The "BACKLASH" has Started

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Salaam i think you are accutly accurate, i myself am rather dismayed by the guffawing in central London but no more than when over priviliged green thinkers ransack Burger King out of frustration and a longing to belong each May Day. I myself as a non Muslim with no religious background or enforced faith education am here as i find myself at a crossroads in life and am seeking possible solice in the quaran as the alleged final word of god.
 
wesleyjfreeman said:
Salaam i think you are accutly accurate, i myself am rather dismayed by the guffawing in central London but no more than when over priviliged green thinkers ransack Burger King out of frustration and a longing to belong each May Day. I myself as a non Muslim with no religious background or enforced faith education am here as i find myself at a crossroads in life and am seeking possible solice in the quaran as the alleged final word of god.
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I for one, say:welcome: :) welcome to you, May Allah grant, and increase your knowledge. ameen...
 
Salaam said:
Salaam,

I have realized since the protest around the world, about the publication of the cartoons. That this forum has had a lot of Non-Muslim join and express there anger on the Muslims. But there has been some Non-Muslims who truly want to know what is Islam is.

What do You Think?
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I can only speak for myself. I want to know about Islam. The reason that I joined now is because I am confused and wanted to hear about what Muslims thought about what happened just because I do not believe every thing that is put in front of me.

I will have lots of other questions in the future. I´m living in a city with very many Muslims and I will need some guidelines in the future since I am going to work in a school with many Muslim children. I do not want to offend people not now or not in the future.

But if I have came to the wrong place and the forum is not the place for me then I have to find other ways. The least I want is to be in the middle of a "word war" and have to choose side in any conflict.
 
Anette said:
The least I want is to be in the middle of a "word war" and have to choose side in any conflict.
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I hope I got that right, my english is not the best. I meant that I do not want to be a part of conflicts between muslims and non-muslims at this forum.
 
Anette said:
I can only speak for myself. I want to know about Islam. The reason that I joined now is because I am confused and wanted to hear about what Muslims thought about what happened just because I do not believe every thing that is put in front of me.

I will have lots of other questions in the future. I´m living in a city with very many Muslims and I will need some guidelines in the future since I am going to work in a school with many Muslim children. I do not want to offend people not now or not in the future.

But if I have came to the wrong place and the forum is not the place for me then I have to find other ways. The least I want is to be in the middle of a "word war" and have to choose side in any conflict.
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If u are here to learn sister...I am here to help u all I can...I am a convert of 5 years, alhamdolillah.......fell free to ask help, but please sister, be serious,,as I take my faith very serious,,,,and here to help anyone with desire to learn, inshaAllah..
 
Feh. I think any backlash would be nothing more than reaping what you are sowing.

Remember that it wasn't Jews or Christians who slammed that airplane into the WTC.

ALthough you guys probably believe the lie that 4000 jews didn't show up to work that day.
 
Buddy said:
Feh. I think any backlash would be nothing more than reaping what you are sowing.

Remember that it wasn't Jews or Christians who slammed that airplane into the WTC.

ALthough you guys probably believe the lie that 4000 jews didn't show up to work that day.
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I heard 4000 jews didn't turn up to work that day, and believe it to be true, but i see nothing suspicious in this, as i've heard it was their special religious day and that's why they didn't come to work. you can check it up, i've only heard this, i haven't checked it up myself :)
 
Moss said:
as i've heard it was their special religious day
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Right. It was "Dont Get Killed" day. A very sacred Jewish holiday. They also let all the Christians and atheists know about it secretly by text messaging them a few hours beforehand (because a lot of businessmen in the US use text messages to communicate.). So really, only Muslims were killed in the World Trade Center bombings, because no one told them not to show up for work. So like the good hardworking Muslims they are, they showed up to work and were killed. By who you ask? Well, Osama bin Laden might have claimed to be responsible, but he's probably just a nutty guy anyway. We know the real truth. The plains were hijacked by remote control stations located in Israel by Israeli Jews. They flew the plains into the towers then they blamed it all on Muslims. Shame on them.
 
martina said:
Right. It was "Dont Get Killed" day. A very sacred Jewish holiday. They also let all the Christians and atheists know about it secretly by text messaging them a few hours beforehand (because a lot of businessmen in the US use text messages to communicate.). So really, only Muslims were killed in the World Trade Center bombings, because no one told them not to show up for work. So like the good hardworking Muslims they are, they showed up to work and were killed. By who you ask? Well, Osama bin Laden might have claimed to be responsible, but he's probably just a nutty guy anyway. We know the real truth. The plains were hijacked by remote control stations located in Israel by Israeli Jews. They flew the plains into the towers then they blamed it all on Muslims. Shame on them.
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I dnt knw if you're being sarcastic or serious
I'm not blaming jews or anything, whoever did it, allah will punish them
I was just trying to say, that regarding the rumour that no jews were in that day, i've heard there is a perfectly good excuse and reason for this, it was their special holy day, apparently they have 10 of them a year or so, i don't really know
 
Buddy said:
Feh. I think any backlash would be nothing more than reaping what you are sowing.

Remember that it wasn't Jews or Christians who slammed that airplane into the WTC.

