The “Leader” of the free world!

[aamirsaab]

lol hawk
do u believe every tape u see?
if it shows an afghan jump off a cliff - do u automatically think that all afghans are mindless lemmings?

tell me this hawk
did the video tape of those taliban have subtitles
was there a USA symbol on the back of the cover?
or was it a pirate copy - - haha pirate copy of a fake video - even funnier...

i fear, hawk, that u use ur eyes 2 much
i leave u with this:
how does a blind man know if the person in front of him has a gun in his hand and is about 2 shoot him?
(hint: it aint with his eyes)

 

[kadafi]

Hash you havent seen the videos of the Taliban murdering people, fellow muslims from the norhtern alliance?

Yes the rate of rape went down, because they would marry, rape, divorce...in that order.

An Afghan I met at a masjid I go to told me that.

:teeth:

Fabricatin' accounts -- makes your reference more "trustworty" haha.

The Northern Alliance, a rebel group, known for killin' thousands of innocent people, burnin' homes and commitin' acts of ethnic cleansin'.
In 1996, they massacred 50k Afghanis. Additionaly, they also engaged in to mass-rape and drug-peddlin'. How convient to hire a terrorist-group that it's known to have commited large-scale attrocities -- to fight against the Taliban. Perhaps we should recall the container incident where 3k Afghanis who had surrerend to Northern Alliance were rammed in to truck containers. And then later on, they lined them up and murdered them in cold blood.

 

[aamirsaab]

finally some well deserved back up!
cheers kadafi...but a bit late lol

*gives high five to kadafi* :thumbs_up

 

[Sinner]

In reading some of these post, I can tell that there are few Iraqis or Afghanis in this forum. The truth is that they are glad to see Saddam gone and the Taliban disbanded. They were thrilled to be able to vote recently, many for the first time in their lives. Sure, Iraq is a mess. If it wasn't for the insurgents, billions of reconstruction money would be flowing into the country right now, and the US would be in the process of reducing the number of troops in the country. Also, Iraq would be able to rebuild very quickely with the money from oil sales. It is possible that Iraq today has more oil in the ground then Saudi Arabia. All that oil is worthless if insurgents keep blowing up the pipe lines. The days of the insurgents are numbered however. Majority of Iraqi's went out to vote in spite of death threats. In one village recently, five insurgents were killed by the Iraqis who they threatened to kill for voting. People want freedom. One Iraqi said, when he put his finger in the bottle of ink, he did it as if he was sticking it in the eye of every tyrant who ever lived. I have heard more then one Iraqi say, America didn't need to go searching for WMD's, Saddam and his sons functioned as such against the Iraqi people.

 

[Sinner]

Iraqi villagers kill 5 insurgents

By Middle East correspondent Mark Willacy

The residents of a small Iraqi village have killed five insurgents who had attacked them for voting in last weekend's national elections.

Several other insurgents were also wounded.

The insurgents raided the village of al-Mudhiryah south of Baghdad after warning its inhabitants not to vote in the election.

The villagers fought back, killing five of the insurgents and wounding eight others.

The insurgents' cars were then set alight.

Al-Mudhiryah's tribal sheikh says his people are sick of being threatened by Islamic extremists.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200502/s1295847.htm

Hash, if this story false, or make believe, you would be doing everyone a great public service if you could prove this with facts rather then with an emotional outburst.
This site has shocking pictures of Iraqi children which even most Americans have never seen - http://www.operationiraqichildren.org/OICAction_Pg8.asp
Look at your own risk. Do not say you were not warned in advance.

 

[Sinner]

Sorry the link doesn't work, but it was photos of school children happy to see the American troops who helped rebuild their schools.

Go and look at some pictures of iraqis being abused by US forces in abu ghraib prison etc, sick dogs!

The people responsible for this abuse have been punished. Having said that, what happened in Abu Ghraib was isolated to one cell block, by a few GIs. Most of the prisoners in this prison were not abused. I would also add, compared to what happed to prisoners in Abu Ghraib, when Saddam was in power, what these few GIs did, were disgusting X-rated college pranks in comparision. These prisoners did not lose their lives or any limbs. They were not dis-membered, blinded, skinned alive, slowly killed by dripping acid or thrown into wood-chipping machines.

 

[Sinner]

America is in a no-win situation it seems. We get blamed for putting or keeping despots in power in the Middle East. When a President comes along who says this is wrong and announces that it is time for these thugs to step aside, we are then accused of trying to destroy Islam and the Arab people.

 

[Khattab]

The Glorius Qu'ran sums it up well:

When it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "Why, we only Want to make peace!"

 

[Sinner]

Here is one Arab leader who is beginning to see things in a different light.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/p...RTICLE_ID=43010

Now sees it as catalyst for democracy across Mideast

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
The leader of the Lebanese opposition, a sharp critic of Washington foreign policy, says he's changed his view of the U.S. war in Iraq, seeing it now as a catalyst for democratic change across the Arab world.


