The Insanity of Christian Zionism

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Just a Guy said:
What I am about to say will probably disappoint and anger a lot of you, but so be it.

What makes the Jews so special? Why did God not choose the Irish or the Germans (as they themselves believed in WW2)? There are parts of Christianity that seem racist to me when the Bible talks about "God's chosen people". I've never really thought about it, but just accepted that it was so. Now though, I have to wonder.

There are some of us Westerners that are not Islamophobic, but also don't give a crap one way or the other about the Jews vs. Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims. I don't care either way who has control over what land. That has no bearing on whether or not I will find inner peace in my own life. I just want to be happy, and that happiness has no bearing on who controls the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
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Have to go along with the essential points of your post. I have not one ounce of desire to support Israel versus the Palestinians, and I have long been critical of the one sided, unbalanced policies of the US in the Middle East. The two sides need to find a way to live together as good neighbors; unfortunately to date neither seems to have any intention of doing so.
 
joedawun said:
Have to go along with the essential points of your post. I have not one ounce of desire to support Israel versus the Palestinians, and I have long been critical of the one sided, unbalanced policies of the US in the Middle East. The two sides need to find a way to live together as good neighbors; unfortunately to date neither seems to have any intention of doing so.
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I am glad to see that I am not the only one with a neutral stance.

Unfortunately I don't think there will ever be peace in the Middle East. I'd like to see it, but I don't think it will ever happen.
 
Woodrow said:
David Duke is a Racist and a Religious bigot. A very prejudiced man who hates anybody who is not a white, English speaking follower of his brand of Christianity. Because he hates Jews does not make him a friend of Islam.
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Hello Woodrow,

I think that you loo at it from a bad perspective. The truth is that David Duke isnt from my kindergarten too, he's american and protestant, he believes in democracy, I'm european and catholic, also monarchist. There are many things that I disagree with him. But nowadays it is not most important. Also you should look at it from a geopolitical point of view. He's not a friend of Islam, but he criticize the spheres of american politics that make so much mess in Middle East. Probably you dont see that the same spheres make mess also in Europe, in Canada, in USA.

Its same like with leftists - they are aganst the colonization of Palestine by Jews, but on the other hand they support the colonization of Europe.

Although that I dont agree with all with David Duke he helped me to notice many things in nowadays America. Many bad things that come from USA dont come from the american - protestant source. Hollywood, MTV, ACLU, Southern Poverty Law Centre, ADL of B'nai B'rith its all kosher . Its not christian, not european nor american. Feminists, abortion movement same. There are things where wise westerners and muslims can agree. Because the thing is that we all, Americans, Germans, Italians, Pakistanis, Egyptians and Algerians, are in a circle called New World Order. Those that are called zionists not only occupy parts of Palestine, but also Washington, Warsaw, London. Almost every western country has its own New York Times, ACLU, ADL, AIPAC, MTV.

Of course we can always say - Nah, he's a racist, or on the other hand - No! isnt he a radical muslim? But this leads to nothing, we will keep in same swamp as now.

How Nations Die -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTLB3wFM9nU

How Zionists Divide and Conquer -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJjSzXkm55o
 
Muezzin said:
You know he probably would have killed you and your entire family, too? Given that you're probably non-white and all.
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He'd shove Jew symphatizers into the gas chamber should he come back from the dead long before he'd think of putting someone else

blablaba , go ahead. Blow off steam, call me an "ant-semite" .The word has become a magic wand in the hands of zionist which bring entire world into their knees with the mere threat of labelling the as such .

SubhanAllah, i wont be suprised if you call Allah(SWT) as "Anti-semite" for turning the Jews into pigs for distorting of [others'] words, calf-worshiping , prophet-murdering and prophecy-denials and also Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) as an "anti-semite". for killings Jews who broke their covenant and betrayed the muslims by supporting Quraysh . They are without a doubt the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs
 
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OK, I have a question. I know that most Muslims are not actually Arabs, but are Arabs considered Semites too?
 
Airforce said:
He'd shove Jew symphatizers into the gas chamber should he come back from the dead long before he'd think of putting someone else

blablaba , go ahead. Blow off steam, call me an "ant-semite" .The word has become a magic wand in the hands of zionist which bring entire world into their knees with the mere threat of labelling the as such .

SubhanAllah, i wont be suprised if you call Allah(SWT) as "Anti-semite" for turning the Jews into pigs for distorting of [others'] words, calf-worshiping , prophet-murdering and prophecy-denials and also Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) as an "anti-semite". for killings Jews who broke their covenant and betrayed the muslims by supporting Quraysh . They are without a doubt the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs
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I don't argue against much evil committed by Jews then and now, however Allah swt does tell us in the noble Quran that there are factions of them that are righteous:

The Heights [7:159]

وَمِن قَوْمِ مُوسَىٰٓ أُمَّةٌۭ يَهْدُونَ بِٱلْحَقِّ وَبِهِۦ يَعْدِلُونَ

Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth.



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Just a Guy said:
What I am about to say will probably disappoint and anger a lot of you, but so be it.

