The Earth is Expanding!

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That is wicked :D Thanks for sharing.

100 years of scientific theory out the window LOL! Ouchy. What does the Qur'an say about this, btw.
 
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Just a thought. I seem to recall that somewhere in the Qur'an we are told the universe is expnding. If the universe is expanding, and since we are part of the universe, isn't it logical that the earth is expanding?

Now if I can find the ayyats that refer to the universe expanding.
 
Woodrow said:
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Just a thought. I seem to recall that somewhere in the Qur'an we are told the universe is expnding. If the universe is expanding, and since we are part of the universe, isn't it logical that the earth is expanding?

Now if I can find the ayyats that refer to the universe expanding.
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Noble Verse 51:47"And the firmament, We constructed with power and skill and verily We are expanding it."

The Universe will also shrink: "The Day that We roll up the heavens like a scroll rolled up for books (completed),- even as We produced the first creation, so shall We produce a new one: a promise We have undertaken: truly shall We fulfil it. (The Noble Quran, 21:104)"


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"The universe starts with a Big Bang, expands to a maximum dimension, then recontracts and collapses (to the Big Crunch); no more awe-inspiring prediction was ever made." Quotation from Charles W. Misner, Kip S. Thorne and John A. Wheeler in "Gravitation", W. H. Freeman, San Francisco, 1973, page 1196.
 
islamirama said:
Noble Verse 51:47"And the firmament, We constructed with power and skill and verily We are expanding it."

The Universe will also shrink: "The Day that We roll up the heavens like a scroll rolled up for books (completed),- even as We produced the first creation, so shall We produce a new one: a promise We have undertaken: truly shall We fulfil it. (The Noble Quran, 21:104)"



"The universe starts with a Big Bang, expands to a maximum dimension, then recontracts and collapses (to the Big Crunch); no more awe-inspiring prediction was ever made." Quotation from Charles W. Misner, Kip S. Thorne and John A. Wheeler in "Gravitation", W. H. Freeman, San Francisco, 1973, page 1196.
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JZK that is what I was looking for,
 
Isambard said:
I wondered the same thing....and how rock expands...unless the Earth is really a baloon lol
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lol, well it might have something to do withthe fact that the core is hot, perhaps as it cold it expanded? but then that doesn't make sense, wouldn't that have caused climate change? hmmm maybe that is what killed the dinosaurs after all. :blind:
 
Malaikah said:
That is interesting!

And it isn't a joke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expanding_earth_theory

What I want to know is WHERE DID ALL THE WATER COME FROM?!
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I found this video about the expanding earth to be simply amazing. The explanation seemed plausible to me. Isn't there supposed to be an increase in earthquakes near the end of time? If so, this could be due to an accelerated expansion of the earth.

Yeah, where did the water come from? What about all of the salt that is disolved in the oceans?

Where did the oil come from? How did it get so deep into the earth?

Too many questions and too finite of a mind to comprehend it all.
 
I don't know the details of this theorie so I won't make any judgements, just thinking out loud here,
1. I don't think the theory holds that there was no water before, but that the water from the current oceans was just on the continents (hence the fish-fossils in china and france etc)
2. As for "rock expanding" I Could think of a number of ways:
lowering the surrounding pressure (think of a baloon filled with air in a vacuum), In case of the earth, the surrounding presure has alrways been low as space is a vacuum, the trigger could then be that at some point the surface gains elasticity, or the core loses mass and the gravitational pull weakens.
Yet another cause could be the earth is warming up, though that would pose even bigger questions, it be more probable to assume the earth is cooling down, in which case it would be expected to shrink if temperature is significant.

The point that I got lost was where science would be threatened by this theory and form a conspiracy against it. I seem to be missing the links there :)
 
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Isambard said:
Spoiler Alert!

This isnt a real theory.....
I posted it because its a joke...
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Anyway, the title of this 'Youtube' Video is 'Conspiracy....' :D

No seriously. The earth is shrinking. Why? Because the core which is made of liquid magma is cooling down. And remember what happen to a cake, when it comes out of the oven? It shrink inside the shape. Same thing happen to the earth.
The continents are drifting, because the tectonic plates are floating on the magma.
 
