The Babar Ahmad 100,000 Appeal

[Huzzy_786]

Final, Its over! 140,186 Mashallah this is a huge number.

 

[Abz2000]

can we arrange a large protest in london?
i don't mind printing leaflets at home or going to mosques to request a mention.
i'm sure we could take the initiative and arrange a date rather than wait and hop someone else will???????
btw - he isn't guilty of a crime so i believe we should all be demanding that he be released rather than put on a manipulated trial.

 

[peace_maker]

It's still rising, 140, 237. They haven't closed it yet? ^o)

 

[Huzzy_786]

It's still rising, 140, 237. They haven't closed it yet? ^o)

I do hope its not a bug or something similar, or else they'll start the petition all over again -.-

 

[Insaanah]

See this: http://freebabarahmad.com/the-story...-your-mp-to-demand-full-debate-on-babar-ahmad

Main points:

In spite of the enormous public support for the matter, the Parliamentary Backbench Business Committee has now refused to list this issue for a full debate in the main chamber of the House of Commons where it could be voted on by Members of Parliament; instead the motion has been relegated to form part of a pre-existing discussion on extradition, led by Dominic Raab MP, in Westminster Hall on 24th November 2011.

Discussions in Westminster Hall are not subjected to a vote and rarely have any practical effect. Other e-petitions which secured 100,000 signatures (including Hillsborough and the EU) have been subjected to a full debate in the House of Commons with a vote rather than being sidelined as a Westminster Hall discussion. It is therefore only fair that the petition to put Babar Ahmad on trial in the UK, which over 140,000 people have signed, also be fully debated and voted on.

Listing Babar’s case for discussion in Westminster Hall is a convenient way for Parliament to wash their hands of the matter by not subjecting the issue for a vote. The two reasons that have been given for refusing to have Babar’s petition debated in the main Chamber is that it lacks public support and that there is not enough time left in this year’s calendar for such a debate.

On 1 November 2011, Mr. Dominic Raab MP, requested a full Commons debate on extradition. His motion had cross-party support in addition to the backing of the respective chairs of the Joint Committee on Human Rights and the Home Affairs Select Committee. Mr. Raab referred to the fact that at that point, over 70,000 people had also signed the petition to put Babar Ahmad on trial in the UK. The Committee rejected Mr. Raab’s request in favour of a request for a debate on cheaper fuel on the basis that over 100,000 people had signed an e-petition calling for it.

The same night, Babar’s petition secured over 100,000 votes and has since risen to over 140,000. The petition for cheaper fuel by way of comparison currently stands at 110,000. Nevertheless, that petition [cheaper fuel] will be debated in the main Chamber on 18 November.

The Westminster Hall debate was going ahead on the 24th with or without Babar’s petition and to simply tag it onto that discussion is an insult to the 140,000 plus people who signed this petition. On the same day that the Committee made this decision, it decided that an e-petition to reduce immigration which has secured 115,000 signatures (25,000 less than Babar’s petition) would be debated in the main Chamber in the New Year. If time is an issue, then surely the debate on Babar’s petition can also wait until the New Year.

UK citizens now need to write to/phone their MPs and the the Parliamentary Backbench Business Committee, full instructions and template letters in the link above.

 

[Ali_008]

I pray Eesa (AlayhiSalaam) arrives soon and kills each and everyone of these unjust *******s.

 

[Muslim Woman]

As Long As YOU Are Not Angry With me, Then I Do Not Care ::.. [Written by a British political prisoner, brother Babar Ahmad]

As long as YOU are not angry with me then I do not care...

For me is the model of Musab bin Umayr
The best dressed man in the city
But that was for him a state of pity
Until there came to him the Message
All did he leave of his privilege
For the sake of Allah and His Beloved

As long as YOU are not angry with me then I do not care...

For I think of Bilal when his chest was bare
On the burning sand did they make him lie
Until he thought he was going to die
They crushed him with rocks in the blazing sun
And begged him to reject the Almighty One
But never did he give in to the wicked

As long as YOU are not angry with me then I do not care...

