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Im sorry but i will not believe that My creator died as a MAN on the cross for MY SINS. And that he has a Son. Im sorry but for that to say God has died for The sins of Man? Think about what your saying.

As a Muslim i believe Jesus as the savior and one of the greatest Messangers of God. And you still deny the truth of Islam even though we believe he was the messiah? And respect him? And that he was born to a virgin named mary?
 
God is just correct?

why would GOD kill a GOOD, HONEST, PROPHET for the sake of bad people??

He would punish the bad, In ISLAM the bad are ones who get punished, not the good that woukld make more sense!!

that makes no sense, thats a scapegoat for people to disobey and do whatever they want.........
 
Old Testament

There exists today a number of different versions in the ancient Hebrew language of the Jewish Book called the Torah [Law] and this is usually referred to in Christianity as The Old Testament. Naturally, there have been many different translations to a great number of languages over the centuries and one could not expect them to be identical in text or meaning. What we have in English today still remains somewhat similar to large amounts of these older documents.

New Testament

There are also different versions of the Gospel or what is commonly called The New Testament in the Koine Greek language and Latin and these also have many translations to even other langugaes. Even amongst the English translations there are great differences. To mention two very clear differences for example; the Catholic Bible [c. 325 A.D] contains 73 books in total, while the Protestant Bible contains only 66 books, and although the newer (Protestant version) was taken from the Catholic Bible even then these books do not match completely with each other. There is no common denominator for any of the many different versions of the Bible.
 
abdul Majid said:
God is just correct?

why would GOD kill a GOOD, HONEST, PROPHET for the sake of bad people??

He would punish the bad, In ISLAM the bad are ones who get punished, not the good that woukld make more sense!!

that makes no sense, thats a scapegoat for people to disobey and do whatever they want.........
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so are you good? and for what ever reasons you still think we Christians are free to do what ever we want? why?

the music I hear on secular radio makes me sick... hmmm... I can't believe rappers state they are christians but yet they have all that provanity in it... I can't believe how a pasture can be a preacher but yet have an affair with someone?
what is going on? is it God or is it the people or is it satans fault?

I am not sure..

but according to the Bible Jesus died for all sin-- all people have fallen short to the glory of the Lord our God there is noone righteous no not even one.. agian not all who profess to be Christians are really Christians. like in one of the verses the enemy is like a wolf in sheeps clothing..

out of Gods love and mercy for me and you He came to earth shed His blood for us so that we might be seen righteous in His eyes for those who acknowledges Him. because those who know Him and are in Him will be Judged by Him a different law.. Christ is the Law--
 
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PrIM3 said:
so are you good? and for what ever reasons you still think we Christians are free to do what ever we want? why?

the music I hear on secular radio makes me sick... hmmm... I can't believe rappers state they are christians but yet they have all that provanity in it... I can't believe how a pasture can be a preacher but yet have an affair with someone?
what is going on? is it God or is it the people or is it satans fault?

I am not sure..

but according to the Bible Jesus died for all sin-- all people have fallen short to the glory of the Lord our God there is noone righteous no not even one.. agian not all who profess to be Christians are really Christians. like in one of the verses the enemy is like a wolf in sheeps clothing..

out of Gods love and mercy for me and you He came to earth shed His blood for us so that we might be seen righteous in His eyes for those who acknowledges Him. because those who know Him and are in Him will be Judged by Him a different law.. Christ is the Law--
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Exactly, Right on bro or sister!!!!Praise to God for the truth you have shared and confessed openly to men. Now our Lord will confess you openly...:thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou:
 
PrIM3 said:
so are you good? and for what ever reasons you still think we Christians are free to do what ever we want? why?


but according to the Bible Jesus died for all sin-- all people have fallen short to the glory of the Lord our God there is noone righteous no not even one.. agian not all who profess to be Christians are really Christians. like in one of the verses the enemy is like a wolf in sheeps clothing..

out of Gods love and mercy for me and you He came to earth shed His blood for us so that we might be seen righteous in His eyes for those who acknowledges Him. because those who know Him and are in Him will be Judged by Him a different law.. Christ is the Law--
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IM I GOOD?? WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOW THIS IS NONSENSE
STICK TO THE TOPIC

GOD IS JUST.....WHY WOULD HE HAVE HIS PROPHET WHO SPREAD A MESSAGE OF PEACE AND SO FORTH.....KILLLLED FOR A BUNCH OF SINNERS???

THAT MAKES NO SENSE
 
PrIM3 said:
so are you good? and for what ever reasons you still think we Christians are free to do what ever we want? why?

the music I hear on secular radio makes me sick... hmmm... I can't believe rappers state they are christians but yet they have all that provanity in it... I can't believe how a pasture can be a preacher but yet have an affair with someone?
what is going on? is it God or is it the people or is it satans fault?

