The Buraq

[M.I.A.]

sorry bro i couldnt read that without zers and zabbers,
maybe better if you could post translations for those of us that cant read or understand arabic.



jazak allah khair.

 

[aadil77]

sorry bro i couldnt read that without zers and zabbers,
maybe better if you could post translations for those of us that cant read or understand arabic.



jazak allah khair.

I think that was meant to be a challenge for saad17 since he thinks he's some scholar of islam

 

[Ramadhan]

what that manner is for certain i do not know but i guess even if we are praying wrong then it will be accepted with the correct intention.

The manner of shalah is explained in DETAILS in many hadiths shahih and hasan.

I am surprised you did not know this.

Otherwise, how do you think that all muslims come to pray in a similar way, more than a billion of them, and 1,400 years long.

 

[Saad17]

Sometime we make things more complicated than they need be. We really only know that the Baraq was a creature that had never been seen by human eyes before and possibly will never be seen again, we are getting a human description of something that probably can not be described fully in human terms.

When we look at things never seen before and try to describe them to people that never saw them. the person hearing the description often conjecture up an unreliable image. Yet the description can be understood and is sufficient for others to recognize the creature if they ever do happen to see it.

In just human terms look at the early description of things like whales, kangaroos, giraffes to people that never saw them and tried to draw pictures of them. Old biology text books look quite ridiculous, and the descriptions can sound quite bizarre, until a person sees for themselves the creature described.

I have never seen a Baraq and doubt if I ever will. I really can not even imagine what it would look like. Yet based upon the description if I ever saw one I am certain I would know it was a Baraq based upon the description, even though it were quite different from what in my limited imagination I envision.

Ancient sailors described mermaids. These became envisioned as half woman and half fish. Thought to be mythical. But we now know they were describing Manatees and duagongs and the descriptions were accurate, The myths came about from those who never saw a manatee and tried to envision one based on the verbal descriptions.

Now this is the only reasonable answer I have found.
Thank you Woodrow.

You guys should be like Woodrow.

Since I don't see a better answer, feel free to lock this thread.

P.S: I have been labeled a misguided, arrogant, ignorant, Hindu, hadith-rejecter, sunnah-rejecter and only-quranist in a single thread! A new record, not even non-Muslims I met labeled me so much.

 

[aadil77]

Now this is the only reasonable answer I have found.
Thank you Woodrow.

You guys should be like Woodrow.

Since I don't see a better answer, feel free to lock this thread.

P.S: I have been labeled a misguided, arrogant, ignorant, Hindu, hadith-rejecter, sunnah-rejecter and only-quranist in a single thread! A new record, not even non-Muslims I met labeled me so much.

next time try asking a question, instead of imposing your deviant views and agenda at the same time

 

[Saad17]

next time try asking a question, instead of imposing your deviant views and agenda at the same time

I call Allah as a witness that I don't think I'm a scholar , I'm not imposing my views on anyone nor any agenda for I don't have any agenda and I was asking a question.

But do you believe that making guesses about me, jumping to conclusions (that I think I am a scholar) and bashing me is a good thing? Is this how you address people you find different? Seriously, you're no different than the Non-Muslims calling me terrorist or a Satan-worshiper .

 

[aadil77]

I call Allah as a witness that I don't think I'm a scholar , I'm not imposing my views on anyone nor any agenda for I don't have any agenda and I was asking a question.

But do you believe that making guesses about me, jumping to conclusions (that I think I am a scholar) and bashing me is a good thing? Is this how you address people you find different? Seriously, you're no different than the Non-Muslims calling me terrorist or a Satan-worshiper .

Allah knows best, but think carefully about how you ask questions next time

Did you think about how traditional muslims would feel when reading such views?:

1. I don't believe Allah would make such a creature mean of transport, a winged creature (with a face of a woman?). It just sounds a little ridiculous, I mean virgin birth of Jesus (PBUH) or 600 winged form of Angel Gabriel sounds very interesting or at least are considered to be valid information about someone we are aware of but mentioning the Buraq sounds pointless to me. Maybe it exists but I don't wanna picture something like Pegasus the winged horse or so.
2. The event where Allah would lower the number of Salat on constant request of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is not correct since according to the Quran the number of prayers are 5 and the Jews did pray 5 times during and before the time of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) so Salat isn't anything new, the method and the timing are the same for all generations. So according to this event, I would say that this Hadith is invalid.

Its not about whether you're different, you are free to ask questions, we're all here to gain knowledge - none of us are scholars here. But there's a manner and ettiquette to asking questions, you shouldn't have included your personal opinions along with those questions - some members will find those opinions very offensive - especially coming from another muslim.

 

[Woodrow]

I believe this thread has gone far enough.

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