I remember Khabbaab when they pulled his hair
In the blacksmiths of his evil mistress
With burning rods did she cause him distress
She twisted his neck and burnt his skin
Until his fat dripped into a tin
But he remained firm to his belief as long as he lived

As long as YOU are not angry with me then I do not care...

For I picture Khubaib when he was there
Tied and bound to an immovable tree
With no chance of him being free
Their spears and arrows did they fling
Yet grapes to him did his Lord bring
Until his noble soul was lifted

As long as YOU are not angry with me then I do not care...

I think of Yasir, Sumaiyah and their heir
Even when placed on sizzling ember
None but their Lord did they remember
Patience you all when paying this price
Indeed your abode is Paradise

"O LORD! Forgive my people for they do not know,"
And even thought I am feeling so low...

As long as YOU are not angry with me, then I do not care....

***

To know more about the writer (brother Babar Ahmad), please read here, and do action to free him !!!


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[Huzzy_786]

Heard touching..What was the original language of this poem?

 

[Salahudeen]

I emailed one of the Parliamentary Backbench Business Committee and he replied with this :hmm:

Thank you for your email.

As you state, Parliamentary time is limited and this debate gives any MP the opportunity to raise this case if they so wish and for the Minister to respond and so I would have thought you would be thanking us for agreeing to this debate not criticising us.

Best wishes

 

[جوري]

thought you would be thanking us for agreeing to this debate not criticising us.

What the? I'd write back with I put you in office & I'll see to it as we've raised 140K signatures that we take you out of it.. It is a sad state of being to relegate our affairs to these kaffirs.. Inna lillah wa'inna ilyhi raji3oon, we'll just hand another one of our own to the wolves for slaughter.. Where's the army of ibn ilwaleed? This is appalling!

 

[Muslim Woman]

Heard touching..What was the original language of this poem?

not sure . Got the peom in a mail .

 

[Snowflake]

I'm as much aggrieved as anyone by the situation of Babar Ahmed and others like him. We have been exerting our efforts to meet the petition demand and al hamdulillah we more than succeeded. But I cannot agree to pandering to the kuffar's whims and desires anymore and begging them for justice. We have to remember that everything happens with the will of Allah, and if Allah had willed then the petition would have sufficed.

We don't know why Allah put Babar Ahmed to this test. But we can pray for him and refuse to beg the kuffar for justice. We aren't weak and pathetic and I dislike them thinking we are. Muslims do not beg anyone except Allah. It's time to stop begging and start praying. Apart from physically freeing Babar Ahmed from jail, that is the best thing we can do for him. And ourselves.

 

[Insaanah]

PRESS RELEASE : One Hundred Leading Lawyers Call for Parliament to Debate Babar Ahmad E-Petition

21 November 2011

One hundred leading barristers and solicitors have signed an open letter to the Leader of the House of Commons, Sir George Young, requesting a full parliamentary debate on the issue of putting Babar Ahmad on trial in the UK.

The lawyers, who include Michael Mansfield QC (Tooks Chambers), James Wood QC (Doughty Street Chambers), Kirsty Brimelow QC (Doughty Street Chambers) and Karen Todner, solicitor for Gary McKinnon, stated:

“It is concerning when Parliament dismisses the concerns of over 140,000 people who have called for this debate. Far from being "an important way of empowering people", such a conclusion will only further alienate a public whose goodwill is being taken for granted. The petition to put Babar Ahmad on trial in the UK must be debated in the main Chamber of the Commons, whether the government like it or not. It is not just the liberty of Babar Ahmad at stake but the sovereignty of our criminal justice system.”

Ashfaq Ahmad, father of Babar Ahmad, today reiterated his call for his son to be tried in the UK.

“Now that 100 of the UK’s most brilliant legal minds have added their voices to the call for the Government to respect the wishes of almost 141,000 people, I believe that there is no other option but to allow MPs to properly debate and vote on putting Babar on trial in the UK. The people have spoken, the lawyers have spoken; now let the MPs speak.”

http://www.freebabarahmad.com/press...r-parliament-to-debate-babar-ahmad-e-petition

Heard touching..What was the original language of this poem?