I am not sure..

but according to the Bible Jesus died for all sin-- all people have fallen short to the glory of the Lord our God there is noone righteous no not even one.. agian not all who profess to be Christians are really Christians. like in one of the verses the enemy is like a wolf in sheeps clothing..

out of Gods love and mercy for me and you He came to earth shed His blood for us so that we might be seen righteous in His eyes for those who acknowledges Him. because those who know Him and are in Him will be Judged by Him a different law.. Christ is the Law--
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i've heard christians talk about things that make no sense but this one by far has to be the most ridiculous pieces of nonsense i have heard since last week.

so you are saying that someone died for our sin?...hmm...thats a nice excuse you have there to follow your lust and the whispers of satan.
no one but your own self is responsible for your actions.
please dont ridicule the authority of God and make fun of Him by saying that He, God forbid killed His so called son for the sake of the 'evil and ungreatful people' specially of present time.
The basic gist of the whole concept of Abrahamic faith is to proclaim and celebrate the Onness of God and not to associate anybody with Him. doesnt matter who that person is. no one is the son or daughter or mother or father of the Almighty. There you go...unless you believe in the Onness of Allah..there is no salvation. Its amazing how even the Bible in many places states the same thing, words spoken out from the mouth of Jesus(pbuh) himself about the submitting your will to the true Creator.
 
sevenxtrust said:
I don't deny truth!!! If you want to believe there is, then go ahead. But the end will be bad..
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If this is true, then why haven't you answered my request? Show me the bible verse you quote in the original hebrew/aramaic text, so that we know for sure that that is what it really says!
 
if people dont like the bible so what. i think its pointless to defend the bible. it stands on its own legs. that s. arabia bans the bible shows the power of the bible
 
well bro then again most christians don't like the koran cause see i've reverted then again you may say i don't like the koran but thats what you believe so its right cause at the end of the day i know what you mean by people defending the bible!
 
Salam Alaykum to my Muslim brethren,

The Bible being banned in Saudi Arabia does not show the "power of the Bible" because Saudi Arabia bans other religious books from Hinduism, Buddhism, and so on. It does not mean those religions and their books are "powerful" and "correct" by any means, but this is the judgement taken by the Saudi Government.
 
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In the Name of Allah, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.

All the praises and thanks be to Allah, the Lord of the Alameen (mankind, jinns and all that exists).
The Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
The Only Owner (and the Only Ruling Judge) of the Day of Recompense (i.e. the Day of Resurrection)
You (Alone) we worship, and You (Alone) we ask for help (for each and everything).
Guide us to the Straight Way
The Way of those on whom You have bestowed Your Grace , not (the way) of those who earned Your Anger (such as the Jews), nor of those who went astray (such as the Christians).

This reply is a bit late, i am not sure if anyone has noticed, but the first post of this thread sevenxtrust misqouted the Quran, i'm not sure if it was intentional.

he said
Finally, in Sura Ankabut 29:46 Muslims are asked not to question the authority of the scriptures of the Christians, saying, "And dispute ye not with the people of the book but say: We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and that which came down to you."
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but this is the actual translation of this verse by Mohsin khan

And argue not with the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), unless it be in (a way) that is better (with good words and in good manner, inviting them to Islamic Monotheism with His Verses), except with such of them as do wrong, and say (to them): "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our Ilah (God) and your Ilah (God) is One (i.e. Allah), and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims)."

have you noticed he has skipped a huge chunk of this verse, a very important one, a typical missionary deceptive tactic, shame on you.

And a quick comment, is the bible compiled of 73 books (Catholic Bible) or 66 books (Protestant Bible)? And what about the 18 missing books! What happen to them?

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sevenxtrust, can u please other times post the article in small pieces, so we can discuss them one by one, and not just a 500 lines article, when nobody is able to answer it in one time.

please put the first short part of the article so we can talk about it :)

Selam
 
sevenxtrust said:
The Bible is not simply one book compiled by one man as the Muslims claim for their Qur'an, but a compilation of 66 books, written by more than 40 authors, over a period of 1500 years! For that reason Christians have always maintained that the entire Bible shows the imprint of human hands. Evidence of this can be found in the variety of human languages used, the varying styles of writing, the differences in the author's intellects and temperaments, as well as the apparent allusions to the author's contemporary concepts of scientific knowledge, without which the scriptures would not have been understood by the people of that time. That does not mean, however, that the Bible is not authoritative, for each of the writers received their revelation by means of inspiration.
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WOOOOOAAHHH! one long post got to cut it down.

