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Bittersteel
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yes.
I meant that I don't support the al qaida's actions.Obviously if it was me I would resort to peaceful means.
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Genius said:
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great point
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I wouldn't Necessarily say occupation ARMY as soon as the ppl of iraq can stand up and fight a dictatorship government there wiil be no need for another army to come to iraq. and forcefully remove the government. 
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Aye, but Messrs Luther King, Ghandi and Mandella weren't/aren't anti-semitic crackpots taking advantage of a nation severely weakened by sanctions.Genius said:
Holy moley! I've just realized something! I have hay fever!
...I just realized something else! Iraq is severely weakened by sanctions!
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Genius said:
Hitler always used the threat of force (no matter how subtle)and other's fear of war to get what he wanted, especially concerning Austria and Czechoslovakia.
Residents were stunned and angry.
"The one who did this has no morality. This suicide bomber isn't an Arab or a Muslim or even a Jew. He's not human," Suheil Abd Ali said as he picked up pieces of the car bomb.
But most residents of the neighborhood blamed U.S. soldiers -- at least in part -- and said THEY WANTED THEM OFF THEIRS STREETS.
"The killer is unknown, but the motive is brought by the U.S.," Raed Abdullah, 33, said.
http://www.freep.com/news/nw/iraq14e_20050714.htm
"The one who did this has no morality. This suicide bomber isn't an Arab or a Muslim or even a Jew. He's not human," Suheil Abd Ali said as he picked up pieces of the car bomb.
But most residents of the neighborhood blamed U.S. soldiers -- at least in part -- and said THEY WANTED THEM OFF THEIRS STREETS.
"The killer is unknown, but the motive is brought by the U.S.," Raed Abdullah, 33, said.
http://www.freep.com/news/nw/iraq14e_20050714.htm
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How many factions are there in Iraq ,those who oppose the new government?
Brother Hash,
I am proud and happy for your feelings for fellow oppressed muslims of the Ummah. But please do remember that there are 1.7 billion of us Masha-Allah and each one of us is equal in the eyes of Allah (SWT) and as Muslims our first loyalty is for collective well being of the entire Ummah.
As muslims, our duty is to be examples for all human beings with not just words but our deeds. So generalizations and putting people in boxes, such as moderates or extremists is not in keeping with the humbleness we are required as Muslims and specially so, if we are talking about fellow muslims - it is tantamount to sectarianism. It is actually a tool used by the likes of Daniel Pipes to divide our ranks and sow division, if I may humbly remind.
Brother Imaad_udeen's love for his country of origin is natural, indeed our beloved prophet (SAWS) also loved Mecca and Arabia, if I am not wrong - this is not against Islam, but yes when we are faced with a situation where we have to choose, as Muslims, we must choose Islam and the Ummah as our first point of loyalty. As bearer's of the noblest of all faith Insha-Allah, we must be patient with him and humbly express our opinion. I believe he is new to our faith and he deserves our respect to have left the ways of his fore-fathers and accepting our Deen, Alhamdulillah. Many of us did not have to go through the troubles and transition that he had to go through.
About war, fighting and fighting back - our beloved prophet (SAWS) had started the genesis of an Ummah with himself only and today a quarter of humanity is within the Ummah Masha-Allah. In addition to being the last messenger from Allah (SWT), our prophet (SAWS) was also a great General and strategist. War and fighting is for winning, and one of the first strategy's of war is to know yourself and your enemy and not to start a battle if the enemy is stronger and if there is no chance of winning.
Also, if we look at human social evolution, we find today that most advanced countries are moving away from war and killing as a method of conflict resolution (since it now has diminishing returns), with the US being the only exception, this is because of a transitory few decades when the US finds itself as the lone super-power with no match in sight - but soon the US will also come in line with other nations and sanity will prevail.
Instead, most countries are now focused on turning their warfare in economic and business fields, which produces more return for the buck.
If I were a strategist for the Ummah, I would recommend all fruitless fighting to cease and instead channel our fighting energy on making us strong in other ways with education and human resource development. This way I believe we can advance the interest of the Ummah and ensure the well being of its 1.7 billion inhabitants, because that in itself is the ultimate goal of all so called fighting.
Much more than these so called fighting, a united Ummah can confront the injustice with so much more effectiveness, and do you think that these are just dreams from my insignificant little brain, isn't Unity of the Ummah one of the most important idea's promoted by our beloved prophet (SAWS) - please let me know your kind opinion on these.
My apologies, if I sound like I have lectured you, but you have seen, this is one of my habit.
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after all no army in the world is invincible.
What is the percentage of Muslims in the world now?
What is the percentage of Muslims in the world now?
