thamud- location?

[Malaikah]

Does anyone know anything about the authenticity of the claims that the city of Petra in Jordan is the location of the people of 'Ad and Thamud?

This is what part of it looks like:

 

[Gaf_G]

"i dunno he didnt said" thats just somethin i remembered from some audio clip i heard once long ago

 

[Malaikah]

huh??

 

[lolwatever]

salam

The people of Thamud were Arabs who lived a couple of hundred years after the Prophet Noah PBUH in a place called Hijr which today is known as Madaain Salih in the North of Arabia near Tabuk. Blessed in provisions and livelihoods their land was fertile with green gardens and running springs and they skilfully carved spacious houses out of mountains. They were ungrateful to Allah as they worshiped the stone idols they carved with their very own hands
http://www.inter-islam.org/faith/Majorsigns.html

Jordan isn't in north arabia is it? more like north west?

salams

ps: they are MASSIVE structures man i never seen that.. thnx 4 the pic..

 

[Malaikah]

The two sites are related though:

Madain Salih is the modern name of ancient Hegra, one of the most important Nabataean sites after the capital, Petra.

Source

I cant seem to find anything convincing though.. like how are the two sites related?

Yes they are massive, and if that is truly the real site (which it most likely is), its not something to hold in awe, its a horrible reminder of the arrogance of these people which lead to their terrible fate...

 

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


But what about this pic? Theres a location called Thamud within yemen? near the top right.

 

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex

On their way to Tabuk, the army of Islam passed by Al-Hijr — which was the native land of Thamud who cut out (huge) rocks in the valley; that is “Al-Qura Valley” of today. They watered from its well but later the Messenger of Allâh (peace be upon him) told them not to drink of that water, nor perform the ablution with it. The dough they made, he asked them to feed their camels with. He forbade them to eat anything whatsoever of it. As an alternative he told them to water from that well which Prophet Salih’s she-camel used to water from.

On the authority of Ibn ‘Umar: “Upon passing by Al-Hijr the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:

“Do not enter the houses of those who erred themselves lest what had happened to them would afflict you, but if you had to do such a thing let it be associated with weeping.”

Then he raised his head up and accelerated his strides till he passed the valley out.”

Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) is saying that if you want to visit the nations of the previous people that Allaah Almighty destroyed (for example: pharoah's pyramids etc.), then you should only go there and cry. Otherwise, you should watch out because Allaah Almighty could destroy you, like Allaah destroyed the nations before.


But it is a form of worship to visit them places to reflect upon it and to see Allaah's signs.

So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth). [Sura16 An-Nahl, Ayat 36]​

See they not how many of those before them We did destroy?- generations We had established on the earth, in strength such as We have not given to you - for whom We poured out rain from the skies in abundance, and gave (fertile) streams flowing beneath their (feet): yet for their sins We destroyed them, and raised in their wake fresh generations (to succeed them). (Qur'an 06:06)​

Harun Yahya - Thamud
http://www.harunyahya.com/pernat15.php


Lost Cities and Perished Nations (Part 3)
http://magic-city-news.com/article_3108.shtml



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[lolwatever]

it definately can't be the location on the map though! wasn't it all the way up near tabuk, which was in the opposite direction??:X

not important to me.. but i'd b surprised if das where thamud's place was

 

[Malaikah]

Ok, now im confused. :?

I agree with lolwatever, tabuk is in the north isnt it? not in yemen..

“Do not enter the houses of those who erred themselves lest what had happened to them would afflict you, but if you had to do such a thing let it be associated with weeping.”

The sad thing is that the area is like some kind of tourist attraction now.

 

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


Yeah, this is a map of the arabian peninsula and more at the time of the Messenger of Allaah (sal Allaahu alayhi waSalam) [i think] so tabuk is more up north..

And i heard in a Muhammad al Shareef lecture that the people of Thamud were within ash-Sham, like near Jordan somwhere. Allaah Almighty knows best.

He was also saying that there are some people who claim to be descendants of them, but subhan Allaah - they carved castles from mountains - like shown in the pic on the first post.

"And remember how He made you inheritors after the 'Ad people and gave you habitations in the land: ye build for yourselves palaces and castles in (open) plains, and care out homes in the mountains; so bring to remembrance the benefits (ye have received) from Allah, and refrain from evil and mischief on the earth." (7:74)​

:wasalamex

 

[lolwatever]

phew! lol, jazaks 4 the explanation bro :statisfie

 

[Malaikah]

He was also saying that there are some people who claim to be descendants of them, but subhan Allaah - they carved castles from mountains - like shown in the pic on the first post.

Yes, i believe that is why its seems so likely that it was the location of Thamud. However is seems also that the Romans inhabited the area for some time, so im not sure whether all the structures were built by the cursed nations 'Ad and Thamud or the Romans...

 

[lolwatever]

^^ salamz, but Roman's had their identifiable style of architecture and stuff which definately wasn't carving homes into rocks, Allahu a'3lam im pretty sure of that though.
ws wr wb

 

[Malaikah]

Exaclty, im not much of an expert on Roman arcitecture but this looks roman to me:

 

[lolwatever]

lol they look like they're from carthage empire.. in tunisia

anyway i think the style looks diff to wats right up the top.

Allahu a'3lam tho. not important, point is, we know the location now if i ever hav to walk from the north to madinah, i'll take the coast to be sure i'm avoiding it lol

 

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


It takes about 6hrs to get to tabuk from madinah by car.. imagine how long it would take the sahabah and the Messenger of Allaah (sal Allaahu alayhi waSalam) to get there with the objective of fighting the romans, in the extreme heat of the summer.


The Battle of Tabuk:
http://www.anwary-islam.com/battle/ghazwah_tabuk.html


It's really interestin masha'Allaah and emotional..


:wasalamex

 

[lolwatever]

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[amirah_87]

ass salaamu alaykum

i'm gonna have to agree with Bro fi sabilillah, that the location of thamud and 3aad are in yemen(well that's what they say anyways)
.....as for the location of 3aad...i've seen it it's in the northwest of yemen but i ain't seen the location of thamuud!!:-\

And Allah subhaanu wa ta3aalaa knows best!eace:

 

[Malaikah]

^wasnt the city of 'Ad totally destroyed though?

 

[lolwatever]

salamz
i think ur referring to Lot that was flipped upside down which is now replaced by dead-sea... 'Ad copped a similar punishment, read surat al-Fajr for details.

salamz