Let's see,

1st point is that different christian domination have different number of book's in their bible! Thus a different bible bible depending who you go to.
I suppose the Holy spirit while lead them to ALL TRUTH forgot to give them the correct bible!
 
Skillganon, bro I think he jost posted the article and acutally doesn't know what he is talking about

well, I am trying to response something my eyes could catch :P

But it is wrong for Muslims to assume that the Bible can be measured using the same criteria as that imposed on the Qur'an
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what you are actually saying is that two books from the same God are not the same. God does not change his words, He is very far from being labil, Glory to Him, people are the ones who are labil, bc they altered his words.

The Bible is not simply one book compiled by one man as the Muslims claim for their Qur'an, but a compilation of 66 books, written by more than 40 authors, over a period of 1500 years!
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you are comparing the words written by a man in form of explanation, and words that come directly from God throught the angel to the prophet??? u're making equal a prophet with an ordinary person?? a prophet cannot be influenced by somebody else, bc he knows for real that it is God, so he does not accept any influence by people, but just an ordinary person, who can guarantee me that, that person is not being influenced by somebody else?

Evidence of this can be found in the variety of human languages used, the varying styles of writing, the differences in the author's intellects and temperaments, as well as the apparent allusions to the author's contemporary concepts of scientific knowledge, without which the scriptures would not have been understood by the people of that time.
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for ex. the English language is a little kid comparing to Hebrew or Arabic language, and that statement does not show any evidence at all.

So many 'discrepancies' have also been cleared up due to greater research and understanding. Had Shabbir been around a century or even 25 years ago his list could easily have been 1001 contradictions. As new data is uncovered, we are continually finding answers to many of the historical mysteries. Therefore we have every reason to believe that, in God's time, the rest will be solved as well.
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this does not make sense at all, because the word of God is the word of God, the rules that are in there have nothing to do with the time, they have to be fresh no matter if u are in 2nd century or 25th century,the only thing that has to do with time are science signs, which are held till the technology is developed in higher levels to show that it is the word of God, and Bible in this case fails at almost all the cases about the acuracy of science signs. I've seen some contradictions in Bible, that is impossible to answer them, even if u try to twist the words.

Even if we were to disregard the historical problems for early Qur'ans, a further problem concerns the numerous Muslim traditions which speak of the many differing copies of Qur'anic codices which were prevalent during the collating of the Uthmanic recension of the Qur'an in the mid-seventh century, and that the conflicting copies were all destroyed, so that we cannot know today whether the Qur'an in our possession was even similar to that which was first revealed.
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i dont know who wrote this but he has no basic knoeledge about Islam, and when u write something against somebody u must know the basic things of the opposite. one of the things that played a very big role in Qur'an's preservation is the memorization...thousands/millions of people memorized and still continue memorizing the Qur'an.

Whereas the Qur'an is alleged to be free of any human element, God in the Bible deliberately chose to reveal His Word through individuals who were inspired prophets and apostles, so that His Word would not only be conveyed to humanity correctly, and comprehensively but would be communicated to their understanding and powers of comprehension as well. This the Qur'an cannot do if it has no human element, as is generally alleged.
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Jesus pbuh said himself in Bible that there would be another man from another sheep that will come to you....now tell me how come did all these prophet came? why didn't Jesus pbuh said that they will come many ? And we all know that Mohammed pbuh was arab which other words an arab is a different sheep than a jew :D

i will stop here :) cuz i'm tired :P hihi

Selam
 
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"Bible is not simply one book compiled by one man as the Muslims claim for their Qur'an, but a compilation of 66 books"

actually some bibles have 76... zand the catholic church at one point took out the revelations.... explain this... if you havent already... but if you have please do copy and paste the answer
 
Can you Christians explain to me why you believe in three gods and claim that these three gods exist in one being? I hope you know this contradicts the first of the two 10 commandments... thou shall take no other gods before me and to not take any graven imge of god.... in all due respect there are so many contradictions in the bible and the trinity is the only one i am concerned about!
 
samobosna96 said:
Can you Christians explain to me why you believe in three gods and claim that these three gods exist in one being? I hope you know this contradicts the first of the two 10 commandments... thou shall take no other gods before me and to not take any graven imge of god.... in all due respect there are so many contradictions in the bible and the trinity is the only one i am concerned about!
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first off no-- you really don't know what the 10 commandments are.. second we believe that God is a TRIUNITY.. though it is hard to explain how 3 can exist in 1 because we arn't God.. if we knew all about God then he wouldn't be God... all we know is what He gave/showed us... I think your concerned about it because you don't get it and well all I can ask according to Job 11:7--- "Can you fathom the mysteries of God?"
"God performs wonders that cannot be fathomed"--- Job 5:9

but the way I understand the Triunity is by the Holy Spirit(God) which helps me understand Him.
 
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