What makes the Jews so special? Why did God not choose the Irish or the Germans (as they themselves believed in WW2)? There are parts of Christianity that seem racist to me when the Bible talks about "God's chosen people". I've never really thought about it, but just accepted that it was so. Now though, I have to wonder.

There are some of us Westerners that are not Islamophobic, but also don't give a crap one way or the other about the Jews vs. Palestinians/Arabs/Muslims. I don't care either way who has control over what land. That has no bearing on whether or not I will find inner peace in my own life. I just want to be happy, and that happiness has no bearing on who controls the West Bank and the Gaza Strip.
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Allah blessed the children of israel of the past, the current jews are not the same people.

He choosing them over others was His own will, it does not mean that they were better than other people, just more blessed.
 
Airforce said:
He'd shove Jew symphatizers into the gas chamber should he come back from the dead long before he'd think of putting someone else
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If you say so.

blablaba , go ahead. Blow off steam, call me an "ant-semite" .The word has become a magic wand in the hands of zionist which bring entire world into their knees with the mere threat of labelling the as such .
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Seems you are the only one labelling here. Anyway, why would I label you so? I'm simply trying to show you that you need to choose the type of person you support more carefully.

SubhanAllah, i wont be suprised if you call Allah(SWT) as "Anti-semite" for turning the Jews into pigs for distorting of [others'] words, calf-worshiping , prophet-murdering and prophecy-denials and also Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) as an "anti-semite". for killings Jews who broke their covenant and betrayed the muslims by supporting Quraysh .
They are without a doubt the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs
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And for this belief, you would support the actions of a genocidal white supremacist?
 
I just want to point out what most probably know already- not all Christians are Zionists. It seems to be mainly a phenomenon among some American Protestants. Orthodox Christians tend to be very critical of the state of Israel. What many "Christian Zionists" ignore is that Arab Christians are equally oppressed under the Zionist state.
 
Airforce said:
He'd shove Jew symphatizers into the gas chamber should he come back from the dead long before he'd think of putting someone else

blablaba , go ahead. Blow off steam, call me an "ant-semite" .The word has become a magic wand in the hands of zionist which bring entire world into their knees with the mere threat of labelling the as such .

SubhanAllah, i wont be suprised if you call Allah(SWT) as "Anti-semite" for turning the Jews into pigs for distorting of [others'] words, calf-worshiping , prophet-murdering and prophecy-denials and also Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) as an "anti-semite". for killings Jews who broke their covenant and betrayed the muslims by supporting Quraysh . They are without a doubt the scum of the human race, the rats of the world, the violators of pacts and agreements, the murderers of the prophets, and the offspring of apes and pigs
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Hitler was raised by ''zionist/masons'' themselves. Why? The Ww2 was a big sacrifice ritual , but also a excuse to place east-european jews in palestine and give them a country. If you don't know, this plan was already engineered in 1917. the balfour-declaration, made by the rich zionist Rothchild family.

They needed to find an excuse for the creation of israel so the people here in the west would accept it. And that was WW2, they felt symphatized with the jews (because of their sufferings). This made in 1917 and prepared since then, first they needed to destroy the khalifah and then create ''israel''. This happened with the help of the british.

Now Zionism is a ideology made in the 19th century. Not by human but shaytaan. (Zionists are the flock of Satan but will also follow dajjal in the future). And the ideology convinced many jews to follow it. (Especially when israel was created and because of indoctrination). This is the sad part and that's why almost all the jews will be killed in the end times, since they'll follow the false messiah. Don't call me ''The arrivals'' freak. Read protocols of the elders of Zion. Also the series Solomons Temple will make it clear .

Also not all jews are bad see this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oeB3QhX2RI

the arrivals will only make you confused,

We live in times of massive deception right now. Help your imaan and stay out of the fitnah Insha'Allah. Be aware brothers and sisters ;)

Salaam
 
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Tragic Typos said:
Salaam,

Is there evidence for this?


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Anti-defemation league or ADL. Is a zionist movement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWV5K0yzGwU also the nazi scandal in it. Also through the Skull&bones society, the father of bush with help of rockefeller family gave nazis war-material. But i don't have proof to show that tough...

Suprising eh? Zionist movement who supports nazis. This shows really what politics are today= games
 
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Iconodule said:
I just want to point out what most probably know already- not all Christians are Zionists. It seems to be mainly a phenomenon among some American Protestants. Orthodox Christians tend to be very critical of the state of Israel. What many "Christian Zionists" ignore is that Arab Christians are equally oppressed under the Zionist state.
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One of the things that I dig about contemporary Orthodox Christianity is that you haven't abandoned supersessionism out of political correctness, like pretty much all other Christian denominations have.
 
Jedi_Mindset said:
But i don't have proof to show that tough...
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Salaam,

Then you need to do more research. I can make several statements but no one is going to believe me until I present evidence. This evidence may involve pictures, documents from government archives and so on. YouTube videos made by someone that I don't know is not going to convince many people.

If you are interested in America's financing of Nazi Germany, you should read Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Professor Anthony C Sutton. It's available online.
 

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