Teach me the old English please

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I want to learn the old English, the one that Quran and Bible had been translated to not the modern daily one.

Do you have any links for good sites teaching that in an easy way?


Thanks in advance.
 
may be you would have to read old english novels for that :><:
you mean 'why-hast-thou-forsaken-me; kinda english?
 
Danah said:
:sl: I want to learn the old English, the one that Quran and Bible had been translated to not the modern daily one.

Do you have any links for good sites teaching that in an easy way?

Thanks in advance.
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You can try these sites:

http://www.biblegateway.com has over 50 Bible translations and in several languages and some are old translation such as the KJV

http://www.searchtruth.com has several Qu'ran translations into English, perhaps the oldest there is that by PickThal. The earliest English translation dates from 1734 by George Sale but it might be hard to get a copy now.

These sites also allow you to search for passages and keywords, If you search in Bible translations or Quran Translation in Wikipedia you will get very good information and lots of references.
 
Danah, Danah, wherefore art thou Danah? Sweet is thy username, interesting is thy sig...Beneficial are thy posts, thy aspirations they be big...? :hiding: haha epic faceplam moment reading that back.
 
^LOL

because me likes it :p and it will be easy for me to read Quran and Bible English translations :statisfie
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Won't it take longer? When I read Quran translation in old English it take ages lol.
 
aisha said:
^^try shakespeare sis :hmm:
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I will try to read some, but in general I don't wanna waste a lot of time on that. If there is a website teaches the basics I will be fine

Hugo said:
You can try these sites:

http://www.biblegateway.com has over 50 Bible translations and in several languages and some are old translation such as the KJV

http://www.searchtruth.com has several Qu'ran translations into English, perhaps the oldest there is that by PickThal. The earliest English translation dates from 1734 by George Sale but it might be hard to get a copy now.

These sites also allow you to search for passages and keywords, If you search in Bible translations or Quran Translation in Wikipedia you will get very good information and lots of references.
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thanks, but as I said to sis aisha....I only need some few basics then I can go on by myself, its gonna be okay since I already have some knowledge on it.

Hafsah said:
Danah, Danah, wherefore art thou Danah? Sweet is thy username, interesting is thy sig...Beneficial are thy posts, thy aspirations they be big...? :hiding: haha epic faceplam moment reading that back.
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lol, thanks :statisfie

Scents of Jannah said:
Won't it take longer? When I read Quran translation in old English it take ages lol.
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Most of the translations around are written in the old English, I have two copies of translations if not more of Quran by different translators and both of them are written in the old one. I only need the basics of the basics nothing much to waste my time on.....I need that time in some other things as you know :p

caller said:
maybe u should try learning arabic
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I am an Arabic speaker Alhumdulilah.
 
what you just need is an online glossary of old english thats it.....it will take you five mintues to learn a few words and know their meanings.....
 
Abdullahii said:
what you just need is an online glossary of old english thats it.....it will take you five mintues to learn a few words and know their meanings.....
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EXACTLY!!
thanks for making it short for me....do you know of any. I did a quick search but didn't find any good ones. Are you aware of any?
 
If you go much further back then Shakespearean or Elizabethan English you will run into the early languages that pre-date English such as Saxony, Celtic, Welsh and even old German. English is a fairly new language and is the combination of many languages.

As far as the Qur'an in old English do not trust them as most were fraudelent commissioned by the Pope for the purpose of destroying Islam. There were no valid English language Qur'ans until Pikthal and Ali

For fun you may want to glance at the oldest known writing in what can be called English The epic poem "Beowulf" it is in the earliest known form of English Anglo-Saxo which were the first 2 languages to combine to form what eventually becomes English

Try this site, very few people living today can read the original Anglo-Saxon

http://historymedren.about.com/od/beowulf/p/beowulf.htm
 
^ the link have some interesting things, jazakAllah khair for sharing. The first page of the Beowulf manuscript is strange in itself to me :hmm: totally different way of writing

I have the translation of Yusuf Ali, and another copy printed in King fahad holy Quran printing Complex and both of them are using the same style of English.