English. He's a born and bred Brit, except that the British "justice" system is letting him down.

 

[~Raindrop~]

Debate in Westminster Hall starts at 2.30. (about 35 mins left)

Watch it live here:

http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=9420

May Allah swt accept our prayers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15866541

 

[Salahudeen]

^I missed the debate, any joy?

 

[Insaanah]

24-Nov-2011: PRESS RELEASE: Caroline Lucas MP calls for Public Inquiry into CPS handling of Babar Ahmad case

The Free Babar Ahmad (FBA) Campaign supports Dr Caroline Lucas MP’s call for a full public inquiry into the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) after learning that it has admitted for the first time that it was never shown the evidence in relation to Babar Ahmad upon which it could have made a decision to prosecute him here.

Dr Lucas made her comments in a Westminster Hall debate on extradition and putting Babar Ahmad on trial in the UK. She made the claim based on a letter dated 22nd November in which the CPS states that the police did not send them the evidence on which Babar Ahmad is being prosecuted in the US, for it to make a decision. Instead the police, having searched Babar Ahmad’s house in December 2003 and detained him under the Terrorism Act for six days, sent the evidence to the US.

It appears that no review has ever taken place in this country of the evidence that was sent to the US, even though it was all seized by the Metropolitan Police in London for the then claimed purpose of investigating offences in the UK.

The Free Babar Ahmad Campaign welcomed Jane Ellison MP’s comments during the debate that the Backbench Business Committee was “more than happy to hear further representations in the future from other backbenchers for time in the Chamber to return to the subject”.

The father of Babar Ahmad, Ashfaq Ahmad stated:

“It is quite shocking to learn that the CPS made no effort to examine the evidence seized from Babar’s home but instead simply outsourced our criminal justice system to the US. Had it examined the evidence, then it could quite easily have prosecuted Babar in the UK."

"We support Dr Lucas’ call for a public enquiry into the behaviour of the CPS and reiterate our call for a full review by the Director of Public Prosecutions of all the evidence in this case with a view to putting Babar on trial in the UK."

"We welcome the consensus of the 35 MPs who attended the debate for the matter to be listed for a full debate in the main Chamber of the House of Commons.”

http://www.freebabarahmad.com/press...inquiry-into-cps-handling-of-babar-ahmad-case

 

[Ali_008]

^^^ That is good news alhamdulillah. Lets keep praying that he is put to a fair trial and released soon inshAllah.

 

[جوري]

ameen ya rabb... may kol asra almoslmeen almostad3feen fi al'ard fi mashariqha and maghribha be granted justice and vindication. May Allah swt give us ummat moemina wa osli7 min sha'anina ajm3een ..
I'd like for the pakistani Govt. to demand that the Pakistani neuro-scientist who was imprisoned falsely by this kaffir country be released at once as well.. They complain about ignorance but let them kill or imprison our scientists... sob7an Allah.. what a time this is for Muslims that the pigs and donkeys of the world get to immure & torture us simply because they felt like it!

 

[Insaanah]

Open letter from Babar's father, Ashfaq Ahmad:

26 November 2011

Dear Supporters

Thursday 24 November 2011 will forever be remembered as the day when the people of Britain demonstrated that, when united together irrespective of race, religion or political background, they could bring about real political change. That day, I sat in Westminster Hall watching 35 MPs, one after another rise to speak out against the injustice of our extradition laws and specifically calling for justice for my son Babar Ahmad, now in his eighth year of detention without trial.

The primary reason behind such a powerful presence was because of the tireless efforts you all have put in over the last three months. I was abroad whilst the petition campaign was underway but was monitoring it closely via Facebook and YouTube. As the number of signatures began to rise day after day, hour after hour, I sat at my computer screen all night praying that we would cross the 100,000 target. It was like watching a thrilling one-day international cricket match.

