The arrival of the mahdi

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Bump.......the mahdi will apear within 1-2-several years.....
 
Allhuallam
It is also said that the sufyani will emerge from Turkey, not syria, if im not mistaken....it said in the wordpress that the mahdi will make a pact with the Rum (Turkey), the Sufyani will betray them, and then they will fight (intellectually, and possibly physically)......or it could be that the sufyani is aided by Turkey.....but the hadeeth on end times by Rasulullah (PBUH) says, "....the Romans will make a pact with you....they will betray you...." it sounds to me like Erdogan or Assad is the sufyani, because other narrations indicate the sufyani will emerge from the al kalb tribe, which assad is from, and we all know his dirty, evil, vile tactics.
 
Dont confuse the historical land. Anatolia was called Rum bc it was a roman/greek land back then. Now Turks are living here for the last over 900 years so its not Rum anymore.
 
The roman system, including senate etc has been transferred to and manifested in the united states of america, although much of europe never did shake off the roman occupation but slightly morphed in a hybrid fashion, they retained the status of occupied territories which were then overrun by freemasonic secularism after the renaissance. If turkey joins the e.u and shapes it's laws according to kufr then it is also a part of the e.u, anyway, it's a member of NATO, which is the military arm of the roman confederacy........ some things to keep in mind when evaluating.

Mahd comes before Kahl, if he was a leader (imam) from al mahd (cradle), it could only be a sign of God's power, but Allah doesn't tell us to reject His good pleasure whilst worshipping ad-dajjal (annuit coeptis-your Lord is not one eyed-wa laa yakhaafoona lawma talaa-im) then obviously Kahl follows.

I saw what they saw not, so I took some dust from the footprint of the messenger and threw it into the calf....
The calf seemed to low, so they said : this this is your lord and the lord of Moses, though Moses has forgotten
Harun had already told them
Yaa qawmee innamaa futintum bih, wa rabbakum al rahmaana.......
Could they not see that it could not return to them a word......
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Ever tried putting a magnet near a compass?
Which way's north???
Allahu akbar, wa al hayy al qayyuum.
 
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Dont confuse the historical land. Anatolia was called Rum bc it was a roman/greek land back then. Now Turks are living here for the last over 900 years so its not Rum anymore.
But why would Greece be the Sufyani? They're not causing trouble.
 
Refer to #8. America is the modern Roman Empire and europe is the representative of the anciente greek civilisation. So many people believe Rum in the end time ahadith refers to the christian west as a whole not greeks alone.
 
Refer to #8. America is the modern Roman Empire and europe is the representative of the anciente greek civilisation. So many people believe Rum in the end time ahadith refers to the christian west as a whole not greeks alone.
im guessing youre referring to the NATO alliance....if not you, then others.....what is so bad about NATO? yes, they do a lot of collateral damage and kill innocent people but it's by accident in the process of trying to kill terrorists, and so NATO requires military REFORM, not dissolution!
 
I am not making a positive or negative approach. Thats another subject. I am just saying Rum refered to the greek back then but it refers to the entire west but it doesnt refers to Turkey or Turks. The Prophet Aleyhisselam called us directly as Turks in the ahadith.
 
I am not making a positive or negative approach. Thats another subject. I am just saying Rum refered to the greek back then but it refers to the entire west but it doesnt refers to Turkey or Turks. The Prophet Aleyhisselam called us directly as Turks in the ahadith.
ok, i see.
 
It is also said that the sufyani will emerge from Turkey, not syria, if im not mistaken....it said in the wordpress that the mahdi will make a pact with the Rum (Turkey), the Sufyani will betray them, and then they will fight (intellectually, and possibly physically)......or it could be that the sufyani is aided by Turkey.....but the hadeeth on end times by Rasulullah (PBUH) says, "....the Romans will make a pact with you....they will betray you...." it sounds to me like Erdogan or Assad is the sufyani, because other narrations indicate the sufyani will emerge from the al kalb tribe, which assad is from, and we all know his dirty, evil, vile tactics.

