The "Lions" kill dozens in Iraq

[Geronimo]

If she wants to play by those rules so be it. Let's place the age at let's say 13. I would implement that all males 13 and older would be shot on site because by not reporting these"freedom fighters" obviously they are collaborating them. I would also implement that no body shall be burried instead they will be slathered in pig fat and burned on the spot. Anyone that tries to stop this action would meet the same fate male or female because they will then cease to be innocent civilians. I mean this is war isn't it?

 

[therebbe]

If she wants to play by those rules so be it. Let's place the age at let's say 13. I would implement that all males 13 and older would be shot on site because by not reporting these"freedom fighters" obviously they are collaborating them. I would also implement that no body shall be burried instead they will be slathered in pig fat and burned on the spot. Anyone that tries to stop this action would meet the same fate male or female because they will then cease to be innocent civilians. I mean this is war isn't it?

She is loading her shot gun as we speak. :giggling:

 

[Keltoi]

It's just garbage founded in nothing but one person's sick version of reality. I shouldn't even have responded to it, but I was bored at the time.

 

[therebbe]

Has nothing to do with romance... It's not like I gave my heart on a silver platter to Zarqawi. He had to earn that. He did.

How did Zarqawi earn your 'heart'? Did he earn your heart after he blew up a wedding in Jordan where he killed 30 people celebrating there marriage?

Maybe after you saw the pictures of the babies that he killed on the news, that is what won him your "heart"...

Do you call it a "heart"?

 

[Keltoi]

How did Zarqawi earn your 'heart'? Did he earn your heart after he blew up a wedding in Jordan where he killed 30 people celebrating there marriage?

Maybe after you saw the pictures of the babies that he killed on the news, that is what won him your "heart"...

Do you call it a "heart"?

After I saw that comment I suddenly lost interest in anything else the poster had to say.

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

By your sickening 'rules of war' that means that all civilians that are not women and children are legal targets.

So by your disgusting theory American has the right to run around and kill any Iraq male civilian and chop his head off if they help the insurgents?

Absolutly barbaric and you have made me sick to my stomach at the thought of this.

Dear Kettle,

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah!

The Pot

 

[therebbe]

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah!

Great input.



Ninth Scribe said and then minutes after edited it out:

ETA: Door swings BOTH ways pal. It isn't like these people weren't provoked, but that's not what they teach the cattle here.

So because they were "provoked" they know under your theory on war have the right to kill any civilian who aids America because "thats war"? If the door truly "swings both ways" then you would have no objection to American soldiers killing civilians who aided the insurgency because "thats war" correct?

Since the door "swings both ways" I assume you agree that America than had the right to invade Afghanistan I mean they were "provoked" were they not? Notice I am using your own theories here...

Let me guess, with all your theories of how innocent people are all fair game because "its war" when are will you be receiving your Nobel peace prize? If every country implemented your theories of what war is into there own policy we would probably see genocides and massacres unknown to anyone in the history of this earth.

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

Iraqis have to act smart be like hezbollaah unity is number 1 and allah will help them to victory inshallaah. All the people that commits sectarian violence are criminals.

Well, the way I understood it, the Shia in Iraq were buying the whole government thing because a Shiite was in office. The stategy, if it could be called that, was to demonstrate to the Shiite armies that America was still pulling all the strings. So Zarqawi engaged them, and the American troops intervened. In so doing, the point was proven: It didn't actually make a difference that a Shiite was in office... he has no real power. They may have killed Zarqawi, but the point was still made. I'm pretty sure Al Sadr, who wasn't fond on the occupation from the start, can see that now.

Ninth Scribe

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

Great input.



Ninth Scribe said and then minutes after edited it out:


So because they were "provoked" they know under your theory on war have the right to kill any civilian who aids America because "thats war"? If the door truly "swings both ways" then you would have no objection to American soldiers killing civilians who aided the insurgency because "thats war" correct?

Since the door "swings both ways" I assume you agree that America than had the right to invade Afghanistan I mean they were "provoked" were they not? Notice I am using your own theories here...

Let me guess, with all your theories of how innocent people are all fair game because "its war" when are will you be receiving your Nobel peace prize? If every country implemented your theories of what war is into there own policy we would probably see genocides and massacres unknown to anyone in the history of this earth.

Wow, stalking the thread? Impressed! No, the U.S. doesn't have the right to rule the whole world just because it has a hard-on for Al Qaeda... but that's what Bush is trying to do and he'll bring the whole of the western world into this war, kicking and screaming, to get his way. None of these men give a rat's behind about the poor civilians. They never have. If you can't deal with that dose of reality - too bad, that's the way this world has ALWAYS been!

I'm not out to win a prize... a cookie... or a rubber biscuit.

Ninth Scribe

 

[therebbe]

Wow, stalking the thread? Impressed!

Thank you! I get an E-mail everytime someone posts in this thread and I rush over here to see if it was you posting your latest theories on how the innocent civilians in war are all "fair game" according to your theories.

