The 'hiding among civilians' excuse

[guyabano]

I'm not escaping reality here. If they did something i didn't approve of then i would not lie just to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Kidman

Of course you would ! Don't deny that!
There were lot of threads where have been prooven, shown pictures and videos of atrocities of the hezbollah, and still, some here, including you, pretend, it is only conspiracies, or lies !

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Hezbollah using civilians as sheilds? Well, then, what about Israel?:

Not too old, but if happened then, surely its happening now as well.

 

[Woodrow]

Excellent post Ahmed. One good verifiable picture can show the Palestinian view better than any written word.

 

[Lamaggad]

Ahmad you are the best... picture never lie what so ever.
some people here doesn't understand the israeli ideology, they don't understand the hate that thy carry against Ararabs... they don't understand how those zionists think that they are above all mankind and above all rules and all religions.

they allow for them selves what God have fobidden them... they keep killing, destroy, bomb... etc. and at the end they punish them selves in suturday thinking that they can be forgevin from the greatest sins they have made to civilians...

the hole "destroying Hezb Allah" excuse was actually to destroy Lebanon not Hezb Allah, having a war with Hezb Allah was just an excuse to destroy Lebanon's infrastructure...

such cowards.

 

[Hashim_507]

Lamaggad i want ask you question...
Why can't arab brothers and sisters unite?
Do you think this uccupation in palestine would have happen if they had united?

 

[brainiac]

While the photo of the kid tied to the jeep is crazy, I don't think this action got anyone killed. Hezbollahs cowardice has gotten hundreds of Lebanese killed.

 

[nimrod]

Woodrow, surely you see the, Apples to Oranges, propaganda factor in the use of that photo. Don’t you?

Thanks
Nimrod

Just incase you didn’t, stones verses Israeli missles?

 

[Woodrow]

Woodrow, surely you see the, Apples to Oranges, propaganda factor in the use of that photo. Don’t you?

Thanks
Nimrod

Just incase you didn’t, stones verses Israeli missles?

There is nothing to compare. If everybody would stick to posting and showing verifiable facts and photo's, the entire picture would be seen and not just the conjectures and opinions of us as individuals. No single picture or valid news story is going to show the entire picture and the whole picture will have many factors. The truth will not be comparing apples and oranges, but it most likely will contain apples and oranges.

I think the real beauty of that article is that it also gave some strong statements by a non-government Jewish Leader.

 

[guyabano]

Hezbollah using civilians as sheilds? Well, then, what about Israel?:

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4761/humanshielddv1.jpg

Not too old, but if happened then, surely its happening now as well.

This pictures show something, but also show nothing. The kid has been caught for smashing stones on jew military. So, then? That happens daily. Now where is the proove, that this kid has also been used as a human child. I just see this child sitting on the top of a jeep, rather relax.
IMHO, just another simple propaganda story, nothing more!

But this is my favorite quote, THE quote of the day:

picture never lie what so ever.

by Lamaggad

;D

 

[Lamaggad]

There is nothing to compare. If everybody would stick to posting and showing verifiable facts and photo's, the entire picture would be seen and not just the conjectures and opinions of us as individuals. No single picture or valid news story is going to show the entire picture and the whole picture will have many factors. The truth will not be comparing apples and oranges, but it most likely will contain apples and oranges.

I think the real beauty of that article is that it also gave some strong statements by a non-government Jewish Leader.

AGREED 100%

 

[Lamaggad]

Lamaggad i want ask you question...
Why can't arab brothers and sisters unite?

bcz basically we never chose our Arab leader, we do not have democratic election in the Arab world... Finally it started to happened in Lebanon and Palestine... that's why we have Hamas and Hezb Allah now, whom are there to look after our needs (prisoners, freedom and Justice).

Do you think this uccupation in palestine would have happen if they had united?

Ofcourse, the Arab leader have betrayed us and betrayed each other, and they are the one who gave israel Palestine... they have betrayed Palestinians, they didn't even fight with honor against israel... most of them were there to help israel to enter Palestine instead if kicking them out. they went after their own needs instead of the Arab world future that is ruined since israel came to our Arab Muslim lands.