Using this kind of prophecy to justify your own political preferences might leads you to wrong conclusions. Erdogan´s supporters might see the whole situation differently and say it´s Gulen and gulenists whose are from the dark side (sufyani) and Erdogan, who represents pure Islamic light. How any could know which opinion is right or are both wrong or should we leave the current day policy behind when talk about such matters? When Mahdi returns, Erdogan and Gulen could to be the ancient history at that time.
 
All i KNOW for sure, is that dajjal as well as Mahdi ..will be VERY VERY BIG fitna's. More is not needed to be said.
 
Using this kind of prophecy to justify your own political preferences might leads you to wrong conclusions. Erdogan´s supporters might see the whole situation differently and say it´s Gulen and gulenists whose are from the dark side (sufyani) and Erdogan, who represents pure Islamic light. How any could know which opinion is right or are both wrong or should we leave the current day policy behind when talk about such matters? When Mahdi returns, Erdogan and Gulen could to be the ancient history at that time.
Turkey is arming boko haram: http://www.africanews.com/2017/05/2...ner-loaded-with-440-arms-ammunition-in-lagos/
and also, according to leaked tapes of Turkish intelligence, they said, "we don't know if these weapons will kill Christians or Muslims...they're headed for NIGERIA" in 2014. Erdogan was also funding al qaeda, and openly said, "why do you call al-nusra (al qaeda) terrorists?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_National_Intelligence_Organisation_scandal_in_Turkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PK4J4956eco

Erdogan jailed tens of thousands of professors, teachers, police officers, journalists, etc. https://turkeypurge.com/
and his men threatened to rape the inmates' wives if they dont confess to being "gulenist terrorists coup plotters"
The main "ringleader" of the july 15 coup, was forced to confess under torture, and his pictures can be seen online....too bloody and graphic for this site....they are after his "interrogation" he was forced to confess he was "ordered by fethullah gulen" he later testified that in court....https://www.turkishminute.com/2017/...tting-says-his-testimony-taken-under-torture/
coup could have been staged...
https://www.aei.org/publication/turkish-officers-speak-erdogan-may-have-staged-coup/
http://www.aei.org/publication/more-evidence-erdogan-behind-coup/

British, german, eu, nato, and american intelligence went into turkety and confirmed NOTHING.
Turkey bribed Michael Flynn (former national security adviser under Donald trump) to call for extradition of gulen and kidnap hima nd send him to turkey. he was paid 500,000 dollars....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...urkish-client-during-trump-campaign/98917184/

erdogan was bribed into allow sending money to iran during the 2013 corruption scandal, DURING THE SYRIAN CIVIL WAR......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_corruption_scandal_in_Turkey

Erdogan accused of war crimes in turkey's southeast..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdish–Turkish_conflict_(2015–present)

Erdogan makes peace with israel and russia

Erdogan offers 30 billion dollar trade deal with iran

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...ifference-between-speaking-ankara-tehran.html

gulen? erdogan? al baghdadi? assad? NATO????? you tell me.....
 
Brother Mustafa;

You didn´t understand the meaning of my post. Surely supporters of Erdogan (or who ever) can explain all those accusations for good (or claim they are misunderstandings or propaganda) as well they can find thousands of wrongdoings from the opponents of Erdogan but this wasn´t about pro or against Erdogan (I know you would like to write about this matter a lot). It was an example. What I meant was that every matter has two sides (or sometimes more). When we are looking for possible counterforce of Mahdi, we should to be carefull or our own personal opinions and preferences may affect to the results. Then we may be quite far from the truth. I would like to say that we should leave this matter to Him who surely knows who is who and who isn´t. As our understanding is limited, we could spend our time to arguing who is Mahdi too. (And this spreads more fitnah.)

If we aren´t carefull, this thread will soon be one more pro/against Erdogan mess and it wasn´t the meaning - right?
 
We knos for one thing that Turkey will not be under the control of Muslims in endtimes.Since Muslims will conquer it.
If it had been Muslim,there would not have beem any need to invade it.
 
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