No, the U.S. doesn't have the right to rule the whole world just because it has a hard-on for Al Qaeda...

The US does not have the right to rule the whole world...

Just like Al-Queda has no right to crash airplanes into buildings and kill innocent...

Just like Saddam has no right to gas thousands upon thousands of Kurds and then try to cover up there remains because he feels like it...

None of these men give a rat's behind about the poor civilians.

And Zarqawi your "hero" who won your "heart" cares about the poor civilians when he blows up a wedding that kills 30 people including babies? Disgusting.

Each post you make only builds up the list of contradictions your 'theories' have.

 

[nimrod]

Geeze, Ninth Scribe, I can’t tell if you are parroting the Israeli or Hezbollah mantra on this thread.

Ninth Scribe " this is war... and war is ugly and poor civilians are always the ones who pay the price because they can't move themselves from the battle-ground. I didn't get that at first. I would have thought they all would leave because that's what I would do. But that didn't happen in Iraq. It didn't happen in New Orleans - even when they had three days notice to get the hell out".


Thanks
Nimrod

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

Geeze, Ninth Scribe, I can’t tell if you are parroting the Israeli or Hezbollah mantra on this thread.

Ninth Scribe " this is war... and war is ugly and poor civilians are always the ones who pay the price because they can't move themselves from the battle-ground. I didn't get that at first. I would have thought they all would leave because that's what I would do. But that didn't happen in Iraq. It didn't happen in New Orleans - even when they had three days notice to get the hell out".


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Nimrod

Recitation is of history. Hezbollah, Israel, Iraq, etc... these are only new names and faces. The underlying concept and the strategies are no different.

All mankind has taught me is that it repeats it's history every so often. The arm hates the finger and the head hates the leg. Nothing new, nothing interesting... no enlightenment to be found here. Makes me wonder why I bothered to come here in the first place.

Even the 'holier-than-thou' attitudes I come across on occassion are predictable. Yes, yes, yes, war is wrong... it's so wrong in fact it's become the most popular sport on the planet. Yawn. Spare me. All those who complain here, have yet to produce a single alterative... that works. Save your breath on me... it won't get anyone anywhere.

Ninth Scribe

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

Killed or be killed.

Where did you learn your ever so deep philosophys. The school of Cave Men and Cave Women?

You can say that while eating the lives of others? This isn't heaven where we get and give at the same rate, like the speed of light. This is a different place and as much as you might pretend that dinner of your's didn't cost a life... it's just a fancy deception. You should turn your light on and have a good look at the world your standing in... you'll never make it neat, painless and perfect. It wasn't even designed for that.

Ninth Scribe

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

The US does not have the right to rule the whole world...

Just like Al-Queda has no right to crash airplanes into buildings and kill innocent...

Just like Saddam has no right to gas thousands upon thousands of Kurds and then try to cover up there remains because he feels like it...[/SIZE]

And Zarqawi your "hero" who won your "heart" cares about the poor civilians when he blows up a wedding that kills 30 people including babies? Disgusting. Each post you make only builds up the list of contradictions your 'theories' have.

Conveniently leaving Israel out of the mix here? Gee, there's a shock! So what was their excuse for the innocents they slaughtered for the sake of some old rocks and dirt? Or is Avodah Zarah legal now?

Zarqawi apologized for the incident in Jordan.

America apologized for the incident in Pakistan.

Maliki has proven that since his family was threatened, he can act exactly the same way Saddam did.

Israel hasn't made a single apology to any of the Palestinian men, women and children it's destroyed for it's addiction to old dirt... and that was the INCIDENT that triggered all this happy-joy we see today. You want to herald world peace? You want heaven on earth? Than GIVE at the same rate you TAKE. Otherwise, your words are a waste of breath and all the red heifers on the planet won't change that. You're not better than Zarqawi... you're just different!

Ninth Scribe

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

Let's place the age at let's say 13. I would implement that all males 13 and older would be shot on site because by not reporting these "freedom fighters" obviously they are collaborating them. I would also implement that no body shall be burried instead they will be slathered in pig fat and burned on the spot.

As I reminded you on the Low Blow thread, the Catholic church has been very busy doing that already - for no reason at all - to children under the age of 13! The man responsible would have been prosecuted, but the pope took him out of our legal reach. That was the price those kids paid for believing that the church was a holy respite from this evil world.

I could go all the way down the list too... but I'm pretty sure I've made my point crystal clear. Point the finger all you want... but there is always another who can point their finger at you. Always.

Ninth Scribe

 

[ManchesterFolk]

Conveniently leaving Israel out of the mix here? Gee, there's a shock! So what was their excuse for the innocents they slaughtered for the sake of some old rocks and dirt? Or is Avodah Zarah legal now?

What is the excuse all the Muslim extremists have for slaughtering people for the sake of old rocks and dirt. Your pointless comparisons and your as usual heartless comments shouldn't open anyones eyes. I think I will name you 'Evil'... Your theory: Kill boys and girls because its war... My theory: Trying and creaty peace and stabability.