When I found out that our petition, having obtained over 140,000 signatures, was to be debated in Westminster Hall, I was shocked. This was after all the same debating chamber that Natascha Engel, the Chair of the Backbench Business Committee, complained to the BBC about in June this year highlighting that the debates were not very well attended, it was a second rate debating chamber with no vote taken at the end.

I am sure that I am not the only one who was greatly disappointed by this decision. This was not the first setback we have faced over the last eight years but definitely one of the most painful as it seemed the government was going back on its promise. It seemed that all our hard work had gone to waste. I am sure all of you felt the same. I then recalled the words of Hannibal when trying to cross the Alps: “We will either find a way or make a way”.

I told my children that we had to stand up and demand that the government honour their promise. We had to make our way. As news filtered out about the decision of the Backbench Business Committee, a few were ready to give up, and I do not blame them, but most it seemed were ready to fight. In recent weeks, you have bombarded your own MPs and the Backbench Business Committee with emails and telephone calls demanding this issue to be raised at the highest level, the Commons debating chamber. It is no understatement to say that you have shaken Westminster.

Finally at the debate on Thursday, Ms Jane Ellison MP, said that the Backbench Business Committee noted the enormous interest in Babar’s case and was more than happy to take further representations for time in the main Commons debating chamber, which all MPs present agreed with. Watching this happen before my eyes, I could not believe it. We are making our way and nothing is going to stop us, God willing.

I never thought that at the age of 77, I would have spent the last eight years fighting for justice for my son, but I have never felt more strongly, more passionately and have never been more optimistic that we are on the verge of making history, and bringing a fair resolution to this issue. So I thank all 140,969 of you that signed the petition, and all those who wanted to but didn’t get the opportunity, for your breathtaking efforts in fighting this injustice. The road so far has been a difficult one and I am sure there will be numerous challenges ahead, but let us reaffirm our resolve, recommit to this call for justice and let us be uncompromising in our appal to our government to recognise its responsibilities to its own citizens. I invite you to continue with me on this journey of seeking justice for my son Babar Ahmad.

I leave you with the words of legendary boxer Muhammad Ali: “If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize.”

Yours

Ashfaq Ahmad

http://freebabarahmad.com/the-story/latest-news/item/230-open-letter-from-ashfaq-ahmad-to-supporters

Highlights of the debate here: http://freebabarahmad.com/the-story...-westminster-hall-extradition-debate-24/11/11
Full transcript (text) of the debate here: http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2011-11-24a.147.0
Video here: http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=9420

 

[ابن آل مرة]

Free Babar Ahmad Campaign Welcomes Full Parliamentary Debate on Extradition

With over 141,000 people having signed an online petition and following extensive discussion within the Backbench Business Committee, the Free Babar Ahmad (FBA) Campaign is pleased to announce the scheduling of a full votable parliamentary debate on extradition on Monday 5th December.

The debate has been scheduled following enormous criticism of the Backbench Business Committee’s earlier decision to schedule the debate in Westminster Chamber where not all MPs were permitted to participate and where there was no vote.

Ashfaq Ahmad, father of Babar Ahmad said,

“It has been a long and hard fought battle. The opportunity to get the issue of extradition debated in parliament is an important milestone, both for my son and a number of other individuals affected by this unfair piece of legislation.”

“While the final text of the motion fails to mention Babar Ahmad explicitly, it is clear through discussion with various MPs that it is as a direct result of my son’s plight and the subsequent overwhelming public support for the call to try my son in the UK, that this issue is being brought before parliament.”

“It is essential that any reforms to the extradition laws that are voted for apply to pending cases such as Babar’s as it would be absolutely immoral to extradite British citizens under a Treaty that has been found by Parliament to be unfair.”

The full text of the motion is as follows:

“That this House calls upon the Government to reform the UK’s extradition arrangements as a matter of urgency to strengthen the protection of British citizens: by introducing a Bill in Parliament to enact the safeguards recommended by the Joint Committee on Human Rights in its Fifteenth Report of 2010-12, and by pursuing such amendments to the UK-US Extradition Treaty 2003 and the EU Council Framework Decision 2002 on the European Arrest Warrant as are necessary in order to give effect to such recommendations.”