ALthough you guys probably believe the lie that 4000 jews didn't show up to work that day.
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Salaam

Will one of the brothers/sisters kindly give a link for loose change in here, I suggest you watch it and you'll see were not responsible.
 
Greetings Anette,

Welcome to the forum! You have done the right thing to find out what Muslims actually think about the current affairs of the world, as well as find out about their beliefs, by coming to this forum and not believing everything you are exposed to. It is certainly an important aspect of clarifying confusion and promoting understanding between people of different beliefs, which helps us get along together in society. Please feel free to ask any questions and feel at home here!

Greetings Buddy,

Feh. I think any backlash would be nothing more than reaping what you are sowing.

Remember that it wasn't Jews or Christians who slammed that airplane into the WTC.
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Backlash can indeed be expected due to the seeds being sown by poorly-educated individuals, just as it can be expected in response to seeds of religious hatred being planted by the media.

Going back to the topic of this thread; there are people who are joining the forum to simply abuse Muslims without wanting to find out what they really think about the situation. This kind of backlash is unnecessary since the majority of Muslims condemn the violence that is going on.

All religions have bad "followers" who, in actual fact, know very little about that religion and therefore act in opposition to it yet still claim to follow it. This kind of ignorance often paints a negative image of that religion when narrow-minded people focus on them only and not the majority of people who do not support their actions.

Regards.
 
akulion said:
yes it seems so thats what is killing my compassion in my heart slowly

u know when you get pushed too much and all the time its your fault

then something inside you starts to die and the heart starts to become hard

I think that is happening to me slowly because now I dont feel sad at the loss of non muslims
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this is the real heartbreak :wilted_ro :wilted_ro
I saw the film Munich yesterday, and it made me slightly sick, the line 'I only care when Israeli blood is split' (or similar)

and when each side justifies their actions by what the other side have done.

maybe there is no way to stop this hate and we will all end up in a living hell.
 
Muhammad said:
Backlash can indeed be expected due to the seeds being sown by poorly-educated individuals, just as it can be expected in response to seeds of religious hatred being planted by the media.

Going back to the topic of this thread; there are people who are joining the forum to simply abuse Muslims without wanting to find out what they really think about the situation. This kind of backlash is unnecessary since the majority of Muslims condemn the violence that is going on.

All religions have bad "followers" who, in actual fact, know very little about that religion and therefore act in opposition to it yet still claim to follow it. This kind of ignorance often paints a negative image of that religion when narrow-minded people focus on them only and not the majority of people who do not support their actions.

Regards.
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Hi there,
How can we say who is a "bad follower", when violent acts against non muslims are called for in the Quaran?
Not trying to bad mouth anybody or Islam, but isnt the justification for murderous acts right there in the Quran and Hadith?
Respectfully,
PAPA LAZAROU.
 
PAPA LAZAROU said:
Hi there,
How can we say who is a "bad follower", when violent acts against non muslims are called for in the Quaran?
Not trying to bad mouth anybody or Islam, but isnt the justification for murderous acts right there in the Quran and Hadith?
Respectfully,
PAPA LAZAROU.
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out of curiosity, is there anything in there about respect for the laws of the community you live in, if it is not an islamic community?
(I ask this in ignorance of your scripture, but in mine such things are clearly stated)
 
Hello, and welcome to the forums!

PAPA LAZAROU said:
How can we say who is a "bad follower", when violent acts against non muslims are called for in the Quaran?
Not trying to bad mouth anybody or Islam, but isnt the justification for murderous acts right there in the Quran and Hadith?
Respectfully,
PAPA LAZAROU.
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Out of interest, have you read the Qur'an or checked these Hadith? If not, then I assume this is something you have probably heard. Well allow me to clarify that the Qur'an does not allow injustice towards anyone, and Muslims and non-Muslims alike are encouraged to live peacefully.

Please have a look at the following threads/links, and I hope it will help you to understand, God-Willing. Thankyou for your interest :).

http://www.islamicboard.com/refutations/9124-qur-violence.html
http://www.load-islam.com/c/rebuttals/Misquoted

Peace.
 
fluff said:
out of curiosity, is there anything in there about respect for the laws of the community you live in, if it is not an islamic community?
(I ask this in ignorance of your scripture, but in mine such things are clearly stated)
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Hi there fluff,
I am not saying the books of Islam are devoid of good qualities.

heres one from the Quran about respect for the society you live in:
25:52, So obey not the disbelievers, but strive against them herewith with a great endeavour.

do i need to quote the lines, (of which there are quite a few) that call for violent action against the non believer?

47:4, Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.

9:73, O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.

9:123, O ye who believe! fight the unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know that Allah is with those who fear Him.

8:65, O Prophet! rouse the Believers to the fight. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers.

9:14, Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers.

Pay particular attention to the number of this surrah:

9:111, Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur’an.

How is a non muslim to feel when he took an interest in Islam, and found so much hatred? Thanking you for this discussion,
Respectfully,
PAPA LAZAROU.
 
akulion said:
also the news keeps labeling the Muslims by religion

while other religion people are labeled by their name only or their nationality

its so biased
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I totally agree with that!!! It isn't fair that the media is making it about religion. I mean you hear some people get offended just because we say Americans or the Danish but then they don't understand why someone is offended when they say something in terms of Islam.
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