 

[Hashim_507]

Lamaggad, well get rid of the puppet leaders and you will see good changes. Getting rid of them aint about war or conflicts, a smart way could be perfect stregedy. Elections, media wars, economy shutdown and ect, they will weaken by doing those actions..

 

[Lamaggad]

Lamaggad, well get rid of the puppet leaders and you will see good changes. Getting rid of them aint about war or conflicts, a smart way could be perfect stregedy. Elections, media wars, economy shutdown and ect, they will weaken by doing those actions..

Insha'ALlah that will happen soon, to be honest.. after this war, this is our only chance to speak out loud to get rid of them... some of them have betrayed Lebanon and blamed Hezb Allah bcz they are shia'a...

Hezb Allah have won the war in the ground weather they are accepting the defeat or not... now it's our opportunity to blow up on those betrayers and have clean and honest elections instead

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

This pictures show something, but also show nothing. The kid has been caught for smashing stones on jew military. So, then? That happens daily. Now where is the proove, that this kid has also been used as a human child. I just see this child sitting on the top of a jeep, rather relax.
IMHO, just another simple propaganda story, nothing more!

But this is my favorite quote, THE quote of the day:

by Lamaggad

;D

I didnt expect any better. You are blind to everything that Israel and America does. So be it.

Why can't arab brothers and sisters unite?

I think the issue is greater than that. This is more than just a war on arabs. Its a war against Islam, and until the Muslim Ummah realizes that, and puts aside petty nationalistic differences, victory will be too far. They dont want a pure Islamic State anywhere in the world. They will fight tooth and nail to stop that from occuring.

118. O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitânah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers,) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand.
119. Lo! You are the ones who love them but they love you not, and you believe in all the Scriptures [i.e. you believe in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), while they disbelieve in your Book, the Qur'ân]. And when they meet you, they say, "We believe". But when they are alone, they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage. Say: "Perish in your rage. Certainly, Allâh knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets)."120. If a good befalls you, it grieves them, but if some evil overtakes you, they rejoice at it. But if you remain patient and become Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2), not the least harm will their cunning do to you. Surely, Allâh surrounds all that they do.

 

[guyabano]

I didnt expect any better. You are blind to everything that Israel and America does. So be it.

Oh, so please tell me exactly what you see in the pic?
I didn't mention that I'm against or for any side, I just gave my opinion to what I see ! I'm not like many here, just blind of hatred, that I can't see the truth anymore!

 

[Ibn Abi Ahmed]

Oh, so please tell me exactly what you see in the pic?
I didn't mention that I'm against or for any side, I just gave my opinion to what I see ! I'm not like many here, just blind of hatred, that I can't see the truth anymore!

I saw an innocent palestinian child being used as a sheild. What did you see?

 

[Keltoi]

I saw a child tied to the hood of a car, for what purpose I cannot say. Possibly as a human shield, but there is nothing from that photo to suggest the child was in any danger.

 

[brainiac]

... saw a child tied to the hood of a car, for what purpose I cannot say. Possibly as a human shield, but there is nothing from that photo to suggest the child was in any danger...

The kid may have stopped people from throwing stones. The Lebanese civilians being killed because of Hezbollah are supposed to thwart missles. That won't work. We need Hezbolah to stop launching Katushas' from civlian areas.

 

[Keltoi]

... saw a child tied to the hood of a car, for what purpose I cannot say. Possibly as a human shield, but there is nothing from that photo to suggest the child was in any danger...

The kid may have stopped people from throwing stones. The Lebanese civilians being killed because of Hezbollah are supposed to thwart missles. That won't work. We need Hezbolah to stop launching Katushas' from civlian areas.

That was my first thought, that he was tied to the hood to stop other children from throwing stones at vehicles and what not, but I don't know for sure so I didn't suggest that.

 

[brainiac]

... that he was tied to the hood to stop other children from throwing stones at vehicles and what not...

That is what the article under the picture says. A far cry from bringing air strikes on a neighborhood, as the cowards of Hezbollah have repeatedly done. Even the UI.N. has condemned them at the very beginning of the war.