.alifta.net/Fatawa/Fatawa...MarkIndex=0&0#ThemeaningofthefollowingHadith:

sh ibn baaz may be a good scholar though but the status of sh ibn qayyim rh and sh ibn taimiyya rh is much higher let alone Imam ahmad b hamabli rh. Now it's better to prove the authenticity of evidences.

 

[azc]

[MENTION=39296]aaj[/MENTION] :

some scholars who have said that some taweez are halal and some are haram.Among them is Imam Ibn Taymiyya. In his fatwa, he said : Hanging or wearing of amulets (ta’wiz) is normally permissible for protection or healing provided certain conditions are met

and what else is being proven here....?