The Hypocrisy Of Muslims

[Cabdullahi]

Why do we not see those who champion equality-democracy-empowerment of women-homosexuality shun those who are 'supposedly' the polar opposite in style and the way they conduct things?

Democracy as a system, either does not exist(in the minds of these politician) or those who champion it(politicians) do not practice it the way the average Joe is taught it should be practiced, a system which, in this modern world, is the only system which brings about progression instead of regression.

The only system there is, is deception. One face for the average Joe-to keep his hopes up, that this democracy is wonderful- and another for buddies, who are complicit in the looting of oil, diamonds and other valuable, natural resources, meanwhile giving each other expensive gifts of sashes and bling bling chains.

There's an inner circle who work together and have the same beliefs, the same system. They do not care about us one bit.

 

[Muezzin]

Thread starter has been recently active but not responded to this thread.

You wouldn't be using a facade in order to stir the pot (of Ragu), would you? You nut, you.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

would you?

Oh wouldn't he?

Curious. Very curious.

 

[GuestFellow]

It's funny how we are all getting so jumpy when the topic creator is like meh whatever LOL. :/

 

[Big Ragu]

It just annoys me when Muslims living in the western world want to impose Shariah law on the masses when Shariah law has
not worked itself in Muslim majority countries. If Shariah has failed in Muslim countries then it is bound to fail in Non-Muslim
countries. Also I believe that when in Rome do as the Romans, Surely the Muslims in the Western World should attempt to
embrace rather than change the culture and society that has adopted them?

In the UK muslims have Ghetto areas like Dewsbury, Its like something from Afghanistan, Its utterly, utterly run down, pot holed
roads, rubbish on the streets, Burkha clad woman, Azan from towers, etc

 

[IslamicRevival]

It just annoys me when Muslims living in the western world want to impose Shariah law on the masses when Shariah law has
not worked itself in Muslim majority countries. If Shariah has failed in Muslim countries then it is bound to fail in Non-Muslim
countries. Also I believe that when in Rome do as the Romans, Surely the Muslims in the Western World should attempt to
embrace rather than change the culture and society that has adopted them?

In the UK muslims have Ghetto areas like Dewsbury, Its like something from Afghanistan, Its utterly, utterly run down, pot holed
roads, rubbish on the streets, Burkha clad woman, Azan from towers, etc

You need to wash your mouth out Ragu. You slander and accuse many Muslims of being hypocrites in your opening post by making sweeping generalisations which hold no water and now you have the audacity to attack the law of Allah by lying and claiming its failed when it never has and never will?

You should look closer to home before branding others as hypocrites

 

[جوري]

Ragu is an undereducated Christian missionary - you stay on a forum long enough and you see them a dime a dozen come and go. Must be irritating after they spend a fortune debarring others from true guidance, invading and pillaging countries with their 'uber sophisticated' machines still are defeated and withdraw their troops in utter humiliation and for naught to see their countries bankrupt, their religion a joke and revolt after revolt bringing exactly that which they despise 'Islamists'.
So in fact it's marvelous to see the likes of ragu seething in their rage - sure does the heart good

 

[aamirsaab]

It just annoys me when Muslims living in the western world want to impose Shariah law on the masses when Shariah law has
not worked itself in Muslim majority countries. If Shariah has failed in Muslim countries then it is bound to fail in Non-Muslim
countries. Also I believe that when in Rome do as the Romans, Surely the Muslims in the Western World should attempt to
embrace rather than change the culture and society that has adopted them?

In the UK muslims have Ghetto areas like Dewsbury, Its like something from Afghanistan, Its utterly, utterly run down, pot holed
roads, rubbish on the streets, Burkha clad woman, Azan from towers, etc

What happened to you man? Seriously, something deeply horrible and scarring must have occured in your life for you to be constantly acting in such a self hating manner. As a brother and fellow human being, I sincerely advise you to seek some sort of counselling.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

It just annoys me when Muslims living in the western world want to impose Shariah law on the masses when Shariah law has
not worked itself in Muslim majority countries. If Shariah has failed in Muslim countries then it is bound to fail in Non-Muslim
countries. Also I believe that when in Rome do as the Romans, Surely the Muslims in the Western World should attempt to
embrace rather than change the culture and society that has adopted them?

In the UK muslims have Ghetto areas like Dewsbury, Its like something from Afghanistan, Its utterly, utterly run down, pot holed
roads, rubbish on the streets, Burkha clad woman, Azan from towers, etc

You're not Muslim are you? You're just here to rant some ignorant garbage.

Places like the utterly run-down, pot-holed Dewsbury is a town in your own home country: the United Kingdom. That's not a Shari'ah-ran place.

 

[Big Ragu]

I was born into a Muslim family of Pakistani origins in the UK, I have seen the very, very negative side of Islam and its affect on woman and children and the economic misery it causes. Since someone has said that Shariah is perfect can you please tell me where in the world it has been successfully implemented and where it works? It has failed in Saudi Arabia, It has failed in Iran, It has failed in Pakistan.

I have lost all faith in Islam, I came here, because I wanted some answers to questions I was always fearful to ask in real life because I would be threatened and intimated by foaming at the mouth mullahs.

 

['Abd-al Latif]

I was born into a Muslim family of Pakistani origins in the UK, I have seen the very, very negative side of Islam and its affect on woman and children and the economic misery it causes. Since someone has said that Shariah is perfect can you please tell me where in the world it has been successfully implemented and where it works? It has failed in Saudi Arabia, It has failed in Iran, It has failed in Pakistan.