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lol not quite! (brown shirts etc to get elected), anywho I get your drift that Iraq is like postwar/despression Germany of 1930 - the country is in turmoil and any old geezer who promises change the peopel will follow
AQ Denies Carrying Out Deadly Baghdad Bombing
Jul 15, 2005
By Ubaidah Al-Saif , Translation © Jihad Unspun 2005*
At least 26 children were killed and 13 injured after a bomber blew himself up near a US convoy in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad on Wednesday. The attack was quickly attributed to Al-Qaida by US officials and their Iraqi counterparts even though it was clear from the start that it was unlikely that the group would undertake a operation that was poised to produce this kind of carnage.
The Baghdad attack that took place in the Shi'ite district of Ijidida, sparking international condemnation and very quickly the fingers pointed to Abu Mesab Al-Zarqawi. As details began to unfold, it appears that US troops were enticing children with sweets when the unknown bomber detonated his payload.
To set the record straight, Al-Qaida has released the following statement, condemning the attack and denying responsibility. Here is their statement, uncut and uncensored as translated by JUS.
We remind our viewers that the opinions and points of view expressed in this statement are those of the author and shall not be deemed to mean that they are necessarily those of Jihad Unspun, the publisher, editor, writers, contributors or staff.
Al-Qaida, Announces That They Are Not Responsible In Any Way For The Carnage Of Baghdad Bombing
In The Name Of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
O Allah! Make our shots hit their intended targets and fasten our feet firmly to the ground.
Praise be to Allah, who glorified Islam with his victory, who disgraces the unbelievers, and who arranged matters by his judgment, who stalks the apostates and balances everything by his justness. Peace and prayers be upon those who raised and uphold Islam by his sword.
We, the Al-Qaida organisation in the Land of the Two Rivers are not responsible in any way for Baghdad bombing which occurred this Wednesday. Our course is known; we fight the enemies of Allah, the crusaders and the apostates. In addition, Al-Zarqawi controls and plans all operations to avoid civilian casualties and bystanders.
May Allah guides his shots to their intended target and rewards him for his deeds.
Allahu Akbar...Allahu Akbar...Allahu Akbar.
Glory to Allah, his Prophet and the Mujahideen.
Media Department
Al-Qaida in the Land of the Two Rivers
July 14th 2005
Jamad 6th, 1426
Jul 15, 2005
By Ubaidah Al-Saif , Translation © Jihad Unspun 2005*
At least 26 children were killed and 13 injured after a bomber blew himself up near a US convoy in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad on Wednesday. The attack was quickly attributed to Al-Qaida by US officials and their Iraqi counterparts even though it was clear from the start that it was unlikely that the group would undertake a operation that was poised to produce this kind of carnage.
The Baghdad attack that took place in the Shi'ite district of Ijidida, sparking international condemnation and very quickly the fingers pointed to Abu Mesab Al-Zarqawi. As details began to unfold, it appears that US troops were enticing children with sweets when the unknown bomber detonated his payload.
To set the record straight, Al-Qaida has released the following statement, condemning the attack and denying responsibility. Here is their statement, uncut and uncensored as translated by JUS.
We remind our viewers that the opinions and points of view expressed in this statement are those of the author and shall not be deemed to mean that they are necessarily those of Jihad Unspun, the publisher, editor, writers, contributors or staff.
Al-Qaida, Announces That They Are Not Responsible In Any Way For The Carnage Of Baghdad Bombing
In The Name Of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
O Allah! Make our shots hit their intended targets and fasten our feet firmly to the ground.
Praise be to Allah, who glorified Islam with his victory, who disgraces the unbelievers, and who arranged matters by his judgment, who stalks the apostates and balances everything by his justness. Peace and prayers be upon those who raised and uphold Islam by his sword.
We, the Al-Qaida organisation in the Land of the Two Rivers are not responsible in any way for Baghdad bombing which occurred this Wednesday. Our course is known; we fight the enemies of Allah, the crusaders and the apostates. In addition, Al-Zarqawi controls and plans all operations to avoid civilian casualties and bystanders.
May Allah guides his shots to their intended target and rewards him for his deeds.
Allahu Akbar...Allahu Akbar...Allahu Akbar.
Glory to Allah, his Prophet and the Mujahideen.
Media Department
Al-Qaida in the Land of the Two Rivers
July 14th 2005
Jamad 6th, 1426
minaz said:
I support all those who fight for the sake of Allah during these hard times when I see most muslims are enjoying the dunya and not thinking about how they will answer Allah on the Day of Judgement about why they didn't help fight against the enemies of Islam and instead rushed to condemn their brothers in Islam who were fight so the Word of Allah can be the highest.
If you see anything wrong with that then may Allah guide you.