The "BACKLASH" has Started

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Salaam,

I have realized since the protest around the world, about the publication of the cartoons. That this forum has had a lot of Non-Muslim join and express there anger on the Muslims. But there has been some Non-Muslims who truly want to know what is Islam is.

What do You Think?
 
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i think that it's good that non-muslims are joining LI
:inshallah they will learn more about Islam from us! :amin:
ma' salaam
 
As Salam olaikum. Yes there will be backlash in different forms. New laws, innocent people being arrested, harrased, beaten and even killed. Just like the backlash after 911. SubhanAllah theres a saying that after every hardship there is ease. And the ease which we muslims will see inshaAllah will be through the comfort of seening more and more non-muslims taking interest in the deen. Just like after 911, you would have expected people to despise the religion, but what happends, more and more people took an interest. After 911there was an increase in the number of new muslims in the lands which was once called the land of the brave land of the free. So we should be prepared for a backlash, but at the same time be prepared to give dower where and when apprpriate and possible.
 
Its hard hearing the truth. If ou want evidence for that go and have a look in your national libray and look up statistics for change of religious belief. Its amazing some of the stuff youl find. why would you want to take offense of people turning to islam?
 
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Some non-muslims came on the other day just for a joke. some are here inshallah to learn, ut we aren't setting a good example. Some bros started swearing at the non-muslims, we shouldn't have done that
 
Salaam said:
Salaam,

I have realized since the protest around the world, about the publication of the cartoons. That this forum has had a lot of Non-Muslim join and express there anger on the Muslims. But there has been some Non-Muslims who truly want to know what is Islam is.

What do You Think?
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I know many people have seen that I found out and I'm learning about Islam because of an interest in a girl. I have found Muslim peoples ideas about somethings differ greatly compaired to Non-Muslims. I've only read a little bit about the cartoons. To me it's no big deal..a cartoon is a cartoon. It is of little value. But I heard that men with guns threatened the writers. That's a bit much to me. I think that's very uncool. I can understand protesting...But I like MLK style of non-violence. It seems more effective. Using a gun never solves anything. It only makes Islam look like a violent religion, IMO. I keep hearing and learning that true Islam is not violent. I like that fact. I'm peaceful person.

Benny
 
I think its nice to find people who are open to discussion!

I came here following some of those 'haters' who got banned, and seeing how they acted on here I no longer would call them my friends.

I am not here to refute or to insult but to learn. there may be things some of you do that I do not agree with we may even do things that offend each other's values, but that is because we are different, not because we want to hurt each other, i think.
 
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I think its nice to find people who are open to discussion!

I came here following some of those 'haters' who got banned, and seeing how they acted on here I no longer would call them my friends.

I am not here to refute or to insult but to learn. there may be things some of you do that I do not agree with we may even do things that offend each other's values, but that is because we are different, not because we want to hurt each other, i think.
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Hey..


I hope you dont mind, but do you want to share the part you said in blue. Not tryin to be offensive, but you may want to find out the reasons behind our actions and vice versa; because intention plays a major role within all our actions, and within islam.

Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him and his beloved family) even mentioned this:

"Actions are but by intentions and every man (or woman) will have only what he (/she) intended.."



So just out of curiousity, what are the actions that you disagree with in islam. Hope you dont mind me asking.


Peace.
 
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I thought you meant WWE Backlash, in which case that event happened months ago. :p

I agree with most of the people who have posted so far:
There have been a few nincompoops who been ruining everything but similarly there have been a few guys/gals who actually want to learn etc. The nincompoops got banned. Back of the net!
 
Salaam,

Boycotting Israeli and Danish goods is perfectly justifiable. I like that you are promoting those ideas as a response.

And yes, I came here for the very purpose you posted. I am just shocked by the behavior of so many muslims all over the world. Not just this event, but more generally the path that we all seem to be going down. Intolerance and conflict.

Your response to boycott is absolutely perfect. It's very heartening to see that.

But I have to ask, is there anything being done in your community to denounce violence and to denounce and isolate any people that may promote it.

If not, I beg you to put your efforts there. They are the cause for this backlash. And while these cartoons speak to all of Islam, I can assure you that everyone that has viewed them knows that they are not a direct attack on Islam or Muhammed, but they are an attack on the people that interpret Muhammed's teaching in a way to justify their violence.

If you say, "no, I don't think muslims should be violent in this way" then automatically, you are not the target of the cartoon.

You embody the hopes of all westerners that decent muslims will take back their religion and rid it of the individuals that are guilty of supporting violent acts.
 
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If you say, "no, I don't think muslims should be violent in this way" then automatically, you are not the target of the cartoon.

You embody the hopes of all westerners that decent muslims will take back their religion and rid it of the individuals that are guilty of supporting violent acts.
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I agree with this, very much, it is the actions of a minority which provoke the hostile views of islam. In the same way, I do not take offense at jokes or comments about paedophile priests or the IRA because I know they do not refer to me.

Fi_Sabilillah, the bit in blue... I am very much a pacifist, I believe only god can decide when someone dies, it is not for me to make that decision as a punishment to them. The whole time they are alive, they have the chance to redeem themselves.

When people kill in the name of my religion, I think 'well, they are not one of us, not truly' so I am curious to find out more about islam and why there is so much publicity about killing infidels being acceptable, and what your scripture says about this, where people get this idea from, and how many people hold it...

I am also curious as to the lifestyles of muslims living in a culture with different values to theirs, to what extent one tries to integrate, and to what extent one fights to change the things that make it difficult, even when these things are integral to the 'indiginous' culture... lots of questions!

really, I want to correct my own misconceptions, and have more information to pass on to my more bigoted friends!
 
I'd say I joined with the hopes of understanding the Muslim perspective better. I don't really have any interest in exploring the religion as something I'd personally join, but I do want to better understand the Muslim perspective.

I think it's very easy (and very ignorant) to watch the news in Canada and develop anger towards Islam, b/c we are shown so many negative images. I've always been told by Muslim friends that the people who propogate violence are a minority among Muslims.

But in viewing this board, it still appears there are a slim majority who support violence so long as it is retaliatory.

I've found that somewhat disheartening....as I expected moderate Muslims to form a majority on here. Maybe I'll just have to do more reading.
 
A non-extremist. Someone who doesn't promote violence.

A political centrist...but Islamic.
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Im afraid that explanation is not good enough mate! :grumbling

Jihad is an essential part of Islam.
So would you call someone fighting on the path of Jihad for the sake of Allah (swt) an extremist? Are Chechen , kashmiri , Afghan fighters extremists?
 
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Im afraid that explanation is not good enough mate! :grumbling

Jihad is an essential part of Islam.
So would you call someone fighting on the path of Jihad for the sake of Allah (swt) an extremist? Are Chechen , kashmiri , Afghan fighters extremists?
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I think this is the thing non-muslims are striving to understand...

what defines a just war? who are 'just targets'?
what justifies the violence.

You are certainly one step ahead of the current UK government whose standards are simply 'you got it, we want it, we kill you' which I find abhorrent.

But what rules are there as to who can be killed? and how much consensus is there among muslims? links to relevant information would be much appreciated.
 

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