I have lost all faith in Islam, I came here, because I wanted some answers to questions I was always fearful to ask in real life because I would be threatened and intimated by foaming at the mouth mullahs.

The first thing you have to do is to stop being so accusative. If you behave in a hostile manner then you'll only receive hostile responses.

First and foremost, what you've probably been witnessing are old uncles and aunties compelling traditional practices upon themselves and their families and then calling it Islam. There is a big difference between what a lot of people do and what Islam actually is.

Secondly, to go and blame Islam and being hostile towards it isn't going to get you anywhere. If you have questions that you'd like answered then we'll answer them if we are able to but you need to make your approach a little more appropriate. I'll tell you from the here: the problem is not with Islam, it never has been. The problem is with the people.

 

[Big Ragu]

The first thing you have to do is to stop being so accusative. If you behave in a hostile manner then you'll only receive hostile responses.

First and foremost, what you've probably been witnessing are old uncles and aunties compelling traditional practices upon themselves and their families and then calling it Islam. There is a big difference between what a lot of people do and what Islam actually is.

Secondly, to go and blame Islam and being hostile towards it isn't going to get you anywhere. If you have questions that you'd like answered then we'll answer them if we are able to but you need to stop the ranting and making such unfounded accusations.

Do you have Skype? if so message me and I will call you there, then there will be no doubt that I am from Pakistani descent and from Muslim background

 

['Abd-al Latif]

Do you have Skype? if so message me and I will call you there, then there will be no doubt that I am from Pakistani descent and from Muslim background

I'm sorry I don't exchange personal details. Ask whatever you need to, just don't be so aggressive.

 

[Big Ragu]

Since someone has said that Shariah is perfect can you please tell me where in the world it has been successfully implemented and where it works?

 

['Abd-al Latif]

Since someone has said that Shariah is perfect can you please tell me where in the world it has been successfully implemented and where it works?

It's not been implemented fully anywhere in the past 100 years. But people want Shariah, why do you think there are all these protests in the Arab world?

Having said that, one does not need human experience as proof to say that Shari'ah works. Islam was revealed by the Creator of the heavens and the earth so it is free from the influences of human desires and from the limitations of a human being. This is what makes it perfect: it is from the One who Created all that exists and contains the perfect guidelines for our success in this life and the next.

 

[Urban Turban]

Ragu is an undereducated Christian missionary - you stay on a forum long enough and you see them a dime a dozen come and go. Must be irritating after they spend a fortune debarring others from true guidance, invading and pillaging countries with their 'uber sophisticated' machines still are defeated and withdraw their troops in utter humiliation and for naught to see their countries bankrupt, their religion a joke and revolt after revolt bringing exactly that which they despise 'Islamists'.
So in fact it's marvelous to see the likes of ragu seething in their rage - sure does the heart good

I think so too..

 

[IslamicRevival]

I was born into a Muslim family of Pakistani origins in the UK, I have seen the very, very negative side of Islam and its affect on woman and children and the economic misery it causes. Since someone has said that Shariah is perfect can you please tell me where in the world it has been successfully implemented and where it works? It has failed in Saudi Arabia, It has failed in Iran, It has failed in Pakistan.

I have lost all faith in Islam, I came here, because I wanted some answers to questions I was always fearful to ask in real life because I would be threatened and intimated by foaming at the mouth mullahs.

You shouldn't judge Islam by the actions of Muslims today, rather judge Islam based on the beautiful character of our Nabi (Infinite peace and blessings be upon him), THE best of mankind and our ultimate role model.

Shariah law is divine guidance for mankind from our creator so it can never fail when implemented correctly. Saudi Arabi, Iran and Pakistan are majority Muslim countries but they do not follow Shariah law in its absolute entirety and no country has for decades.

Its incredibly sad you've lost faith but i think its due to your own lack of understanding that you find yourself in this position. Cut out the negativity by not allowing past experiences to cloud your judgement, learn your deen from learned Scholars and maybe you'll see the light Inshaa Allah.

I sincerely pray you find your way.

 

[جوري]

Do you have Skype? if so message me and I will call you there, then there will be no doubt that I am from Pakistani descent and from Muslim background

You said Pakistanis or 'Asians' were retards on the other thread- should we take that to apply to you as well? I think it is the only natural conclusion given the nature of your simpleton type questions and your desire to draw satisfaction out of overly simplistic conclusions!

best,

 

[جوري]

Places like the utterly run-down, pot-holed Dewsbury is a town in your own home country:

Isn't that indeed a reflection on the UK? The first thought that came to mind was how they must discriminate against Muslims by picking up garbage everywhere, as is the case in every country but neglecting Muslim populated areas!
He talks about Burkas the way folks should speak of prostitution- you got to shrug your shoulders in amusement over that one!

 

[Big Ragu]

You said Pakistanis or 'Asians' were retards on the other thread- should we take that to apply to you as well? I think it is the only natural conclusion given the nature of your simpleton type questions and your desire to draw satisfaction out of overly simplistic conclusions!

best,

The majority of Pakistani Muslims in the UK marry their first cousins and often their children then continue to marry their first cousin, the end result is the birth defects, heart problems, diabetes amongst other problems. I bet if you know any Pakistanis then some of them will have heart problems, diabetes, kidney failure etc.