Here's a thought...

Look at the sun or any star and its life span. Some die out and become dwarfs and thus decrease in size and some become red stars or other super giants. So if the stars can change size, why not planets?
 
islamirama said:
Here's a thought...

Look at the sun or any star and its life span. Some die out and become dwarfs and thus decrease in size and some become red stars or other super giants. So if the stars can change size, why not planets?
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The earth is growing and expanding, but not by the exact method as described in the Original post.

One type of growth is through meteors. We gain a lot of weight and size daily.

I like this article, Scientific fact, but written as a story.

“Hold on!” cried Raed. “There are 400,000,000 of them on any ordinary night of the year. But, during April, August, and November, there are more, — sometimes vast showers like that of 1833: so, reckoning in these months, the average would be more than 400,000,000 per diem. Ques*tion arises, how much more?”

“As much again,” said Wash; “800,000,000 on an average.”

“One-half more,” said Wade; “600,000,000 on an average.”

“Split the difference!” cried Raed; “call it 700,000,000. Now how many pounds at one grain each?”

“Let’s see,” said Wade. “How many grains in a pound avoirdupois?”

“7,000,” said Wash. “Now we have it, then, — 100,000 pounds of meteors fall to the earth daily.”

“How much in a year?” demanded Raed.

“365 times 100,000,” repeated Wade; “36,500,000 pounds per year.”

“How much per century ?”

“3,650,000,000 pounds!” cried Wash.

“How many tons would that be? Divide by 2,000.”

“1,825,000 tons!” exclaimed Wade.
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Source: http://www.kellscraft.com/CampingOut/CampingOut12.html

Now that explains growth, but expansion is a little different. the earth is also expanding as the universe expands. This has in part to do with reduction in molecular attraction as gravity decays. The decay rate of gravity can be measured. If somebody is good at math they can calulate the rate molecules are moving away from each other and demonstrate the expansion rate of the earth. I'm too lazy. But, here is a little info on the rate of gravitational decay.

The decay rate of cosmological gravitational potential measures the deviation from Einsteinndashde Sitter universe and can put strong constraints on the nature of dark energy and gravity. The usual method to measure this decay rate is through the integrated Sachs-Wolfe (ISW) effectndashlarge-scale structure (LSS) cross-correlation. However, the interpretation of the measured correlation signal is complicated by galaxy bias and the matter power spectrum. This could bias and/or degrade its constraints on the nature of dark energy and gravity. But combining the lensing-LSS cross-correlation measurements, the decay rate of gravitational potential can be isolated. For any given narrow redshift bin of LSS, the ratio of the two cross-correlations directly measures dlnDphis/dlnaH(z)/W(chi,chis), where Dphis is the linear growth factor of the gravitational potential, H is the Hubble constant at redshift z, W(chi,chis) is the lensing kernel, and chi and chis are the comoving angular diameter distance to lens and source, respectively. This method is optimal in the sense that (1) the measured quantity is essentially free of systematic errors and is only limited by cosmic variance, and (2) the measured quantity depends only on several cosmological parameters and can be predicted from first principles unambiguously. Although fundamentally limited by the inevitably large cosmic variance associated with the ISW measurements, it can still put useful independent constraints on the amount of dark energy and its equation of state. It can also provide a powerful test of modified gravity and can distinguish the Dvali-Gabadadze-Porrati model from LambdaCDM at >2.5 sigma confidence level.
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Source: http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/resolve?id=doi:10.1086/505297&erFrom=-2160764290511209576Guest
 
Here's a thought...

Look at the sun or any star and its life span. Some die out and become dwarfs and thus decrease in size and some become red stars or other super giants. So if the stars can change size, why not planets?
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Why not? I don't know, maybe because they have different sizes, different substances, different temperatures :)

No seriously. The earth is shrinking. Why? Because the core which is made of liquid magma is cooling down. And remember what happen to a cake, when it comes out of the oven? It shrink inside the shape. Same thing happen to the earth.
The continents are drifting, because the tectonic plates are floating on the magma.
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Yeah I agree, as I states this before to, however I do not think this temperature drop is enough to make significant differences in size.
Good thing we have global warming to slow that cooling off process down :p:p:p
 

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