Walid Jumblatt

Druze Muslim leader Walid Jumblatt, who is calling for an uprising against Lebanon's Syrian occupiers, is almost sounding like a neoconservative, says Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, who interviewed him in Beirut Monday.

"It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq," Jumblatt told the Post columnist.


"I was cynical about Iraq," Jumblatt said. "But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, 8 million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world."

Jumblatt said this spark of democratic revolt is spreading.

"The Syrian people, the Egyptian people, all say that something is changing," he said. "The Berlin Wall has fallen. We can see it."

In an exclusive interview with WorldNetDaily Monday, Jumblatt blamed the assassination of former Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri on Lebanese security officials backed by Syria.

Jumblatt said Hariri told him in a meeting two weeks ago he felt they both were in danger.

The Druze leader told WND he is calling for an "uprising for independence" demanding Damascus withdraw its nearly 20,000 troops from the country and urging the current pro-Syrian government to step down.

"We ask all in Lebanon to claim independence from Syria peacefully and democratically," said Jumblatt.

Jumblatt, in conjunction with other major figures of the anti-Syrian movement, put out a statement Friday urging the "dismissal of the government, which has no legitimacy, and the formation of a transitional administration to protect the Lebanese people and ensure the immediate withdrawal of the Syrian army from Lebanon to pave the way for holding free and honest legislative elections."

 

[root]

The insurgents as you call them, are freedom fighters. Resistance fighters, and i resent you speaking ill of them. They are supported by all, and that fake story of the village was laughable! No iraqis dispise the resistance fighters. The americans on the other hand are a differnt story. We see them dying every day, and the numbers of US casualties is rising rapidly. The entire world sees images of US bases, envoys and soldiers under fire from groups of resistance fighters, the raqi children pelting them with stones and screaming abuse, and the standard routine nearly every day from the news channels, '2 more US solderis killed, 3 US marines killed'. Even today 3 US soldoers were kiled, ALLAHU AKBAR. So the resistance days are not numbered, the invading dogs the US and their croneis are numbered.

I had a real ball reading this one for two reasons:

1. the people who often talk about the spilling of US blood are often the most remote from where they can actually do it.

2. They need to us as USA hosted server in order to have the right to say it in the first place.

You may Live in England, but you live as a minority, not because of your race or religion but because your view is just not supported in England.

 

[Brother_Mujahid]

You may Live in England, but you live as a minority, not because of your race or religion but because your view is just not supported in England.

actually quite a big portion of the public do not wish for the british or think they should be participating in the war in iraq, and concequently want the british soldiers out of iraq.

 

[root]

actually quite a big portion of the public do not wish for the british or think they should be participating in the war in iraq,

Your right, we call the them Loud Minority!

 

[Sinner]

I will just remind the people on this forum, that the Iraqi people have just elected people into office who have no love for the insurgency.

 

[Khattab]

Well the puppet goverment wont really have much of a say, these people are fighting against the oppressors and invaders and the more of these soldiers that are killed the better until they leave Iraq and go home.

 

[root]

Well the puppet goverment wont really have much of a say, these people are fighting against the oppressors and invaders and the more of these soldiers that are killed the better until they leave Iraq and go home.

A "Minority" population running a totality country falls, the now free "Majority" vote in who they want for themselves. The "Majority" vote in a new Government, this Government is a Puppet?

Go figure........

 

[Khattab]

These people are just a front for America and the bush administration, there wont be peace in Iraq and I will give this goverment 2 years before if falls, you go figure that................

 

[root]

These mujahideen fighting in iraq will destroy the devil forces

Where was the Mujahideen when Saddam was persecuted and killed thousands of Muslims..... I often wonder. Though I wonder why they don't help the Kurds after Saddam gassed em either.

Amir, may I ask. Who is that rabble looking group of people in your Avata\Pic?

Root

 

[Khattab]

Where was the Mujahideen when Saddam was persecuted and killed thousands of Muslims..... I often wonder. Though I wonder why they don't help the Kurds after Saddam gassed em either.

Amir, may I ask. Who is that rabble looking group of people in your Avata\Pic?

Root

Root it is the Mujahideen army who fought against Russia when they invaded Afghanistan

 

[root]

I agree with the tight leash, such problems can be controlled by a ruthless minority and a strict religion you just need to look at Medieval Europe to see this. Not only is it a shame that for Iraq, we don't have to go back in time.

Germany shortly after the Second World War was a majority elected government which had the approval of the US. I would not call this a Puppet state!

I know they thought in Russia, they did in Bosnia and they fight in The Pakistan\India border for years and a load of other places to. But they don't go to the aid of oppressed muslims by oppressing muslims. (Unless I am wrong)!

 

[Genius]

Root it is the Mujahideen army who fought against Russia when they invaded Afghanistan

The soldiers in your avatar are from the 7th Muslim division of the Bosnian army based in Zenica, they were known for their religous zeal, they did not fight in afghanistan, though it has been noted that their were arabs and other foriegners amongst their ranks who served in Afghanistan.