Israel hasn't made a single apology

Does it feel good to lie? Israel has apologized so like your hero mass murderer Zarqawi they should be forgiven correct? Please!

addiction to old dirt...

Addiction for old dirt? Have seen the Middle East. Tell me the number of square miles Muslim countries have and then compare it to Jewish countries in the region. Who has the addiction for 'old dirt again'?

I'm pretty sure I've made my point crystal clear.

Yes you have made your point. You believe Murder is okay... You justify the serial killers, the rapists, the guilty because 'thats war'...

You have made no point. All I wonder is if you have a soul.

Otherwise, your words are a waste of breath

A waste of breath? Your talking! Hahahahaha! Funny!

You're not better than Zarqawi... you're just different!

No better than Zarqawi? Are you kidding? Your comapring someone to mass murderer.

At least he did not 'give his heart' to a mass murderer.

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

Above comments...

I was very upset the other day because I've been blessed/cursed with excellent vision and can see things coming before most people, but I can't do anything about it, which is frustrating, so I participated in the cycle we all seem to be so fond of these days (finger pointing back and forth to make arguments go around in circles). Allow me to simplify my point.

To end all this BS once and for all will take ROUND THE TABLE AMNESTY!

No picking and chosing. For every horror tale you can produce, your opponents can match you, and so on, and so on, and so on, all around the table. So, to me, the loss of innocent life is a shared curse that everyone is guilty of.

As for Zarqawi, if you took away all of his deeds, both good and bad, he's a brilliant soul. He re-acted to the actions of others, by what he saw and what he learned here. He had an incredible force of will... and he was a fearless lion! I doubt we'd be a good match, since I'm more of an eagle than a lion (would never tolerate my field of vision being pigeon-holed), but I still admire him for both his courage and conviction. I'm pretty sure he'll recover from this world.

You seem to feel that these lions are psychotic. To me though, it seems amusing that Americans condemn the suicide missions, while watching movies like Independence Day - cheering on the old drunk who becomes the hero and saves the day. What's the difference?

So I sit here and listen to all the different sides say the same thing. I'm sorry but I don't agree that the Lions in Iraq are the only cause of the problem any more than I believe Zarqawi was... because none of them fired a single shot off until after the invasion!

You don't blame a war on it's... soldiers! Every one of these soldiers (all sides) followed orders. American soldiers are testifying that they were ordered to kill all Iraqi males that were combat age. I mean, I could go on, because I have more records than you do... but it would just go around in circles like some twisted version of the Red Sox / Yankees rivalry... goes nowhere.

Ninth Scribe

 

[therebbe]

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I'm sorry but I don't agree that the Lions in Iraq are the only cause of the problem any more than I believe Zarqawi was...

But you don't believe he is a part of the problem. You proclaimed in an early post that he "won your heart"... and he apologized after he blew up a Muslimwedding in Jordan killing 30, so he is good again. In your mind, I assume American soldiers can just rape an Iraqi and then say sorry and there are forgiven like Zarqawi. Your opinion not mine.

You seem to feel that these lions are psychotic. To me though, it seems amusing that Americans condemn the suicide missions, while watching movies like Independence Day - cheering on the old drunk who becomes the hero and saves the day. What's the difference?

What's the difference? Are you seriously asking that?

Just think for a second. The movie "Independance Day" is a MOVIE. It is not real! The Lions are real! There suicide attacks kill innocent people. Your comparing suicide attacks that end innocent civilians lives with a fiction movie about aliens? I guess only the most enlightened minds of our era decide to compare real life situations that are killing people to fiction movies and then try to justify what there doing by refering to a Fiction movie.

As for Zarqawi, if you took away all of his deeds, both good and bad, he's a brilliant soul. He re-acted to the actions of others, by what he saw and what he learned here. He had an incredible force of will... and he was a fearless lion!

Just sickening. When Zarqawi blew up a wedding killing babies and newly weds in Jordan how was he as you say "re-acting to thr actions of others"... Was he re-acting to them eating cake? What was the justification for that. But since he said "sorry" you forgive him right? Absolutly sickening on your part. +o(

 

[Keltoi]

Unbelievable....

 

[Ninth_Scribe]

The movie "Independance Day" is a MOVIE. It is not real! The Lions are real!

Excuse me, but it's not my fault so many American people could relate to the character of the rowdy old drunk who saved the day... and your argument over reality shatters when it's held up to things like... propaganda! Real or imagined, if people can RELATE - the point is made and it stands out. You're just pissed off because it was a valid point. Or do you honestly believe that because war is written in fiction, it can't possily exist in reality - you're too funny!

When Zarqawi blew up a wedding killing babies and newly weds in Jordan...

Ah, back to the finger pointing. Nice kick off to Armegheddon, lol. In your perverted mind, No one but Zarqawi has done this... or maybe you're trying to say the Jews had better reasons to do it?

If I had to condemn anyone, I'd have to condemn you all.

Ninth Scribe