I will see if I can find a simple online glossary that can serve the purpose for now
 
Greetings,

Old English is another name for Anglo-Saxon. That is very different from what you're asking about.

The language of Shakespeare and the King James Bible is known as Early Modern English. Those are the best texts to read in order to get to grips with understanding it. A course on reading Early Modern English would be very likely to include lots of readings from these works.

Don't look on reading Shakespeare as a waste of time. He's commonly acknowledged to be perhaps the greatest writer the world has ever seen.

Peace
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,

Old English is another name for Anglo-Saxon. That is very different from what you're asking about.

The language of Shakespeare and the King James Bible is known as Early Modern English. Those are the best texts to read in order to get to grips with understanding it. A course on reading Early Modern English would be very likely to include lots of readings from these works.

Don't look on reading Shakespeare as a waste of time. He's commonly acknowledged to be perhaps the greatest writer the world has ever seen.

Peace
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Very good CZ.

Now I think I understand what Sister Danah is looking for. Shakespeare is a good source as in his works he probably used the majority of phrases and words in use during that era.

Here is a searchable site of nearly every word Shakespeare used with today's meaning.

http://www.shakespeareswords.com/
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,

Old English is another name for Anglo-Saxon. That is very different from what you're asking about.

The language of Shakespeare and the King James Bible is known as Early Modern English. Those are the best texts to read in order to get to grips with understanding it. A course on reading Early Modern English would be very likely to include lots of readings from these works.
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This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks for clarifying things up and thanks for making it short. So they are not the same. I always thought that KJ bible was written in the oldest English.


Don't look on reading Shakespeare as a waste of time. He's commonly acknowledged to be perhaps the greatest writer the world has ever seen.

Peace
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I didn't mean wasting time literally, but more like lengthen the period of learning when I am in a dire need of time to learn some other important things

Thanks for the link


JazakAllah khair for the link Uncle Woodrow


One more request, can anyone please recommend a short good read for Shakespeare?
I want something interesting to get the motivate for reading

:w:
 
Danah said:
This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks for clarifying things up and thanks for making it short. So they are not the same. I always thought that KJ bible was written in the oldest English.


I didn't mean wasting time literally, but more like lengthen the period of learning when I am in a dire need of time to learn some other important things

Thanks for the link


JazakAllah khair for the link Uncle Woodrow


One more request, can anyone please recommend a short good read for Shakespeare?
I want something interesting to get the motivate for reading

:w:
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Here is a link where you can download all of his work in one ebook.

http://rapidlibrary.com/index.php?q=complete+shakespeare+pdf

However, since this is what seems to be your first exposure to Shakespeare I suggest you first start with:

"Taming of the Shrew"

A fairly short comedy. Reasonably easy reading but still good exposure to the language of the time.

You can download it here:

http://www.pdf-search-engine.com/taming-of-the-shrew-pdf.html

You want the top (first) one

The rest of the links give some good commentaries and critiques of it.
 
Greetings,
Danah said:
One more request, can anyone please recommend a short good read for Shakespeare?
I want something interesting to get the motivate for reading
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Macbeth is Shakespeare's shortest play, and for the most part its language is very clear for modern readers. It's a tragedy about murder, guilt and evil, and it features ghosts, witches and daggers. It's definitely easier to follow than something like King Lear or Coriolanus, great though those plays are.

For something even shorter, why not try some of Shakespeare's Sonnets? They are a sequence of 154 love poems. Here is Sonnet 18, which is perhaps the most famous:

Shall I compare thee to a summer's day?
Thou art more lovely and more temperate:
Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,
And summer's lease hath all too short a date;
Sometime too hot the eye of heaven shines,
And often is his gold complexion dimm'd;
And every fair from fair sometime declines,
By chance or nature's changing course untrimm'd;
But thy eternal summer shall not fade,
Nor lose possession of that fair thou ow'st;
Nor shall Death brag thou wander'st in his shade,
When in eternal lines to time thou grow'st:
So long as men can breathe or eyes can see,
So long lives this, and this gives life to thee.
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Peace
 

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